how long will USA remain..

The EU is not in a arms race with any one and they are very capable of building a big ass army if NEEDED TO, they have no superpower threatening them like the Sovies with the USA. Also why build a big army if they have the USA to do every thing, an army cost money to minted and the EU dos not need a big army now. They are just keeping up and making new military technologies, thats the true key of the game. They can always raise an big army?

I see China and the EU on the on a quick horizon? Soon with the USA?

I agree with you here. Come to think of it, perhaps US is doing most of the dirty work for us Europeans :cheese: . It reminds me of Japan and it's low military expenditures in the xx century, which were one of the main reasons why their country developed so much. None of that arms race or anything simmiliar occured there.
 
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Well in that way of thinking, I guess you can add me in your list.


I never said it was a MENTAL disorder, I just said it was a disorder or a type of disorder like a bad habit. Yes it is a choice of living but thats how some bad habits starts or a disorder. Humans are creators of habit.

You want evidence? YOU WANT EVIDENCE? LOL hay its out their I never rite bull. Do I have to look it up for you? But ok, if you want me too? Look up the 1960s The Sex revolution. Yes every one passed or spread dieses but it was manly the Homosexuals and bisexuals.

The USA has the most STDs of all industrial nations (The last time I heard). I took sociology and they talked about the 1960s and yes they gave info about this. We had debates as well. Ether some of you people are ignorant and do not know your history very well or just having whish full thinking?

(Now people KEY WORD industrial nations)


Any ways back on topic

The EU is not in a arms race with any one and they are very capable of building a big ass army if NEEDED TO, they have no superpower threatening them like the Sovies with the USA. Also why build a big army if they have the USA to do every thing, an army cost money to minted and the EU dos not need a big army now. They are just keeping up and making new military technologies, thats the true key of the game. They can always raise an big army?

I see China and the EU on the on a quick horizon? Soon with the USA?

That's nice, but you're supposed to provide sources, rather than saying "The last I heard..."

Also, what's the point in this "fact" :
The USA has the most STDs of all industrial nations (The last time I heard).

Even if you assume that is true, since all industrialised nations are even more accepting of gays than the US, and possibly more promiscuous than the US, this fact would be counter-intuative to your point.

Also, the fact that you talked about the 1960s in sociology class once does not make you an authority on the subject. "They gave info" is not a convincing arguement and neither is saying you had debates and that everyone is ignorant. In fact, I put it to you sir, that you are ignorant.

So instead of spewing biggoted nonsence, provide some evidence for your claims. That is, unless they are bogus?
 
KIROV, NO

He took part in debates. He obviously knows what he's talking about. You don't stand a chance against his fury! In all its unsourced, mentally dwarfed glory. Oh the horror!
 
That's nice, but you're supposed to provide sources, rather than saying "The last I heard..."

Also, what's the point in this "fact" :

Even if you assume that is true, since all industrialised nations are even more accepting of gays than the US, and possibly more promiscuous than the US, this fact would be counter-intuative to your point.

Also, the fact that you talked about the 1960s in sociology class once does not make you an authority on the subject. "They gave info" is not a convincing arguement and neither is saying you had debates and that everyone is ignorant. In fact, I put it to you sir, that you are ignorant.

So instead of spewing biggoted nonsence, provide some evidence for your claims. That is, unless they are bogus?

My sociology class talked about the 1960s much more then just ones.

Kirvman did you read a word The Sex revolution? Do you know what that was? Well do you? I can tell you in a few words? But its more then that. Hear it goes. "If it feels good do it." Think about the words, I just put a week or two of studding in a few words of a quote.

Ok Kirvman look at the 1960s be for then the USA had the least STDs in the world or one of the least lesser then Europe or any were ells not shore about Canada. After The Sex revolution , because most of we Americans just gang bang each other that's when we started to have an increase of STDs.


Dude I never rite bullshit but if you do not believe me then look it up YOUR SELF! BUT OK JUST TO WIN THIS DAM argument I will fine you a sources its only far. And were your source what you just clamed?

It's a little research and IF by some how IF I'm wrong then I will be A MAN and admit to being wrong. This will take some time ok so Ill but some shit up later.

Biggoted? What dos this has to do with that? Homosexuality and bisexuality are not a race or a religion but a way of life dude. Dude if a person is Homosexual or bisexual its their biasness not mine. I?m just say that its not meant to be, I?m not saying that?s a bad person, yes the person can be a good person.

