"George Bush Doesn't care about Black People" - Kayne West

[RakuraiTenjin]

I love the gang sign. How he ended up doing that with his hand to look like one I don't know. haha.

 

[MiccyNarc]

zomg...are those actual words from his mouth?

When does a llama learn to operate a computer?

George Bush DOES care about black people

Proof

ROFL.

 

[jabberwock95]

zomg...are those actual words from his mouth?

Yep. Just not quite in the right order...

 

[ríomhaire]

Yep. Just not quite in the right order...

Including the word 'niger'?

 

[DreadLord]

Including the word 'niger'?

It's part of another word.

 

[skull24]

Someone said

Police are being killed.

I haven't heard any reports of Police dieing but I have heard reports of them quieting their jobs. I feel the government was to slow because they had 5 days to make a plain for the worst possible result and they didn't have one. They could not control the aftermath of the storm but they took too long to send help and everyone knows that. They are even refusing help from other countries like Cuba and Mexico. I mean if they want to help and send us supplies why not? It would relive some stress on our own resources.

 

[skull24]

lol @ its time for someone to lead all of americas niggas.

That joke sucks and its about time someone lead all of those dumb crakars.

 

[T.H.C.138]

areas where the idiots shoot at rescue workers/police should be left alone..they obviously don't want any help..so screw 'em...

and it is "cracker".. not "crakar"

I wish someone would lead,besides Tupac (a dead man) and these other "great" role models...

 

[Lemonking]

Someone said

I haven't heard any reports of Police dieing but I have heard reports of them quieting their jobs. I feel the government was to slow because they had 5 days to make a plain for the worst possible result and they didn't have one. They could not control the aftermath of the storm but they took too long to send help and everyone knows that. They are even refusing help from other countries like Cuba and Mexico. I mean if they want to help and send us supplies why not? It would relive some stress on our own resources.

2 Deputys got shot
they are looking for 100 more Deputys my Father is thinking about going there
hes just gonna get shot Im something I hope he chnages his mind

 

[skull24]

2 Deputys got shot
they are looking for 100 more Deputys my Father is thinking about going there
hes just gonna get shot Im something I hope he chnages his mind

I think your dad should just donate can food or money, if he goes down there I don't think he will be shout or anything. If he is not a police officer or something like that he should try to help out at the red cross other then that tell him to stay home.

 

[Lemonking]

hes a Deputy Sherriff for Orange County

 

[Kamikazie]

I think your dad should just donate can food or money, if he goes down there I don't think he will be shout or anything. If he is not a police officer or something like that he should try to help out at the red cross other then that tell him to stay home.

he could 'shout' but that would do no good. (just messin with ya skull)

lemonking: dont you live in california? why would he go to louisiana thats like 2000-3000 miles away from there

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Kamikazie we've had lots of units of police reinforcements or medical personnel move through Golden Valley and Kingman, Arizona for pitstops on their way to New Orleans and the South from California and Nevada cities. There's so much that resources need to come from everywhere and people are pitching in like no other.

 

[gh0st]

my brother is a firefighter and he begged to go but couldnt, because he was a probationary (1st year) firefighter. but a ton of other guys from seattle/western washington are down there.

 

[Kamikazie]

why dont they just take people from the local region...kind of stupid to get people from all the way from cali, new mexico, etc. imo

 

[gh0st]

why dont they just take people from the local region...kind of stupid to get people from all the way from cali, new mexico, etc. imo

gee, maybe because... there arent enough local officers/medics/firefighters?

 

[No Limit]

BUSH'S non-actions. It is BUSH who isnt acting. So ****ing predictible. Here no limit, i'll defend him.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin doesnt make evacuations mandatory (required) up until 36 hours before landfall. By that time the majority of people who were to go, would have already left. What needed to be done (the warnings that this hurricane was going to be disasterous were there, issued by NOAA) was a forced evacuation from peoples home's by the national guard.

