Halo Haters?

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Now, I understand that this is a Half-LIfe forum and people aren't really suppose to be talking about other games. But it seems that anytime anyone ever mentions Halo it's in a negative way. Now dont get me wrong I love Half-Life and anything Valve puts out, but i still enjoy the Halo series. I play both games, and man do I like the Half-Life series (Half-Life has better story and emotional moments then halo, so im inclined to enjoy it more, which i very much do) when it comes to Halo it's mostly for the multiplayer though. What are you thoughts?
 
My main point of hatred is the repitetive levels - Halo 3 is not so guilty of this, but the other two were horrible. Assault on the control is one of the worst levels I have ever played in any video game, ever.
 
First two, cut and paste design, shooting gallery combat and lolleriffic ai.

Points to Halo 3 for variation in the environment, less corridor combat and slightly better ai.

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The only thing I like about Halo is the cooperative play. They are worthless to me in every other aspect.
 
What I don't understand is the obsession over them. They aren't bad games, they're mediocre. It's something we've seen a thousand times. So why do they get showered with all these accolades? I'll never understand it.
 
The only thing I ever liked about Halo was the flood, but HL zombies still win by a long shot.

I've only played and beaten Halo 1
 
MiccyNarc said:
What I don't understand is the obsession over them. They aren't bad games, they're mediocre. It's something we've seen a thousand times. So why do they get showered with all these accolades? I'll never understand it.
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Exactly. Half life was, and still is brilliant, because it gives you new content. It doesn't put you up against opponents that blindy wander around and repeat the same damn phrases every time they see you.

The combat in Halo can be fun at times, like any other shooter. But the thing that drops Halo below the bar is that the combat isn't exactly varied. Once you've taken out a few grunts and elites in a hallway while being assisted by useless friendly ai players, you may as well turn the console off and re-sell your game.

Halo two was nothing more than a coninuation of the storyline, in a bad way. How the hell Bungie managed to change the enviroments but keep the same boring combat style is beyond me. It's like playing ping pong on the moon and having the same gravity, it just doesn't make sense. If a hallway fight is as boring as a full scale assault, why bother playing?

Then there is the fanbase. The Halo fanbase is so irritating it actually rivals the CS comminuty, And we all know what they are like.

What bugs me, and probably thousands of other players, is that Halo was nothing more than a great book turned into an average game. It simply doesn't deserve the hype.
 
I agree with Miccy and Smoke.

Halo is a generic, mediocre shooter that doesn't deserve my attention, nor the vast majority of the attention and praise it gets. It's not a bad game, but it's not remotely close to being a great one. There are many other games far more worth my time, and other people miss out on them because they're too busy suffocating themselves with Halo all the time.

Also, I worked at a LAN center for more than a year, where Halo 2 was by far the most popular game (we had PCs and consoles, the latter of which were more popular). I cannot even begin to describe how unbelievably irritating it is to listen to morons who know nothing about good video games tell me about how Halo is the best game ever, and it's got revolutionary amazing gameplay, and hey what's that box up there that says Half-Life, isn't that some strategy game or something?
 
It's just really mediocre. Alright, but not worth my money. And the online play just annoys the hell out of me. Half because of the community and half because I'm not a big fan of console shooters. I'll play it every now and then at a LAN party, but that's about it.

Best thing about Halo is Red vs Blue.
 
Another thing I dislike is the unrealalistic weapons. I get that Synths arent that real, but this is something I've overheard.
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"Yeah, Halo's so cool! You get a giant hammer that deflects rockets!"
 
It's sad that Halo could have been a fantastic game, well on par with Half life. But they had to made it so damn generic, and cartoony. It's like walking round a nursery school playing guns with toddlers.

It has a great storyline, and they broke it by failing to understand what makes something epic, awesome, or even pretty.

Failures, imo.
 
The only good thing about Halo are having 8-way fights between your friends.

The campaign gameplay is so repetative that it becomes a chore to complete some levels.

Loads of Xbox owners upgraded to the 360 simply because of Halo 3. There are not many games out there which would pursuade me to upgrade my PC and the ones that would, would have to be incredible. Halo 3 is definetly not incredible.
 
Also it's a pretty ridiculously simple game. I have played Halo PC a few times, Halo 1 on Xbox twice, Halo 2 twice... all at least a year or more ago. I went over to my friend's room and they were playing Halo 3, so I played a round with them, having never played it before, and I beat them all... 20-7-4-2.
 
