Finally, a website for people who are overweight that is direct and to the point

First page was lol, second page was lame and serious.
 
You're not my thyroid Stern, you're not my thyroid!
 
6 eggs and 6 slices of bacon is only 800 calories? I need to start eating more eggs and more bacon.
 
This is good for fat lazy people, but I know plenty of fat people that actually do not have time to work out, due to working 80 hours a week, and other things, like kids, or school + work, and family issues. But, I guess these people are smart enough to understand that this site doesn't apply to them.
 
I laughed, I cried, I lost 15 pounds! A+++ would visit again
 
McGooTheWise said:
This is good for fat lazy people, but I know plenty of fat people that actually do not have time to work out, due to working 80 hours a week, and other things, like kids, or school + work, and family issues. But, I guess these people are smart enough to understand that this site doesn't apply to them.
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Yes, it does. Those people need to eat less. As long as you don't go over 2,000 calories a day you'll be skinny.
 
We aren't talking about people that are a few pounds overweight and carry a little chub. We are talking about fat people. And the reason they are fat is that they eat too much. Simple as that. And I'm no shining example of someone that is healthly, I'm just not gonna lie to myself about it.
 
That was very amusing.

Seriously, I cant imagine being as fat as some of the people in those pictures. I'm not the fittest person in the world, but I eat fairly well and try to exercise on occasion. Imagining having trouble just getting out of bed or leaving the house is incentive enough to stay healthy.
 
There's some truth in both sides of the story. Some people are naturally predisposed to be fat, some to be skinny, and others to be muscle-bound. A naturally skinny person can generally eat like a horse and never put on any weight, and equally will find it extremely difficult to gain muscle. Same principle applies for each other body type.

Thus, for some people it is far harder to lose weight or to keep it off than it is for others - many of whom can be incredibly unhealthy yet not overweight.

That doesn't make it a valid excuse. As always with anything in life, the question is, how much are you prepared to sacrifice in order to be successful? It's really irrelevant whether it's easier for someone else, it's about YOU and the lengths YOU are willing to go to to make your life better.

I've been overweight pretty much my whole life, and not because I live a particularly unhealthy lifestyle (although in recent years that's been the case more so), but because I am one of those people who will noticeably put on weight after one night of eating junk food and takes forever to lose it.

However, this year I finally reached the point at which the effort to sort it out became more worthwhile for me than the ease of doing nothing about it. I took up jiu jitsu in January, in which I am now an orange belt and now train three times a week. I couldn't even make it through half a warm up when I first started without needing to sit out for a while. I'm also starting a strength and fitness conditioning class (MMA-style stuff, situps with sandbags, bleep tests, pressups with people on top of you and the like) to really hammer it home although I expect it to be absolute hell, and I've been watching my diet too.

As a consequence, I've lost three stone this year so far. I have three more to go and I'm even more determined than I was when I started, as the goal seems so much more achievable than it ever did before. Also, it's just plain wrong that I'm technically obese and yet I can do 40 pressups.

In summary, it's just a question of how much you want it and the ongoing discipline you have to go the distance. I know that I will have to make intense exercise a regular and consistent part of my life or I will always be fat because of the way I'm built, but that's fine because I've found a form of doing that which I love. I never wanted it enough before to go the distance.

Also, you can't lose weight just by eating less. I've tried that and it doesn't work, your body gets used to it and your metabolism slows down to compensate. Good old survival mechanisms.
 
A whole site to why fat people are fat without getting into the psychological side of it?

Yes, all fat people are fat because they're dumb lazy idiots. Well done. Just like girls with anorexia should "lol just eat more, amirite lol"?

So, we've just established what everyone already knew: input minus output equals weight. What about why, or how you can motivate those people to balance that equation a little better? But of course, that's easy, just eat less! Brilliant! And depressed people should just lighten the fuck up as well.
 
PvtRyan said:
A whole site to why fat people are fat without getting into the psychological side of it?

