Games that you cant "get into"

[Sparta]

Take this sentence and multiply it by ten, and you begin to have some idea about how silly the Sons of Liberty storyline is. I love this PA strip, but it's actually somewhat less ridiculous than the actual storyline ^^ (I did actually like MGS2. Just the story got my back up a little)

lol, yeah my friend told me that towards the end of the game it starts getting weird and starts saying shit like "You've been playing for too long, you should get off" and shit like that.

And what the heck was that Fat guy on rollerblades? Just a fat Guy on rollerblades?

 

[kupocake]

And what the heck was that Fat guy on rollerblades? Just a fat Guy on rollerblades?

Well, I suppose that if you get morbidly obese, you've got to get around someway otherwise you're going nowhere quickly. Plus I believe that he had a bomb strapped to him or something.

 

[Sparta]

Well, I suppose that if you get morbidly obese, you've got to get around someway otherwise you're going nowhere quickly. Plus I believe that he had a bomb strapped to him or something.

Yeah, it was really gay wasn't it. Felt like Bomberman or something. Anyway i'm reading through the storyline now and it saying something like

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Liquid Snake is a clone of Solid Snake? and they're engineered or something? and Raiden has an orgy with Ocelot and a cow? Ok so i made that last part up but Raiden is gay

 

[kupocake]

Spoiler

Liquid Snake is a clone of Solid Snake? and they're engineered or something?

Actually, that was revealed in the MGS1. What is really stupid about how MGS2 progresses the story is:

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1) Revolver Ocelot has taken a hand off of Liquid's body in order to replace one he lost to the ninja in MGS1. At certain points in the story, Liquid Snake takes over Revolver Ocelot's body, and we get to hear that wonderfully awful "British" accent all over again. "That's right Snake! I'm yore Brotther!"

2) There is a third snake brother - Solidus. He used to be the president and he looks nothing like the other two.

 

[jimbo118]

Yeah, that's a problem I found in Splinter Cell: Pandorra Tommorow. Unless there's some odd plot twist coming up that explains it all fairly easily.

Spoiler

Just killed The Pain, got up to those guys with the flying platforms. They're complete bastards.

you didnt find the croc hat then,makes that part easy,one thing i really like about this 1 is the unexpected violence particurly with volgin,when you get to the base he goes nuts and you learn things about his sexual preferences ,the boss is so badass

 

[Sparta]

Actually, that was revealed in the MGS1. What is really stupid about how MGS2 progresses the story is:

Spoiler

1) Revolver Ocelot has taken a hand off of Liquid's body in order to replace one he lost to the ninja in MGS1. At certain points in the story, Liquid Snake takes over Revolver Ocelot's body, and we get to hear that wonderfully awful "British" accent all over again. "That's right Snake! I'm yore Brotther!"

2) There is a third snake brother - Solidus. He used to be the president and he looks nothing like the other two.

Wow, thats ridiculous. Really REALLY ridiculous

 

[jimbo118]

lol, yeah my friend told me that towards the end of the game it starts getting weird and starts saying shit like "You've been playing for too long, you should get off" and shit like that.

And what the heck was that Fat guy on rollerblades? Just a fat Guy on rollerblades?

lol that 'turn off the console' thing was the colonel who later turned out to be a ai,so a ai was talking to raiden the whole time,he says that because arsenal gears ai has been ****ed up,its pretty funny what he says tbh,theres a faq on gamefaqs listing his funny sayings, 'scissors 69'(fans will get it),i was actually pretty freaked out by what he said and turned off the console lol ,he even tells you to go home and let him do the fighting :smoking:

 

[Sparta]

lol that 'turn off the console' thing was the colonel who later turned out to be a ai,so a ai was talking to raiden the whole time,he says that because arsenal gears ai has been ****ed up,its pretty funny what he says tbh,theres a faq on gamefaqs listing his funny sayings, 'scissors 69'(fans will get it),i was actually pretty freaked out by what he said and turned off the console lol ,he even tells you to go home and let him do the fighting :smoking:

Yeah, now i'm 100% sure that the MGS2 storyline is a lamer version of Deus Ex. I mean Deus Ex had all the same stuff Metal Gear Solid 2 has from the sounds of it.

Secret Organisations, cloning projects, weird A.I's. But in Deus Ex it isn't weird like it sounds it is in MGS 2.

That twist at the end of Deus Ex with the Daedalus and Icarus A.I was really good.

 

[ComradeBadger]

You lot have just put me off the MGS games for life

 

[jimbo118]

Yeah, now i'm 100% sure that the MGS2 storyline is a lamer version of Deus Ex. I mean Deus Ex had all the same stuff Metal Gear Solid 2 has from the sounds of it.

