Halo 3

I really don't understand any of this halo hype... I bought an xbox 360 few months ago and haven't even thought of buying Halo 3. I played the first Halo on the xbox and was like meh (got bored after about 20min). Then my friends said that it's better with co-op. Yea it was in someways more atracting but it was still the same shitty game.

After a few months I discovered that pretty much everyone agreed when I said that Halo was utter BS. But they always added 'it's great with co-op'. First shit then co-op. Sigh...
 
Four player co-op? Mods give HL2 32 player co-op.

What a silly thing to say Rab. Modern day PCs are roughly 10 times more powerful then the Xbox.

*hands out captain-obvious badge to Rab*
 
Shock horror - a Halo thread degenerated into a Half Life vs Halo/PC vs. Xbox strumash.
 
Very different games. Left 4 Dead looks great fun in a frantic blast everything, co-op meets tdm, cover you team mate kind of way. It's certainly one i'm looking forward too, but in a more traditional multiplayer sense - working your way through maps rather a campaign. Halo 3 is going to be a far more tactical and story driven experience - working in a group, covering each other with snipers, using vehicles - should be crap loads of fun and offer a load of options. The HL2 mods that support 32 players are so different it's silly to even make the comparison.

Bakurei said:
I played the first Halo on the xbox and was like meh (got bored after about 20min)

There's no chance you can appreciate what Halo does well in 20 minutes. Infact, after the first play through on casual settings I was slating it on forums just like this. 7/10 at best. Then I was introduced to Legendary and everything changed. Say what you want about Halo (on the xbox, the pc version wasn't up to par), but it takes more skill and offers more challenge and scope to for improving your game than any other single player shooter. By far. After that you can run through games Like far Cry, Fear, you name it, and not have to think - because all they are in comparison are mindless point and click. Halo co-op is easily one of the best fps co-op experiences to date and multiplayer is good, simple fun.

Phew, needed to get that off my chest - all set for another few weeks of no Halo ranting while the rage bar fills up again :)
 
Very different games. Left 4 Dead looks great fun in a frantic blast everything, co-op meets tdm, cover you team mate kind of way. It's certainly one i'm looking forward too, but in a more traditional multiplayer sense - working your way through maps rather a campaign. Halo 3 is going to be a far more tactical and story driven experience - working in a group, covering each other with snipers, using vehicles - should be crap loads of fun and offer a load of options. The HL2 mods that support 32 players are so different it's silly to even make the comparison.



There's no chance you can appreciate what Halo does well in 20 minutes. Infact, after the first play through on casual settings I was slating it on forums just like this. 7/10 at best. Then I was introduced to Legendary and everything changed. Say what you want about Halo (on the xbox, the pc version wasn't up to par), but it takes more skill and offers more challenge and scope to for improving your game than any other single player shooter. By far. After that you can run through games Like far Cry, Fear, you name it, and not have to think - because all they are in comparison are mindless point and click. Halo co-op is easily one of the best fps co-op experiences to date and multiplayer is good, simple fun.

Phew, needed to get that off my chest - all set for another few weeks of no Halo ranting while the rage bar fills up again :)

Halo is still crap. It can't be summed up more than saying, it's a good fps for a console, and a terribly mediocre game for the PC. In comparison they are mindless point and clicks? Please. Halo couldn't be more simple and bland. Okay, you state that it takes more than skill and offers more challange? Wtf? I beat it on legendary my second time playing. Nothing hard or challenging there. Just boring boring boring.

There's hardly any variety in the AI you fight.
The weapons suck balls.
There's no puzzles or anything that requires a great amount of brains.
The map design is repetitive and boring as watching paint dry.
There are no NPC's that you feel attached to and no one that you feel you want to die for.
The story is full of yawn.
It's too damn colorful.

Yes, the Hl2 mods that handle 32 players are completely different. Difference is, they are infinitely better. Not just games produced by valve or use the valve engine. All other team based games. It's different because you can cover each other with snipers? Pfff, wow. I'll go play DoD:S if i wanted to be covered by a sniper. Yah want vehicles? Go play any of the BF games. There's no other game that requires more teamwork than those games right there. How is it "far more tactical"? You hide, shoot, throw, repeat.

If I wanted a good Co-Op experience, I'll go play the original DOOM.
 
Say what you want about Halo (on the xbox, the pc version wasn't up to par), but it takes more skill and offers more challenge and scope to for improving your game than any other single player shooter. By far. After that you can run through games Like far Cry, Fear, you name it, and not have to think - because all they are in comparison are mindless point and click.