Yes, all fat people are fat because they're dumb lazy idiots. Well done. Just like girls with anorexia should "lol just eat more, amirite lol"?
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^^^ FATTY

PvtRyan said:
So, we've just established what everyone already knew: input minus output equals weight. What about why, or how you can motivate those people to balance that equation a little better? But of course, that's easy, just eat less! Brilliant! And depressed people should just lighten the fuck up as well.
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or at least be on a steady diet of Zoloft, Prozac and Paxil

"the blue one stops me from hearing voices ..the red one stops me from doing what the voices tell me to do"
 
Putting on weight of any kind requires a lot of hard work for me. I mean, it has to be something I spend a lot of time and effort on, like the priority of my day. If I were to slack off for a week or two, I'd be back to how skinny I was when I started.

I've basically spent 15 years weight training, and I'm the same as I was when I started. I just can't devote that much time to it, then I just relapse back into a weakling. The most I ever put on was like 30 lbs, but it was like 30 lbs less than my goal. It doesn't help that I have some kind of eating disorder, don't play sports, and don't really like eating. Also, I'm a vegetarian.
 
repiV said:
I've been overweight pretty much my whole life, and not because I live a particularly unhealthy lifestyle (although in recent years that's been the case more so), but because I am one of those people who will noticeably put on weight after one night of eating junk food and takes forever to lose it.

Also, you can't lose weight just by eating less. I've tried that and it doesn't work, your body gets used to it and your metabolism slows down to compensate. Good old survival mechanisms.
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Be honest with yourself, count your calories per day for a week and see where you are at. If you are overweight and you don't think it has to do with your eating habits you will be suprised. I gurantee you that you take in way more calories in a given day than you think you do.

Yes, your body does get used to it. But not before you lose a shit load of weight. And after that as long as your diet remains consistent you will continue to loose weight until you get to a point where you should be. People don't think their weight loss plan ever works because they don't want to stick to it. As the site said it's a lifetime commitment, not something you do for a little while then go back to stuffing your face with big macs. I've lost over 60 pounds in a matter of 6-8 months a couple years back. Since then I slowly gained 20 of that back because I wasn't willing to stick to healthy eating and regular excercise (something I am again trying to get back to). When you lose that kind of weight in such a short period of time you become a totally different person (in a good way).

Putting on weight of any kind requires a lot of hard work for me. I mean, it has to be something I spend a lot of time and effort on, like the priority of my day. If I were to slack off for a week or two, I'd be back to how skinny I was when I started.
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I wish that was my problem.

Also, I'm a vegetarian.
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This is your problem.
 
No Limit said:
Be honest with yourself, count your calories per day for a week and see where you are at. If you are overweight and you don't think it has to do with your eating habits you will be suprised. I gurantee you that you take in way more calories in a given day than you think you do.
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I always watch what I eat and how bad for you it is. I never snack, as I don't like crisps or chocolate or any other typical "snack foods", and I don't keep the stuff in the house. Aside from alcohol (which, granted, I drink far too much of on the weekends), I only ever drink water, and - at work, tea and coffee. But I drink a lot of water.

Even when I have an unhealthy dinner like a big plate of pasta, I'd say my calories are below 2000 most days. If anything my problem is booze, but that alone won't account for it. I have the occasional takeaway and the like, but it is occasional - my diet is far healthier than most people I know.

"Yo-yo dieting" occurs because dieting doesn't work. People go on the latest fad diet, lose a load of weight initially, then suddenly they can't lose any more - because the body thinks it's going to starve and holds on to all the fat. They work harder and harder to try and lose it by starving themselves of more and more colories, and as a consequence they lose less and less. So they give up and go back to their previous eating habits, which now are even WORSE because the dieting has damaged the metabolism considerably - hence they put on all the weight again, PLUS more.

Yes, your body does get used to it. But not before you lose a shit load of weight. And after that as long as your diet remains consistent you will continue to loose weight until you get to a point where you should be.
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Yeah, you lose a lot initially. It's not as simple as that over the long-term though. For starters, when you starve the fat via eating less than you need, you lose muscle as well as fat, which is really bad because muscle mass boosts metabolism. Thus, as you lose weight (fat AND muscle), so you lose the capacity to lose fat.

That's why weight training is so important for long-term fat loss. It provides a huge boost to your base metabolic rate, whereas cardio only really burns fat while you're doing the exercise - and in most cases, the amount you burn is surprisingly little.