The Mayor made the evacuations mandatory on the 27th, the same day NOAA issued the advisory:

http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20050827140651837

Where were the national guard? they werent mobilized by louisiana's governor Kathleen Blanco until AFTER the storm had hit. they werent even started to mobilize until after the damage had already been done. had a credible leader been in charge, the guard would have been in there hours after the storm had occured.

Blanco asked for assistance on the 27th, 2 days before the storm hit:

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/articles.aspx?aid=4843

This gave the president full authroity to authorize the national guard to go in and hold evacuations.

"August 27, 2005, evening: Governor Blanco interrupts Mayor Nagin at dinner: after President Bush appeals for a mandatory evacuation of the city, telling him to call the National Hurricane Center. He subsequently orders a mandatory evacuation for Sunday, 24 hours before landfall. "

A city the size of new orleans needs MUCH longer to evacuate. ray nagin simply took too long. bush had been begging them to make an evacuation mandatory. OOPS, NAGIN ****ING BLEW IT.

Again, this is when they found out the storm was going to hit New Orleans. you can not evacuate a city the size of New orleans without being sure.

mayor nagin and governor blanco made other disasterous blunders which would cost thousands of new orleans residents their lives. by giving those stranded permission to loot, they set in motion a chain of events that would make rescuing the remaining tens of thousands impossible.

Which disasterous blunders are these? You need to give me some examples. I do not recall them every giving permission to loot. I call bullshit.

"Criticizing Nagin and Blanco for their failure to recognize the uniqueness of the threat could be seen as hindsight, what came next is unforgivable – dismissing the lawlessness sweeping the city as secondary. As we have since discovered – in a near-perfect validation the "broken windows" theory – first you had the "victimless" looting of plasma TVs and jewelry. And next you have rape and murder and snipers picking off evacuees. And the best the Governor can do is pout. "

yeah, lawlessness was a huge problem. Most police officers walked off the job. The problem here was there was not enough national guard troops to handle both. Guess where those troops were? Here

fema's reaction has been slow but as fast as physically possible given the horrendous situation set up for them by local officials. go ahead and blame bush you delusional prat, whatever helps you get to sleep at night.

you are missing the entire point. Bush didn't get off his vacation for 3 days after the hurricane hit. He simply did not take it seriously. On Monday, the day it hit, he was eating cake with McCain. On Tueday he was playing guitar with some country singer. Finally on friday he decided he would go in for a photo op.

You are also missing the other drastic point you simply can't defend. FEMA, in 2001 warned Bush that a category 5 hurricane hitting New Orleans would be the worst disaster in the decade and they suggested that the leeves should be rebuilt. Bush cut funding for the project by 40% in 2004 to pay for Iraq. When a republican criticised him for it he was fired.

What the **** do you want him to do? go down there and start kissing people the FIRST day of the hurricane? what difference would it make? HE'S DOING WHAT HE CAN. he signed into law 10.5 billion dollars of aid asap, he's been through the damaged areas, he's ordered fema and federal troops to respond HE CANT DO ANYTHING MORE SHORT OF PICKING UPA SHOVEL AND HELP MOVE DEBRIS.

yeah, he signed that in to law 5 days after the fact. In the schiavo case he cut short his vacation to sign an emergancy bill and the republicans in congress set up a special session. Sickening. What he did on friday was do a big photo op for his political advantage, nothing more.

as for kanye west, he's just a douchebag. he has no knowledge of politics any more than those other douchebag celebrities who sing their hearts out on tv to raise money. he's a talking head, another celebrity to spur the youth of america against the government when no resistence is necessary. "george bush doesnt care about black people". what a dumb ****ing stupid thing to say. he wouldnt say it if fargo north dakota were under 20 feet of water. "george bush doesnt care about white people". can you imagine that? what a hypocritical asshole. i hope he chokes on his donation and dies.

He had a good point about those people being poor having something to do with the slow relief effert. I'm not sure if I agree but with Bush's non-actions I can see how he can feel that way.