This is so damn mundane. Instead of providing an experience like other games strive for, it just offers up a shooting gallery. Bungie - and this is a fact - do little more than place enemies in the players path throughout their levels. That is *all* you do in Halo.
 
Halo series Co-Op IS very fun, but no more fun than every other Co-Op game under the sun that can be played in a room with a group of friends and enough snacks and alcohol to stave off death with.
 
I beat it on legendary my second time playing. Nothing hard or challenging there. Just boring boring boring.

You must be rather good then ;)

The combat is still more engaging than any single player shooter i've played on the pc - and fps are my thang, having played in clans for years and everything single player from the original Wolfenstein, to Sin, Shogo, SS etc all the way to modern day shooters. None require as much quick thinking or practise. I'll also point out there's a big difference between being able to survive Legendary and making it your bitch.

I don't see the point in comparing co-op Halo to multiplayer games, either, as they are very different experiences. Playing pc fps online is nothing like taking out ai in a story story driven campaign with a bunch of friends. Both can be superb for different reasons.

And you're right Samon, it is pretty much just a shooting gallery, just one that demands and rewards a great deal if combat floats your boat and if you're prepared to put the time in. The fact is - most modern fps, on any platform, bore me when it comes to combat. I honestly can't remember the last pc fps that didn't have painfully medicore gun battles, and certainly none that match Halo. It may be *all* you do in Halo, but it's done well.

Halo series Co-Op IS very fun, but no more fun than every other Co-Op game under the sun that can be played in a room with a group of friends and enough snacks and alcohol to stave off death with.

There's certainly some truth in this. I'd argue that Halo does it better than most. The annoying thing is that so few developers even bother with co-op when it can be sooo much fun.
 
Aye, we just have to complete the circle every month or so to prevent the universe from imploding.
 
Did you mean to say Half-Life 2?

Because if you mean that Half-Life wasn't innovative for its time, then GTFO.
Yes, I did mean Half-Life 2, but I can't be arsed to edit my post again, so :p

With buttsex? :naughty:
I WISH!


Halo is quite medicore and it's true that the only thing going for it is combat, but I for one think that the combat is excellent. I like the weapons system and the enemies and I think they work nicely. If you use your weapons effectivly it is possible to take down even elites and hunters without pouring clips and clips of ammunition into them, which is not true for Halo 2, unfortunatly. They nerfed the weapons and brought in brutes. I hate brutes.
 
Are you kidding me, they have no shields but take like 3-4 hits with an energy sword to kill, a sword described to be able to go through the MJOLNIR armor in the books can't go through a gorilla's skin? Yeah they were a formidable foe but that just kinda annoyed me, lightsaber invincibility is not to be given so easily.
 
Everyone seems to hate Halo 2, yet everyone appears to have played it.

Except for me. I admit I played some H2DM on a friend's Xbox, but that's all. I disliked the weapons and loved the ragdolls (I had never seen ragdolls before, mind you, except for Goldeneye: Rogue Agent which wasn't the best game ever).
 
the G.L.s melee was overpowered tbh, but at least it didn't have the benefit of the lunge. Funny how they died in one needler explosion but take 48938 plasma rifle hits.
 
It wasn't too bad, you know, interesting storyline with Bond influences and all.
 
All Bond games since Goldeneye have gotten progressively worse.

How did we get onto Bond again?
 
GERA is the worst game I have ever played (I didn't pay for it though I borrowed it funnilly enough the friend I borrowed it from didn't want it back I can see why)
 
The manual got leaked on the... Visit Digg.com for more info :)
 
I just finished Halo 2 for the first time yesterday. I like shooting galleries and enjoyed it (I'm also replaying Doom 3 for the 20th time now XD). Haven't there already been videos from Halo 3 out that show a lot more for speculation than that mug shot? All I gather from that shot is that the original assault rifle is back and MCs new suit appears the same as the previous versions despite the upgrade.
 
There's quite a few pictures out from the campaign now. Well, of that one level anyway.
 
Sounds like it's going to be better than Halo 2, at the very least. Which still doesn't say much :p
 
Works for me nubcake :)

Well its an online forum and not a podcast, so you might want to cover your eyes from reading the comments instead of blocking your ears. Which does nothing.

Silly Warbie.
 
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Game design and graphics, anyone? :|
 
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