Similarly, if you continue to do the same exercise indefinitely, you will also a reach a plateau and cease to lose any additional weight. That's why I'm doing this circuits class, the martial arts classes are really tough but my body has become so used to it and I've stopped losing weight. You need to trick the body's defense mechanisms by mixing it up and doing different things.
 
McGooTheWise said:
This is good for fat lazy people, but I know plenty of fat people that actually do not have time to work out, due to working 80 hours a week, and other things, like kids, or school + work, and family issues. But, I guess these people are smart enough to understand that this site doesn't apply to them.
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Still, they could go out and buy a couple weights or a chin up bar and do a few before they go to work/bed. I could tell that that would be a significant challenge for a 400+ pound person, but dieting won't help.

I've always just tried to build muscle. You lose weight and get muscles! Dieting is stupid.
 
repiV but have you ever actually counted the amount of calories you consume in a week? Not really that hard to do and it's quite an eye opener, believe me. What you said is kind of a classic example, I eat healthly but... There is always that but. I have the same problem with alcohol, I don't just drink it on weekends. I have a 32 hour a week job (just recently been able to afford to stop working fridays, woohooo!) and another 30 hours on top of that of contract work at home. When I get home I love getting a buzz going when I do my work here, it takes your mind off that fact that instead of going out you have to work. And my problem is I'm not an easy person to get buzzed.

And all that adds up in calories which then turns straight to fat. And if you counted those calories you would find that even though your one serving of pasta might not have 2,000 calories (it will be close) you still have 2 more meals ahead of you as well as other things.

I don't technically disagree with you when it comes to what you said in the second part of your post. But I think you are being way too technical here. In the end it's basic physics. Anything extra you put in to your body in terms of calories the body will store as fat. Any time you don't take enough calories in to keep you functioning your body will dig in to it's reserves. Most of the time those reseves are fat. And as you loose that fat you loose weight.

Burning muscle during this process is a problem. But really it is only any issue if you are starving yourself or if you have odd eating patterns. That's certainly not what I'm talking about. As long as you stay a couple hundred calories below what your body consumes in a day most of your weight loss will be fat and not muscle. On average for every 3,500 calories you don't give your body you loose a pound of fat. That adds up over a period of a year. If you are doing something more extreme such as what I was doing when I lost all that weight (1,200 calories a day or below) you will need to make sure you are eating lots of protein instead of fat and that you are doing enough exercise.

I've always just tried to build muscle. You lose weight and get muscles! Dieting is stupid.
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If you consume 3,000 calories a day (I would say many people easily do this a day) and you lift weights for an hour a day yes, you will gain muscle. But that muscle will be covered by a large layer of fat as your body will still be storing left over calories in the form of fat. Dieting is not stupid and is actually far more effective at weight loss than exercise is.
 
It's well known that your body burns calories for hours after exercise. You really need to do both for best results (exercise and watch what you eat, and how much).

I mean, even if you aren't fat, you still need to exercise. If you don't, your cardiovascular system will be a piece of shit and you will be susceptible to heart failure as you get older - especially if you are overweight and have bad circulation. I would guess that clogged arteries goes hand in hand with excess body fat.

Poor circulation has other ill effects too, like stroke, headaches, and even problems with blood flow to your brain - probably many others that I can't think of.
 
General rule of thumb for weight loss- not scientfic but fairly accurate (moreso for overweight women but the concept is the same for everyone)


take your weight in pounds, multiply it by ten, then add your weight.

eg: 200 * 10, + 200.

Thats the amount of calories you should eat daily to stay the same weight. eat less to lose weight.

easy. works for me. but i get ups and downs because I get lazy.



this one is also good for males

Harris Benedict Formula


FIRST, Calculate your BMR with this calculator http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:

•If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
General rule of thumb for weight loss- not scientfic but fairly accurate (moreso for overweight women but the concept is the same for everyone)


take your weight in pounds, multiply it by ten, then add your weight.

eg: 200 * 10, + 200.