 

[OCybrManO]

George Bush DOES care about black people

Proof

George Bush has a career in music

Proof

 

[Ennui]

I don't think gh0st's policy of always defending Bush is at all wise, because while he rarely does something well, he usually does something where he's in the wrong and thus it's silly to defend him.

 

[Icarusintel]

I don't think gh0st's policy of always defending Bush is at all wise, because while he rarely does something well, he usually does something where he's in the wrong and thus it's silly to defend him.

it's always fun to play devil's advocate.. but then again, maybe it's because he's part of the small minority here that actually supports Bush and therefore stops many threads from being completely one-sided Bush hatefests

 

[KoreBolteR]

George Bush has a career in music

Proof

LOL those are quality songs! :imu:

 

[DreadLord]

I was listening to "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" this morning, by Kanye West, and realized he commented on something pretty funny in it. Seeing you're all so intent on calling him Kayne, you might find this funny.

Now all I need is y’all to pronounce my name
Its Kanye - But some of my plaques - they still say Kane

 

[Lemonking]

who gives a damn what that dude says I watched the Vid that dudes


"the poor and the black" thats what he said or "they are shooting us" us? does he mean his homies? gimme a break

 

[gh0st]

no limit: im not saying at ALL that the federal governments response ot katrina has been perfect. the point i'm trying to make is that it is simply stupid to place all blame on one mans shoulders. everyone has a part in this fiasco. from the director of fema, to the mayor of new orleans and the governor of louisiana. i think its irrational to blame bush because he was on vacation.

I don't think gh0st's policy of always defending Bush is at all wise, because while he rarely does something well, he usually does something where he's in the wrong and thus it's silly to defend him.

who is defending him? i'll defend bush from stupid and irrational comments. i think he's an abysmal president.

lol @ sunday bloody sunday by george bush.

 

[OCybrManO]

i think its irrational to blame bush because he was on vacation.

Well, you would be right about that if he hadn't already set a precedent of breaking off his vacation, rushing back to DC as fast as possible, and pushing emergency legislation through in less than a day. In this case, to "save" one brain-dead person from being taken off life support. So, let's see. That's less than 24 hours to prevent someone from "dying" because of human intervention (when said intervention has been the only thing keeping her "alive" for decades)... but it takes the better part of a week after a hurricane that had days of warning before it came ashore before they decide to do anything to save the many people that are actually conscious and able to suffer from possible starvation, drowning, and disease?

Other than that, I agree.

 

[gh0st]

umm... what legislation, exactly, could he have pushed through congress to help those people? i'm willing to bet no southerner has seen a dime of the 10.5 billion dollars even now, so whats your point?

 

[OCybrManO]

So, waiting 5 days is going to get money/aid there faster? Every bit of saved time counts in situations like this. I'm not expecting them to get the aid there immediately or even within the first day (hell, a week would have been great)... but saying that it doesn't matter if they wait is just not true. You'd think after a major event like the WTC attacks we would have learned how to conduct our government swiftly and efficiently during times of crisis... but it's looking like the same sluggish behemoth we're used to seeing every other day of the year.

 

[gh0st]

...again, anything passed by congress (especially financial, the only thing GW can do through congress) will take time. 5 days is irrelevant.

 

[No Limit]

no limit: im not saying at ALL that the federal governments response ot katrina has been perfect. the point i'm trying to make is that it is simply stupid to place all blame on one mans shoulders. everyone has a part in this fiasco. from the director of fema, to the mayor of new orleans and the governor of louisiana. i think its irrational to blame bush because he was on vacation.

Again, you are missing the point. He was on vacation, I think he had a right to take that vacation. However, when a disaster larger than 9/11 happens you get your ass off vacation and set up a team of advisors to manage the situtation. Instead of leaving his vacation on Saturday or Sunday before the hurricane struck he didn't do that until 2-3 days after. Its another example of him being an incompetent leader.