I think we can all agree that pacman is harder than Halo.

And more involving.
 
I ****ing hate Pac-Man. I honestly can't beat the first level. :(
 
I've always despised the hype behind Halo and its fan base in general, yet I've been playing an awful lot of Halo 3 at my mate's flat over the past month or so and I think its a lot more entertaining than its predecessors. The single player campaign was good fun to play co-operatively and some of the level designs this time round were a lot more creative (the scarab battles were pretty epic, even though they were easy). Of course it was nothing revolutionary as so many Halo fan boys make every instalment out to be, but it was still very entertaining, especially when played with company.

tl;dr - Halo hype and fanbase = moronic, Halo 3 was surprisingly fun to play with others
 
Well let me name off a few of the many thousands of reasons why Halo sucks ass and HL rocks.

Halo

A:some how even though it was destoyed in the last game they always manage to find yet another Halo
B:the weapon limit i mean come on only 2 weapons? thats like......Gordon only being able to use a crowbar and a smg or something and have to switch them out every time theres a new weapon
C:the same monsters every single time i mean theres never anything new anymore.Mabey a few more cars and a new gun and a few more skins to choose from. THATS IT


There are many thousands of other reasons but i shall not name them off.


HL-HL2-HL2ep.1-HL2ep.2

A:the wide variety of weapons.such as the AR2.now is there ANYTHING like the AR2 or as awesome as the AR2 in Halo? not even close
B:the HUGE variety of enemys to fight. i can name off like 5 right off the top of my head in a instant.I doubt they even HAVE 5 diffrent kinds of enemys in Halo.
C:granted less vehicles but there faster and (at times) way more effective.


And also for this another few thousand reasons buuuut again i shall not name them off.
 
Inkheart449 said:
Well let me name off a few of the many thousands of reasons why Halo sucks ass and HL rocks.
A:some how even though it was destoyed in the last game they always manage to find yet another Halo
B:the weapon limit i mean come on only 2 weapons? thats like......gordon only being able to use a crowbar and a smg or something and have to switch them out every time theres a new weapon
C:the same monsters every single time i mean theres never anythin gnew anymore.Mabey a few more cars and a new gun and a few more skins to choose from. THATS IT


There are many thousands of other reasons but i shall not name them off
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Those are retarded reasons. There have always been 7 Halos, the weapon limit enhances the gameplay (would Counter-Strike be better if you could carry all the weapons at once?), and the HL2 episodes added a total of one new enemy type so that's pretty stupid too.

Halo is good, if terribly mediocre - but not for the reasons you just listed.
 
i agree that it gets way to much more hype then it deserves. thier are so many more deserving games out there. sadly the consoles noobs revolve around halo. i can understand if they cant get a decent pc or have a pc at all, but still thier are more games on console.
 
Ok Stigmata mabey a couple diffrent reasons but i make a valid point dont i?
I mean i would HATE to have to decide weather to drop the Buckshot or the Crossbow for the Grav Gun.
 
the entire reason behind Halo's success is the multiplayer
If it weren't for Xbox live,Halo would've collapsed,IMO,the folks at Bungie didn't mean for Halo to be what its become
thats why
you destroy the Halo ring in the original Halo,the marines never knew there were more till Halo 2
,and the only reason as to why they made Halo 2 and Halo 3 was because fans were requesting more multiplayer maps,releasing new maps one at a time worked for a while,but it had become necassary to add more weapons and thus,Halo 2 was born,but because Halo 2 ended in a cliffhangar,Halo 3 was also a necassary installment
 
I couldn't ever enjoy the game. I was bored to tears. And I thought it was just because I'm a mouse/keyboard guy, so I bought it for PC. Worst $20 I've ever spent. *That's including the time I payed for that cheap corner hooker that gave me the clap* I played it, tried to enjoy it. I just felt like I was playing some run of the mill usual FPS with no thought behind it.
 
BowSniper said:
the entire reason behind Halo's success is the multiplayer
If it weren't for Xbox live,Halo would've collapsed,IMO,the folks at Bungie didn't mean for Halo to be what its become
thats why
you destroy the Halo ring in the original Halo,the marines never knew there were more till Halo 2
,and the only reason as to why they made Halo 2 and Halo 3 was because fans were requesting more multiplayer maps,releasing new maps one at a time worked for a while,but it had become necassary to add more weapons and thus,Halo 2 was born,but because Halo 2 ended in a cliffhangar,Halo 3 was also a necassary installment
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Actually, that's bullshit. the monitor describes the "others" following suit, right before he tries to kill you for the index.