Thats the amount of calories you should eat daily to stay the same weight. eat less to lose weight.

easy. works for me. but i get ups and downs because I get lazy.
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1270 calories or less? **** THAT :C
 
Kaptain H said:
1270 calories or less? **** THAT :C
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truf hurts :(


The bigger you are the easier it is to lose weight by eating less. thats why girls who are already skinny but want to lose 5 pounds have so much trouble losing it. While a huge lardass can lose 5 pounds in like 2 days by just eating a bit less than usual.


edit: you only weight around 115 pounds? wtf? how do you stay warm?
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
truf hurts :(


The bigger you are the easier it is to lose weight by eating less. thats why girls who are already skinny but want to lose 5 pounds have so much trouble losing it. While a huge lardass can lose 5 pounds in like 2 days by just eating a bit less than usual.
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I'm just not sure I buy that, when it comes to the lower weight range. I estimate eating about 1400-1700 calories a day, and have never gone over 132, even during periods of little physical activity in my daily routine. But I'm aware that it's a lot easier for those with a lot of extra pounds to lose initial weight, and I've been one to try and lose 4-5 pounds and had no luck.
 
today and yesterday I skipped a snack at work, that was my usual snickers bar. each are 2 oz. I just lost 4 oz and ate Apricots instead when I got home today. its that ****ing simple. its just as sweet and much better for you.
 
Warped said:
today and yesterday I skipped a snack at work, that was my usual snickers bar. each are 2 oz. I just lost 4 oz and ate Apricots instead when I got home today. its that ****ing simple. its just as sweet and much better for you.
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Have you ever noticed that dried apricots look and feel like baby ears?
 
Kaptain H said:
Have you ever noticed that dried apricots look and feel like baby ears?
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Grampa's shriveled sack.

organicturkishapricots.jpg
 
One thing I think can help your diet a lot is learning how to cook for yourself. Most of the junk I ate was because I was too lazy to cook, and eventually I forced myself to learn. Once I did, I noticed the food I was eating was significantly better quality.
 
[X] Fatties
[_] Rednecks
[_] Christianity
[_] Homos
[_] Stupid Asians
[_] Cosplay
[_] Virgins
 
VirusType2 said:
It's well known that your body burns calories for hours after exercise. You really need to do both for best results (exercise and watch what you eat, and how much).

I mean, even if you aren't fat, you still need to exercise. If you don't, your cardiovascular system will be a piece of shit and you will be susceptible to heart failure as you get older - especially if you are overweight and have bad circulation. I would guess that clogged arteries goes hand in hand with excess body fat.

Poor circulation has other ill effects too, like stroke, headaches, and even problems with blood flow to your brain - probably many others that I can't think of.
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:(

I apparently have some kind of high metabolism (off-the-charts underweight), but don't exercise. But I have high cholesterol. I've always been the kind of person to cut off all the fat on meats, and I don't even like the taste of things like bacon, hamburgers, any type of fried food, etc. When I cook at home, I use probably less than a teaspoon of oil to cook everything. So I'm a little pissed off that I have high cholesterol, although I do realize it is also due to lack of exercise.

Lately I have been walking (quickly) to school everyday. I don't know if that counts for anything? I don't like to run since once I ran literally like 10 steps a few years ago and it felt like something in my left knee popped, and occasionally that knee will feel a little weird now.
 
Lately I have been walking (quickly) to school everyday. I don't know if that counts for anything?
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Yea, 30 minutes a day is all you need. If your heart rate increases while you are moving, then that counts. You can probably feel your heart beating stronger.

On the other hand (just a guess) but I don't think having your heart rate increase while you aren't doing anything is good for you. For example, being scared or nervous. I don't know, please prove me wrong.
 
Some people are fat because eating, for them, is just a way out. And that's fine. That's who they are. Let it be. If it doesn't hurt you, there's no sense getting involved. When someone says "I'm fat" the response "Well, stop it." won't help them. Even telling them how won't help them, and the article says this, they want to be fat. Yes. they WANT to. That's how they deal with shit, and it's not up to you to tell them what is wrong or right. Unless you get that one in a hundred fatass that can't finish a sentence without bringing up the fact that he's too fat, or the world should compensate for him, then yes, badger the **** out of that no-life. But if you haven't been there, don't pretend to know.