And you missed this point everytime for some weird reason; FEMA told him in 2001 a large hurricane hitting New Orleans would be the worst disaster in the decade. What did Bush do? He cut emergency funding by 40% for New Orleans because of the Iraq war.

 

[No Limit]

...again, anything passed by congress (especially financial, the only thing GW can do through congress) will take time. 5 days is irrelevant.

Again, you are now just bullshitting your way out of this. In the Terri Schiavo case he broke off his vacation and legislation was passed in less than a day. In this case it took 5 because he was on vacation for the first 3 and then used Thursday and Friday as a photo op for political gain.

Do you fail to understand Bush simply didn't grasp how serious this disaster was? He's incompetent to lead this nation. He showed this during 9/11 when it took him 10 minutes to get off his ass while the nation was under attack and he proved this once again with this disaster.

 

[Sainku]

The guy messed up a relief fund by calling bush racist, now he has "balls" because he spoke his "unscripted mind" and stuck it to the man! Take that you relief fund raising bastards! I bet bush is to embarrased to show his racist, poor people hating face now that kayne west is done with him.

It was not the time or the place to promote a political agenda, but you all seem to be just fine with it. You support it, you even participate. With the exception of a few people all the media has done is yell at the president and sink a boat, they have done nothing to deserve your praise. Trucks filled with water and clothes do much more good than kayne west's crying.

 

[No Limit]

The guy messed up a relief fund by calling bush racist, now he has "balls" because he spoke his "unscripted mind" and stuck it to the man! Take that you relief fund raising bastards! I bet bush is to embarrased to show his racist, poor people hating face now that kayne west is done with him.

It was not the time or the place to promote a political agenda, but you all seem to be just fine with it. You support it, you even participate. With the exception of a few people all the media has done is yell at the president and sink a boat, they have done nothing to deserve your praise. Trucks filled with water and clothes do much more good than kayne west's crying.

So you think that if a similar disaster happened in Frenso California, where virtually no black and no poor people live, as many people would have died?

 

[Sainku]

So you think that if a similar disaster happened in Frenso California, where virtually no black and no poor people live, as many people would have died?

I was actually addressing the inaction and hypocrisy of the media or more specifically all the Hollywood stars (with the exception of the few, who are helping quite a bit) who think yelling at bush is helping. But anyway...

No, I don't think there is anything he could or would do differently besides being more efficient due to the fact that he has learned a few things from this.

You really just missed my point, it really doesn't matter right now. There are still people sitting on rooftops, people can play the bush is the devil game later.

 

[Dynasty]

you cant tell but im trying to break the tension by mooning you guys...

 

[No Limit]

I was actually addressing the inaction and hypocrisy of the media or more specifically all the Hollywood stars (with the exception of the few, who are helping quite a bit) who think yelling at bush is helping. But anyway...

No, I don't think there is anything he could or would do differently besides being more efficient due to the fact that he has learned a few things from this.

You really just missed my point, it really doesn't matter right now. There are still people sitting on rooftops, people can play the bush is the devil game later.

I don't understand some people that say Bush shouldn't be blamed. When our leader shows he doesn't have the skill to be a leader what do you want people that see this to do, sit by and just take it? Bush has demonstrated he is not a leader time and time again, yet, because of reasoning like yours, he was elected again in 04. I want to make sure (along with about 60-70% of this country according to the latest polls) that nobody that supported this president gets elected in to public office in 06/08. Our elected officials need to be held accountable when they screw up and thousands die so americans don't make the same mistake come election season.

 

[diluted]

We shouldn't have to blame Bush, he should be man enough to step up and admit that his government failed the people of the Gulf Coast, and vow that he will see to it that the mistakes made will never happen again.

