Halo 3

Thing with Halo has been to finish the campaign and play MP for about 30 minutes before loosing interest. I'm sure the same thing will happen with Halo 3 whenever I bother to go get a copy, possibly months after the initial release knowing my laziness towards consoles.
 
Warbie said:
Well, why do you think it's bashed so much? Why is the hate almost universally found on pc gaming forums?
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I think most PC gamers are generally more disciminating...ESPECIALLY when it comes to shooters...including myself. And, Halo, as some people seem to think, is not the end-all, be-all shooter experience. IMO, definitly not the best shooters EVER made on a console...MP, Golden Eye, and PD have it beat HANDS DOWN. BUT, it's a good game, for sure. Co-op is what keeps me interested for sure. Although, I love most games with a decent co-op mode.

I get annoyed by the people that have never played another shooter except Halo, but, yet, have the balls to insult your tastes when you tell them that better shooters have been made. A lot of Halo-people live in a shooter bubble. This I know for sure...I have friends that have never played Half-Life, HL2 (even for the XBox), Metroid Prime, etc.
 
Lt. Drebin said:
I think most PC gamers are generally more disciminating
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I disagree - they're simply elitist. 'Console gamers not knowing any better' often gets bandied around and that pisses me off. Go to a decent console gaming forum (http://ntsc-uk.domino.org being an example) and you'll find that if anything they're more demanding of quality and more critical.

Lt. Drebin said:
I get annoyed by the people that have never played another shooter except Halo, but, yet, have the balls to insult your tastes when you tell them that better shooters have been made. A lot of Halo-people live in a shooter bubble. This I know for sure...I have friends that have never played Half-Life, HL2 (even for the XBox), Metroid Prime, etc.
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Agreed. They're no different to many 1000s that play CS, though.
 
I don't consider Halo to be the best shooter of all time. I've got much respect for the Half Life games and all the rest of the fantastic shooters out there. What bothers me, though, is when people devide themselves from other games. So it's not to the standards of so-and-so in the blah-blah department of [INSERT GENERIC COMPLAINT HERE], that's no reason to dislike a game. Why have one game, when you can play two? Fact of the matter is, is that whilst people can weigh one games cons against anothers pros, theres always going to be a way to reverse that by vice versa-ing (?) the same arguement with the pros and cons of the other game.

Samon said:
Not until I find the pages wherein I've posted it before. It shouldn't be hard.
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Good, then it's settled then. :thumbs:
 
Warbie said:
I disagree - they're simply elitist. 'Console gamers not knowing any better' often gets bandied around and that pisses me off. Go to a decent console gaming forum (http://ntsc-uk.domino.org being an example) and you'll find that if anything they're more demanding of quality and more critical.
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Well, elitist is a bit harsh. I like my wording better. No one can argue that most of the best shooters of all-time have been PC only. BUT, most of the shit also lands on a PC. I think a fine example...check most reviews of Halo and Halo 2 on the PC...they're very average at best. I and many others refuse to look at Halo in a vaccuum. I do however, plan to greatly enjoy co-op mode. :) Halo and Halo 2 to me are solid 8s. They're just not god-like games as many like to preach.

Warbie said:
Agreed. They're no different to many 1000s that play CS, though.
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LOL...I sure wouldn't argue with that.
 
Goldeneye is so ridiculously overrated it isn't even funny. I still need to play Prime, but I take it you mean the 3d version. I've only got the second one...great game.
 
Samon said:
Goldeneye is so ridiculously overrated it isn't even funny
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Oh no you didn't!

Cast your mind back 10 years. Nothing could touch GE, not even close.

Check out MP when you get the chance. MP2 is great fun, but the original is considerably better.
 
All games age - look at Half Life now. GE lasted years and was pretty much the best thing around untill Perfect Dark came out 3 years later. HL2 could learn a thing or two from Golden Eye.

Lt. Drebin said:
That's almost as bad as Sea's argument that Mario Sunshine was better than Mario 64. :)
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heh, that was doomed from the get go.
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Halo is a solid shooter for the console, but a very mediocre shooter for the PC.

PC's = King of shooters, hands down

Nuff said, close thread
 
Goldeneye was one of the best experiences I've ever had with games. Me and my friends would put on one hit kills and superweapons and play for hours on end. And if you picked odd job you were a ****ing douche.
 
TheDude said:
And if you picked odd job you were a ****ing douche.
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lol, so true.

One shot kills and pistols was the prefered game type with me and friends. Facility was such an awesome map.
 
Warbie said:
Oh no you didn't!

Cast your mind back 10 years. Nothing could touch GE, not even close.