There were always other rings.
 
Halo is actually quite fun, and the combat is great on legendary. The main problem is the attention it gets; the game has nothing to it other than shooting enemies. There's actually nothing else to the gameplay. It's a shooting gallery through and through, and as such it doesn't deserve a jot of the praise it gets.
 
Smoke said:
Actually, that's bullshit. the monitor describes the "others" following suit, right before he tries to kill you for the index.

There were always other rings.
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this is true,but why did none of the marines know?
other then the Oricle and yourself,noone spoke of other halo rings
also,if the series ended at Halo 1,then you can assume that destroying one would decimate the covenants chances of ever going on the Great Journey to join the Forerunners
 
Pulse said:
I've always despised the hype behind Halo and its fan base in general, yet I've been playing an awful lot of Halo 3 at my mate's flat over the past month or so and I think its a lot more entertaining than its predecessors. The single player campaign was good fun to play co-operatively and some of the level designs this time round were a lot more creative (the scarab battles were pretty epic, even though they were easy). Of course it was nothing revolutionary as so many Halo fan boys make every instalment out to be, but it was still very entertaining, especially when played with company.

tl;dr - Halo hype and fanbase = moronic, Halo 3 was surprisingly fun to play with others
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Truth. Single-player co-op is the game's only true redeeming feature... but then, it's still not redeeming. Also it seems like co-op play is pretty fun no matter what game you're playing...
CyberPitz said:
I couldn't ever enjoy the game. I was bored to tears. And I thought it was just because I'm a mouse/keyboard guy, so I bought it for PC. Worst $20 I've ever spent. *That's including the time I payed for that cheap corner hooker that gave me the clap* I played it, tried to enjoy it. I just felt like I was playing some run of the mill usual FPS with no thought behind it.
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HAHAHA me too. I didn't buy it, actually, but I tried very hard to appreciate Halo PC playing it at work. No dice.
 
It's nothing I haven't said a hundred times before. You just went and ignored the negative bit. :p
 
Most of the "hatin'" is that Halo is severely overrated by fan-boys, magazines, etc. If you compare it to hundreds of FPS already available for the PC at the time and years earlier, it's well below "mediocre."

The single-player was horrendously bad with extremely repetitive levels and nothing new to offer gameplay. The only thing that's actually good about the game, and the sole reason why it because so popular, is because the multiplayer is a simple effective way to sit down with some friends in a Dorm room and blast eachother away. (like Goldeneye). Combine that with the complete lack of good FPS titles for the XboX (or any titles at all at the time) it's pretty easy to see why it's popularity took off.

If you like it, fine, but saying it's anything close to the best game ever is a huge stretch from the perspective of a PC gamer.
 
I haven't played Halo 2 or 3, but the first Halo was brilliant, especially the multiplayer.
 
I think Halo had a good storyline and was fun to play. I don't think it's the best game ever, nor had the best storyline ever, to be sure. As was mentioned before, it apparently got a bad rap from a lot of fans touting its merits (although I have yet to see this - I see more anti-Halo fanboys actually). I don't buy the argument that its levels were repetitve in a bad way, but that's not a discussion for this thread.
 
I have had a lot of fun with Halo. It's a good game, now while I would much rather take a game like Mass Effect over it any day, it deserves it's place. Bow, you do realize the first Halo didn't have Xbox Life support, right? Halo 2 was the first to use Live in the Halo series, besides the PC version. The 2 weapon limit is called Encumberance. Yes, it would suck if you could only pick 2 weapons in HL2, but it makes it THAT much tactical. "What will I fight up ahead? Zombies? Should I take the shotgun? Or Combine? Should I take the AR2? Typically, I'm sure you would keep the crowbar as an extra weapon besides those, but it makes the gameplay a lot more tactical to an otherwise boring game. "I have a mauler and he has a plasma rifle, what should I do?"
And the gravity hammer ****ing rocks.
 
sorry,I have the demo on PC,and there is multiplayer,I kinda assumed that it was on xbox live too
 
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