Chances of that happening? About 1 in 38 billion

 

[Dynasty]

I don't understand some people that say Bush shouldn't be blamed. When our leader shows he doesn't have the skill to be a leader what do you want people that see this to do, sit by and just take it? Bush has demonstrated he is not a leader time and time again, yet, because of reasoning like yours, he was elected again in 04. I want to make sure (along with about 60-70% of this country according to the latest polls) that nobody that supported this president gets elected in to public office in 06/08. Our elected officials need to be held accountable when they screw up and thousands die so americans don't make the same mistake come election season.

*cries* that was...beautiful. you just cant write this stuff....:E

 

[gh0st]

However, when a disaster larger than 9/11 happens you get your ass off vacation and set up a team of advisors to manage the situtation. Instead of leaving his vacation on Saturday or Sunday before the hurricane struck he didn't do that until 2-3 days after. Its another example of him being an incompetent leader.

"set up a team of advisors to manage the situation". thank god you arent in charge of america no limit, i think you just took a big old dump on states rights. what exactly would this crack squad of advisors be able to do? take charge of a sovreign state and start "getting shit done"? youre pulling your ideas out of your ass at this point. plz exit the internet. the amount of callous hate you put into george bush is outrageous.

And you missed this point everytime for some weird reason; FEMA told him in 2001 a large hurricane hitting New Orleans would be the worst disaster in the decade. What did Bush do? He cut emergency funding by 40% for New Orleans because of the Iraq war.

not sure if you've already posted, please link me. i guarantee you that youre spinning facts right here.

Again, you are now just bullshitting your way out of this. In the Terri Schiavo case he broke off his vacation and legislation was passed in less than a day. In this case it took 5 because he was on vacation for the first 3 and then used Thursday and Friday as a photo op for political gain. i know that the areas of the levee that broke were just recently upgraded.

WHAT LEGISLATION? The law prohibiting hurricane contact with mainland america? BUSH SIGNED THE AID INTO LAW AS SOON AS IT HIT HIS DESK.

Do you fail to understand Bush simply didn't grasp how serious this disaster was? He's incompetent to lead this nation. He showed this during 9/11 when it took him 10 minutes to get off his ass while the nation was under attack and he proved this once again with this disaster.

thanks for your opinion.

here is a post by ben stein in his blog article. read it and stfu.

A few truths, for those who have ears and eyes and care to know the truth:

1.) The hurricane that hit New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama was an astonishing tragedy. The suffering and loss of life and peace of mind of the residents of those areas is acutely horrifying.

2.) George Bush did not cause the hurricane. Hurricanes have been happening for eons. George Bush did not create them or unleash this one.

3.) George Bush did not make this one worse than others. There have been far worse hurricanes than this before George Bush was born.

4.) There is no overwhelming evidence that global warming exists as a man-made phenomenon. There is no clear-cut evidence that global warming even exists. There is no clear evidence that if it does exist it makes hurricanes more powerful or makes them aim at cities with large numbers of poor people. If global warming is a real phenomenon, which it may well be, it started long before George Bush was inaugurated, and would not have been affected at all by the Kyoto treaty, considering that Kyoto does not cover the world's worst polluters -- China, India, and Brazil. In a word, George Bush had zero to do with causing this hurricane. To speculate otherwise is belief in sorcery.

5.) George Bush had nothing to do with the hurricane contingency plans for New Orleans. Those are drawn up by New Orleans and Louisiana. In any event, the plans were perfectly good: mandatory evacuation. It is in no way at all George Bush's fault that about 20 percent of New Orleans neglected to follow the plan. It is not his fault that many persons in New Orleans were too confused to realize how dangerous the hurricane would be. They were certainly warned. It's not George Bush's fault that there were sick people and old people and people without cars in New Orleans. His job description does not include making sure every adult in America has a car, is in good health, has good sense, and is mobile.

6.) George Bush did not cause gangsters to shoot at rescue helicopters taking people from rooftops, did not make gang bangers rape young girls in the Superdome, did not make looters steal hundreds of weapons, in short make New Orleans into a living hell.