Check out MP when you get the chance. MP2 is great fun, but the original is considerably better.
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Samon never likes any games that most normal people like. :borg::borg::borg::D;:)bonce::imu:
 
Warbie said:
lol, so true.

One shot kills and pistols was the prefered game type with me and friends. Facility was such an awesome map.
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I actually played the game last weekend and I gotta say it lost a bit of its magic. Maybe I've outgrown it.
 
It's just old. I played PD the other week - it looked terrible. FPS never age well.
 
When you're ten years old, even N64 graphics look HD.
 
Warbie said:
It's just old. I played PD the other week - it looked terrible. FPS never age well.
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Boo! Perfect Dark is still awesome. Half-Life is still awesome. It's only the average shooters that don't age well. The classics live forever. Hell, look at Doom...almost 15 years later and the game is still more fun than most FPS games today.
 
It's the frame rate more than anything - it jumps and skips and the average is very low. After years of playing shooters at a smooth rate it kills my eyes going back to PD. It is still one of my favourite fps, but, like pretty much all games, it was by far the better experience at launch.

Doom aged well because it's so simple. A bit like Bomberman, or throwing a tennis ball against a wall. There's nothing to get old.
 
I could see that being in-game, but the graphics look like every other game on the 360, nothing special
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Jealous? :)

Halo is a solid shooter for the console, but a very mediocre shooter for the PC.
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They're are some trade offs. Sometimes, Counter-Strike or Day of Defeat can be more entertaining then most console FPS, even if they're top of the line.

I find that customization is usually what defeats console shooters versus PC Shooters, where thats readily available.

No one can argue that most of the best shooters of all-time have been PC only.
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It depends on who you ask. Me? I still think Quake II was a ****ing blast. On the other hand, so was Perfect Dark (the first one). For me, its whoever can make the best shooter for a given platform. I'll play Halo 2 right alongside of Day of Defeat: Source or Half-Life 2 Deathmatch.
 
I played me some four-player GE yesterday.
After the obligatory Stack with automatics, we moved on to Complex with proximity mines. Good times
 
I love the proximity mines. They were the best "asshole" weapons in the game. Everytime someone got them, they'd just plant in a doorway someone had to go through in order to get to the player with the mines. And if it was a team game, two players would just camp in that area and wait for the others to walk into their death trap, to do it all over again.
 
Sparta said:
I love the proximity mines. They were the best "asshole" weapons in the game. Everytime someone got them, they'd just plant in a doorway someone had to go through in order to get to the player with the mines. And if it was a team game, two players would just camp in that area and wait for the others to walk into their death trap, to do it all over again.
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I always shot the mines before barreling in with a shotgun :D
 
That's why the rifle in Perfect Dark with the secondary mine spotting function was such a good a idea. I had a mate who, once getting ahead in kills in GE, would mine up a doorway and wait for the time to run out. Godamn mofo!

I'd love a new mp fps that focussed on small scale 2 v 2. Loads of weapons, gadgets, gametypes. With such a small number of people you can get away with much more in terms of map. The small toilet in Facility for example - it wouldn't work at all in something like CS, 8 v 8, but with just a couple of mates it made for awesome gun battles. There must be a demand.
 
Warbie said:
That's why the rifle in Perfect Dark with the secondary mine spotting function was such a good a idea. I had a mate who, once getting ahead in kills in GE, would mine up a doorway and wait for the time to run out. Godamn mofo!

I'd love a new mp fps that focussed on small scale 2 v 2. Loads of weapons, gadgets, gametypes. With such a small number of people you can get away with much more in terms of map. The small toilet in Facility for example - it wouldn't work at all in something like CS, 8 v 8, but with just a couple of mates it made for awesome gun battles. There must be a demand.
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Time Splitters 2 style, eh?
 
Always a poor mans GE/PD. I bought them all, enjoyed most, but TS worked best for me as frantic blast everything sessions with lots of bots and a few friends. Too fast paced and hectic for the quality, tense multiplayer Golden Eye boasted. The maps and weapons weren't a patch on GE or PD either.
 
Virus, with three friends and all bots activated, is the meaning of fun. We'd often survive for more than an hour, just playing the same map, all sticking together fighting off wave after wave of relentless flaming enemies. And I'm telling you, when you're getting stormed by monkeys, cardboard robots and, I'm laughing at the thought of it, that calamari :)laugh:) character, it begins to really bore down on your mental strenght. You'd end up dying just because you were in fits of laughter at the sight of this guy with a goldfish for a head running full pelt at you with a grenade launcher.
 
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