Secret Organisations, cloning projects, weird A.I's. But in Deus Ex it isn't weird like it sounds it is in MGS 2.

That twist at the end of Deus Ex with the Daedalus and Icarus A.I was really good.

nah i doubt hideo ripped off deus ex,he doesnt play fps,he says he despises them,also mgs isnt supposed to be taken totally seriously,theres lotsa of tongue-in-cheek stuff,i mean mgs3 has weird characters too but their great fun,much better than bland splinter cell,for example the end is this 100 year old sniper who sleeps all the time and is able to gain strength from the forest in his battle against snake :hmph:

 

[Sparta]

nah i doubt hideo ripped off deus ex,he doesnt play fps,he says he despises them,also mgs isnt supposed to be taken totally seriously,theres lotsa of tongue-in-cheek stuff,i mean mgs3 has weird characters too but their great fun,much better than bland splinter cell,for example the end is this 100 year old sniper who sleeps all the time and is able to gain strength from the forest in his battle against snake :hmph:

I'm not saying it ripped of Deus Ex, as they barely have anything to do with each other except similar plot devices and elements. I'm just saying Deus Ex used those plot elements WAY better.

And i always liked the first Splinter Cell's storyline, Information Warfare and all that jazz. Sounds pretty cool when you think about it.

Also, some of the stuff i'm reading up on MGS 2's characters is just pointless. I mean, why do you want to include a characters sexuality in a game when it has no effect on the plot whatsoever?

 

[kupocake]

The thing is about the MGS series... is it's just so quirky. There are bits in them which are just so damned off the wall. It's really weird, because they build up this intense world of realism, and then they slam it in your face that its really a game. My favorite examples:

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1) MGS1: Beating Psycho Mantis by changing the controller port
2) MGS1: When Sniper Wolf shoots Meryl, the codec message that may as well say "Snake! Meryl's been shot. Now would be a good time to return back to the beginning of the game and get the sniper rifle. Don't worry, I'm sure Meryl will be just fine bleeding there in the snow".
3) MGS2: The whole final section in Arsenal Gear. Point A: the Colonel's random codec messages. Point B: head south from the Corridor where you meet up with Snake, and this weird, suggestive movie plays up on where your radar is. Point C: When fighting to the Metal Gear Ray factory (or whatever it is). The Mission Failed screen comes up for no reason - only, it reads "Fission Mailed" and play continues in the top right of the screen (where you usally see your corpse hitting the ground).

 

[mortiz]

You guys do realize that the MGS series is meant to be tongue-in-cheek right? At their core they are just spoofs of all those old spy movies, even the immensely complicated plot just accentuates this fact.

You'll have more fun with MGS is you treat it as a black comedy and not a straight action game.

I mean really, how could you possibly take the old "Who are the patriots" and "La-Le-Lu-Li-Lo" business seriously?

 

[kupocake]

You'll have more fun with MGS is you treat it as a black comedy and not a straight action game.

I mean really, how could you possibly take the old "Who are the patriots" and "La-Le-Lu-Li-Lo" business seriously?

Whilst I have totally got the point of the MGS series, it is still over ridiculous, and you can't say it's not at least partly suposed to be serious: for starters, there's a big anti Nuke message running throughout all of them. I enjoy the quirks, but I still think they go too far - what on earth are they parodying anyway?

 

[JMan]

Doom 3 - Everyone's pretty much explained this one.

Morrowind - I bought it on people's recommendations but couldn't get into it, I'm not a big fan of serious fantasy stuff, although I do like the Ultima series (replaying 7 now)

Devil May Cry - Just too hard, got up to the crazy scissor boss and stopped playing, replay it from the start on occasion to try and progress but never get passed that damn boss

A lot of the games being suggested seem to be ones that other people have recommended or have been hyped too much.

 

[Gray Fox]

The thing is about the MGS series... is it's just so quirky. There are bits in them which are just so damned off the wall. It's really weird, because they build up this intense world of realism, and then they slam it in your face that its really a game. My favorite examples:

Spoiler

1) MGS1: Beating Psycho Mantis by changing the controller port
2) MGS1: When Sniper Wolf shoots Meryl, the codec message that may as well say "Snake! Meryl's been shot. Now would be a good time to return back to the beginning of the game and get the sniper rifle. Don't worry, I'm sure Meryl will be just fine bleeding there in the snow".
3) MGS2: The whole final section in Arsenal Gear. Point A: the Colonel's random codec messages. Point B: head south from the Corridor where you meet up with Snake, and this weird, suggestive movie plays up on where your radar is. Point C: When fighting to the Metal Gear Ray factory (or whatever it is). The Mission Failed screen comes up for no reason - only, it reads "Fission Mailed" and play continues in the top right of the screen (where you usally see your corpse hitting the ground).