7.) George Bush is the least racist President in mind and soul there has ever been and this is shown in his appointments over and over. To say otherwise is scandalously untrue.

8.) George Bush is rushing every bit of help he can to New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama as soon as he can. He is not a magician. It takes time to organize huge convoys of food and now they are starting to arrive. That they get in at all considering the lawlessness of the city is a miracle of bravery and organization.

9.) There is not the slightest evidence at all that the war in Iraq has diminished the response of the government to the emergency. To say otherwise is pure slander.

10.) If the energy the news media puts into blaming Bush for an Act of God worsened by stupendous incompetence by the New Orleans city authorities and the malevolence of the criminals of the city were directed to helping the morale of the nation, we would all be a lot better off.

11.) New Orleans is a great city with many great people. It will recover and be greater than ever. Sticking pins into an effigy of George Bush that does not resemble him in the slightest will not speed the process by one day.

12.) The entire episode is a dramatic lesson in the breathtaking callousness of government officials at the ground level. Imagine if Hillary Clinton had gotten her way and they were in charge of your health care.

God bless all of those dear people who are suffering so much, and God bless those helping them, starting with George Bush.

****
UPDATE: Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005, 2:13 p.m.:

More Mysteries of Katrina:

Why is it that the snipers who shot at emergency rescuers trying to save people in hospitals and shelters are never mentioned except in passing, and Mr. Bush, who is turning over heaven and earth to rescue the victims of the storm, is endlessly vilified?

What church does Rev. Al Sharpton belong to that believes in passing blame and singling out people by race for opprobrium and hate?

What special abilities does the media have for deciding how much blame goes to the federal government as opposed to the city government of New Orleans for the aftereffects of Katrina?

If able-bodied people refuse to obey a mandatory evacuation order for a city, have they not assumed the risk that ill effects will happen to them?

When the city government simply ignores its own sick and hospitalized and elderly people in its evacuation order, is Mr. Bush to blame for that?

Is there any problem in the world that is not Mr. Bush's fault, or have we reverted to a belief in a sort of witchcraft where we credit a mortal man with the ability to create terrifying storms and every other kind of ill wind?

Where did the idea come from that salvation comes from hatred and criticism and mockery instead of love and co-operation?

The responsibility for the mess in New Orleans rests directly on the shoulders of that incompetent mayor and the governor of the state. The first responders are always the state and local governments but in this case they were totally unprepared and incapable. Even though they knew days in advance that the storm was a killer they failed to move the old, the infirm, and the stranded out of the city. Their incompetent behavior borders on criminal and their rantings about the federal government are nothing more than transparent attempts to cover their butts. This was not a breakdown within the federal system.

The federal government always responds to the local authorities and gives aid and assistance as requested. In this case, the local authorities were so incompetent that they didn't even know what to ask for. If the president hadn't pleaded with the governor to effect a mandatory evacuation the conditions would be even worse. Now, the media needs to get off the president's back and put the blame where it belongs.

 

[Dynasty]

heres a line from the Declaration Of Independence:

'But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security'

now im not from America, but even I know what this basically means. it means that those who have the ability to act against something have the responsibility to act against it.

Bush HAS the ability to act againts the flooding within a day or two, but a WEEK after the incident he suddenly clicks his fingers??? sorry, but if the world's 'biggest super power' can decide to invade Iraq overnight (figure of speech, obviously it wasnt 'overnight'), they sure as hell can send relief effort to New Orleans within hours of the incident itself...

and here come the flames and piss takes directed at me for expressing a point of view...*gets out riot shield and sits in corner*

 

[gh0st]

ummm.. i dont think it took "overnight" to decide to invade iraq. people have this ****ing stupid misconception that the federal government fixes things as they happen, or that george bush is somehow responsible for organizing and doing this. its just bullshit. local officials are the first responders - ALWAYS - and have the obligation to request help from the federal government which simply didnt happen. by the time local officials got out of their stupor, things started to happen. no limit is just trying desperately to protect failed democrats.