Everyone has a defense mechanism. Some of us insult others, some of us overeat, and a few of us kill others. Personally, I block the world around me out. That's my defense. Just trying to relate it. I used to have a deep loathing for fatties, cause I worked at Jack in The Box, and every time I saw a fatass walking up to the door I knew they were going to order every goddamn thing off the menu, twice. Do you see all these other people in line? Do you really think you need that much food? But I've been made to understand that there is a difference from fat, and fattrash, if you will.
 
Mimsta said:
No, THIS is why you're fat.
Some of these actually look pretty tasty.
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Actually, want to know why Americans are fat? Go to Denny's, and look at the portion sizes. Holy shit. I order a grand slam, get 17 pancakes, a side of ham, 2 gallons of syrup, a stick of butter, and a loafs worth of french toast.
 
According to that BMR calculator my maintenance level is around 3000 calories a day.

No Limit said:
repiV but have you ever actually counted the amount of calories you consume in a week? Not really that hard to do and it's quite an eye opener, believe me. What you said is kind of a classic example, I eat healthly but... There is always that but. I have the same problem with alcohol, I don't just drink it on weekends. I have a 32 hour a week job (just recently been able to afford to stop working fridays, woohooo!) and another 30 hours on top of that of contract work at home. When I get home I love getting a buzz going when I do my work here, it takes your mind off that fact that instead of going out you have to work. And my problem is I'm not an easy person to get buzzed.

And all that adds up in calories which then turns straight to fat. And if you counted those calories you would find that even though your one serving of pasta might not have 2,000 calories (it will be close) you still have 2 more meals ahead of you as well as other things.
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That's a fair point. I usually throw caution to the wind when I'm out, and drinking usually gives me the munchies too (hello KFC). I'm pretty good the rest of the time.

I don't technically disagree with you when it comes to what you said in the second part of your post. But I think you are being way too technical here. In the end it's basic physics. Anything extra you put in to your body in terms of calories the body will store as fat. Any time you don't take enough calories in to keep you functioning your body will dig in to it's reserves. Most of the time those reseves are fat. And as you loose that fat you loose weight.

Burning muscle during this process is a problem. But really it is only any issue if you are starving yourself or if you have odd eating patterns. That's certainly not what I'm talking about. As long as you stay a couple hundred calories below what your body consumes in a day most of your weight loss will be fat and not muscle. On average for every 3,500 calories you don't give your body you loose a pound of fat. That adds up over a period of a year. If you are doing something more extreme such as what I was doing when I lost all that weight (1,200 calories a day or below) you will need to make sure you are eating lots of protein instead of fat and that you are doing enough exercise.
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Doing enough exercise is the key point though. A significant proportion of people today don't do ANY exercise. That's a real problem.

If you consume 3,000 calories a day (I would say many people easily do this a day) and you lift weights for an hour a day yes, you will gain muscle. But that muscle will be covered by a large layer of fat as your body will still be storing left over calories in the form of fat. Dieting is not stupid and is actually far more effective at weight loss than exercise is.
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I prefer the exercise route, it's a lot more fun and it's healthy in all sorts of other ways. I find it much easier to be disciplined about going to training than I do about not having that beer or Friday night kebab. Plus, when I do lose the weight, I'll be toned and muscley rather than a beanpole.

People down here in Devon are really fit though, which has kind of been an impetus to a degree as I stand out a lot more than I did in London. I'm 5 foot 6 and around 13 stone 10 (although I was pushing 17 stone not so long ago), so overweight but not massive by any means. Nonetheless, I'm almost always the largest person in any pub/club/venue I ever find myself in.

Also it's extremely hilly round here and it's nice not to get out of breath walking around, which you would do even if you were slim but unfit. There's a hill down the road called "Cardiac Hill". :)

I suppose in America everything's set up for cars so you wouldn't notice a lack of mundane everyday fitness so much. Here, everything's very compact and it's much easier to just walk places.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
General rule of thumb for weight loss- not scientfic but fairly accurate (moreso for overweight women but the concept is the same for everyone)


take your weight in pounds, multiply it by ten, then add your weight.

eg: 200 * 10, + 200.
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So... you multiply it by 11?
 
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