What you have just mentioned is what makes mgs so ****ing cool, how it invloves the real you in the story line.

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like in the first when psycho mantis proves his telecenetic abilities by moving your sontroller or when hunter gives you a massage via your controller.

 

[Warbie]

MGS is no more crazy than your average anime. I like its random whackiness - and don't really care that it's beyond silly. Infact that's part of the attraction.

Splinter Cell, on the other hand, made me fall asleep in a few minutes :/

Horses for courses.

 

[Gray Fox]

Actually, that was revealed in the MGS1. What is really stupid about how MGS2 progresses the story is:

Spoiler

1) Revolver Ocelot has taken a hand off of Liquid's body in order to replace one he lost to the ninja in MGS1. At certain points in the story, Liquid Snake takes over Revolver Ocelot's body, and we get to hear that wonderfully awful "British" accent all over again. "That's right Snake! I'm yore Brotther!"

2) There is a third snake brother - Solidus. He used to be the president and he looks nothing like the other two.

Liquids accent kicks ass, he kicks ass, he's the cooles bad guy ever created. He eats deathstars for lunch, pisses pure uranium, steals lollypops from kids, he does your mamma. In other words
Liquid Snake> everyone/everything else.

 

[Vigilante]

Most adventure games beucase I'm always getting lost and never know what to do...

 

[Sparta]

Liquids accent kicks ass, he kicks ass, he's the cooles bad guy ever created. He eats deathstars for lunch, pisses pure uranium, steals lollypops from kids, he does your mamma. In other words
Liquid Snake> everyone/everything else.

Even though now i realise its supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, it still sounds really really gay.

 

[satch919]

I'd have to say that I can't get into those mmorpg/rpg games. I've also tried to get into the Grand Theft Auto series but it really doesn't do a whole lot for me. I just like driving around Vice City on those motorcycles. Beyond that, it doesn't really catch my interest.

 

[jimbo118]

Even though now i realise its supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, it still sounds really really gay.

by gay i guess you mean odd as gay means to like men :dozey: ,anyway i felt like you sparta when i heard about the new metal gears bosses,i was like wtf,a old git who talks to the forest spirits,a guy who controls bees etc,a former astronaut turned fire-loving freak etc but when you play it it doesnt bother you tbh,its just that much fun and i agree with grey fox about the quirky things that make mgs great

 

[Kebean PFC]

Half-Life - Just got boring running around in somewhat dark tunnels, and the part where you had to turn on the fuel to kill the 3 headed worm thing pissed me off. Just got bored and stopped.

Dues Ex: Invisible War - After a while the gameplay got repetative (take this... do that... Die now...) same stuff over and over. And the ammo system sucked too.

Sim City 3000 - I though 2000 was great, but they mutilated this version. Once a city gets to be a certain size, everybody leaves, even with taxes set to zero. Also, it was really buggy, and the advisors pissed me off. (You need water, you need more room for trash... You need etc.)

Ghost Recon Original - Hated not being able to see your gun and being able to switch guys. It was so stupid, i die, so my spirit takes over this guys body... wtf? Also the sniper rifle was worthless as one shot killed anybody.. The only part i liked in that game was where you are in the POW facility and a bunch of guys come running in and you mow em down with the MG.

Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II - At the time (it was my first FPS) it was cool, but they reversed the mouse directions and made it so you couldn't set it right. And the graphics were bad (even at the time) i mean, people had box heads.

I liked Halo and Halo 2. The Battle Rifle is soo much better than the assult rifle from the first Halo. I also liked the Flood levels, they were easy for me. I dont have Doom, but the demo was pretty good. The shotty looks cool, but you are always low on ammo for it.

My $0.02

 

[special-ed]

COUNTER STRIKE.. PERIOD.. I just don't understand how one hit kill weapons with endless waiting/spectating can be fun for anyone.. it's just so repetative.. meh..

 

[Doppelgofer]

i know exactly what you mean....in my eyes, theres no skill to it either

no matter what you do, burst fire or have a really sharp aim, chances of hitting your target are random

i remember once for example i was shooting someone in the stomach and i managed a head shot.....awful

 

[blahblahblah]

Homeworld - I could never get into the game. I tried to love it so very very much
Splinter Cell - Can't put my finger on it why I don't like it
Warcraft 3 - Such a brutal game. I enjoy strategy games, but it was too much for me

General Genre - Hardcore RPG's (ie Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, etc). I love RPG's but I can never understand/grasp the rule sets and gameplay. I would love to experience one but I can't. So I've doomed myself to playing Diablo's and WoW-like games.

 

[AmishSlayer]

Devil May Cry - Just too hard, got up to the crazy scissor boss and stopped playing, replay it from the start on occasion to try and progress but never get passed that damn boss

I picked up Devil May Cry from a movie store (when I worked there) when it first came out. I sucked at it - couldn't beat the first phantom. I didn't play much and returned it.

Then I heard from my friends it was really cool once you got the hang of it and they told me of the cool moves they were doing. I watched them play a little and immediately went back to pick it up again.

I'm loving DMC3 right now (so refreshing to have a challenge in the middle of all these mainstream-easy-ass games that are coming out).

The scissors guy eh? He's in the sewers right? I used my shotgun a lot on him and did lots of leaping attacks on him and used Air Raid as well I think. Some devil-arms attacks I'd recommend you get are - Air Raid - Stinger lvl 2 - Air Hike (expensive but handy for dodging and getting to high areas with blue orb fragments). For Ifrit get Inferno - Rolling Blaze - Meteor. Don't forget to buy some blue orbs and purple orbs. They help a ton.

 

[el Chi]

Splinter Cell - Can't put my finger on it why I don't like it

Because you're dead inside?

Good to see you again though! It's been a while.

 

[Foxtrot]

Just about all Japanese games, they just seem so very very corny now. When I was a little kid I just took it as a fact that that is how games are, but now that I know more I can see that it is the fruity Japenese culture and I don't have to suffer through it, I can just play a game made in America or Europe.

 

[bam23]

Prince of Persia Warrior Within. The saves and checkpoints are ridiculously far apart and the camera is horrible. Dying made you start from waaaaaay back.

I just gave up on it.

 

[Smack500]

Prince of persia:warior within
I loved everything about the first one, but for some reason I just got bored playing it.

Doom III
I dont understand how people truely like replaying this game. I beat it, but it felt like a chore after about 30 minutes into it.

Zelda: Majoras mask
I liked OOT alot, and several people told me to get majoras mask because there just alike. I never could get into it.

As for the people as said they dont like splinter cell, and didnt know why. Its probally the absence of a story. It had great gameplay and gphx at the time they were released. But imo they have no real story to speak of.

 

[Orgonomist]

I thought the gameplay was the worst part of Splinter Cell. The entire game was one big obstacle course. What really irked me though was the clash between the realistic story (as far I remember - I only played a couple of missions into it) and environments, and the absurdity of the gameplay. A special ops guy who can't make a headshot from six feet away? Enemies who take multiple shots to the chest without flinching? The fact that you instantly fail the mission if you so much as try and employ independent thought?

I can't stand it when immersion is compromised with abstract compensations for shoddy game design.

 

[ButtHoleMcGee]

Halo, DOOM 3, and Final Fantasy XI.

 

[Kazuki_Fuse]

Couldn't get into FarCry, hitman contracts, deus ex 1.

 

[Kebean PFC]

Interesting. I see that most of you didnt like HALO. Why? At the time it had good gfx, and solid gameplay (online was the best IMHO) and i cant wait for them to port HALO 2 to PC.

 

[ButtHoleMcGee]

Interesting. I see that most of you didnt like HALO. Why? At the time it had good gfx, and solid gameplay (online was the best IMHO) and i cant wait for them to port HALO 2 to PC.

For a console game, the gameplay was nice. But the level design was just piss poor.

 

[AmishSlayer]

For a console game, the gameplay was nice. But the level design was just piss poor.

SP levels were kinda meh if you ask me. Blood Gultch and Hang 'em High (Sidewinder comes in honorable mention) are the best MP levels I've played in a lo-....ever.

 

[Warbie]

Halo is a love/hate game. Personally I found it more exciting, challenging, and rewarding than any single player pc shooter i've played (and i've played nearly all of them)

Horses for courses

(Golden Eye is still the daddy though)

A game I couldn't get into was Diablo 2. Loved the first, not sure what the second lacked, but it was definately something.

 

[Zeus]

ninja gaiden because I get so mad I turn it off within a half hour of turning the game on

 

[Smack500]

Halo is not just love/hate, I liked it, but did not love it.

I thought it had excellent gameplay, and a good story line. Although I hated the level design, Everyone who played it had to notice the repitious look of so many levels. To me this is a big deal, because at some points I felt like I was replaying levels, several times. I have herd tons of halo fans on halo forums complain about the same thing.

I also dont see how anyone found this game to be hard, and yes I used the hardest sitting.