But some thing is wrong if a man dress like a woman? That's even worse. Think if a cat tring to be a duck, well some thing hear is not rite. Up is up down is down. But hey we are all Human and we do not know every thing so that's way we have debates like this. I have to admit you put a good one.

My point in this fact is its not meant to be, that's way their a man and a woman.

I agree with you here. Come to think of it, perhaps US is doing most of the dirty work for us Europeans :cheese: . It reminds me of Japan and it's low military expenditures in the xx century, which were one of the main reasons why their country developed so much. None of that arms race or anything simmiliar occured there.

Yep we are doing most of the dirty work, so way build a big army that they do not need rite now that cost money and reassures to maintain. Use that same money and reassures to upgrade and stuff.

True about Japan but unlike Japan the EU is using the money and reassures to upgrade the military. I mean they have a new heavy Italian Tank like the US.'s M1 but it goes 65 miles per hour, and The Germans made a new mobile alary that's the best in the world rite now called Panzerhaubitze 2000. I do not remaber what's the new Italian tank was called.
 
Pro Tip: Type coherently if you actually want reciprocal communication with other people over the internet.

It's not his job to do the research for you. You need to supply sources and integrate their information into the body of your argument. You're just being half-assed here. I don't even know what the words "Sex Revolution" have to do with homosexuality itself, but you're apparently content to just bleat it out, expecting some magical link to conjure itself. Nor do I understand what the hell bias has to do with sexual orientation.

Taking a Sociology course does not make you an expert or even remotely qualified to speak on a subject if all evidence of such education is missing.
 
Ok. Right. Here goes.

Roman Legion, Walter, every person on this planet: You are entitled to an opinion. However, if you start prohibiting people from being who they would like to be, then you are acting wrongly. If you voice your opinion, you enter DEBATE MODE. In DEBATE MODE, you have to have LINKS to SITES or SCANS of ARTICLES of MAGAZINES or whatever that you can base your arguments on. If you do not go through the tiny effort to do this, we will not respect you.

Next up: Involvement:

If someone prohibits you in doing something that is NOT HARMFUL to anyone (not even yourself), then you are allowed to do that action. However, if you DO HARM someone in any way whatsoever, you are acting wrongly. This is also the other way around: If someone does something that doesn't prohibit you from living your life,

LEAVE.
THEM.
THE FUCK.
ALONE.
 
Ok. Right. Here goes.

Roman Legion, Walter, every person on this planet: You are entitled to an opinion. However, if you start prohibiting people from being who they would like to be, then you are acting wrongly. If you voice your opinion, you enter DEBATE MODE. In DEBATE MODE, you have to have LINKS to SITES or SCANS of ARTICLES of MAGAZINES or whatever that you can base your arguments on. If you do not go through the tiny effort to do this, we will not respect you.

Next up: Involvement:

If someone prohibits you in doing something that is NOT HARMFUL to anyone (not even yourself), then you are allowed to do that action. However, if you DO HARM someone in any way whatsoever, you are acting wrongly. This is also the other way around: If someone does something that doesn't prohibit you from living your life,

LEAVE.
THEM.
THE FUCK.
ALONE.


well said.
 
Biggoted? What dos this has to do with that? Homosexuality and bisexuality are not a race or a religion but a way of life dude. Dude if a person is Homosexual or bisexual its their biasness not mine. I?m just say that its not meant to be, I?m not saying that?s a bad person, yes the person can be a good person.

But some thing is wrong if a man dress like a woman? That's even worse. Think if a cat tring to be a duck, well some thing hear is not rite. Up is up down is down. But hey we are all Human and we do not know every thing so that's way we have debates like this. I have to admit you put a good one.

My point in this fact is its not meant to be, that's way their a man and a woman.

OBJECTION.

You know what's also not meant to be? Medicine. Technically, naturally, no man, woman nor child should ever survive a disease with outside age. That ****s up with Evolution and all that jazz.

If all we listened to was what's "Meant to be" a lot of people - a LOT MORE PEOPLE - would have died by now.

What's meant to be is not always what's right.
 
OBJECTION.

You know what's also not meant to be? Medicine. Technically, naturally, no man, woman nor child should ever survive a disease with outside age. That ****s up with Evolution and all that jazz.

If all we listened to was what's "Meant to be" a lot of people - a LOT MORE PEOPLE - would have died by now.

What's meant to be is not always what's right.

Well that's different what I was saying very different... WE have mines so we can use them. That's way we Humans are different from animals. Even some animals eat some type of things to get bettor. And your point? What I just saying was very different and you know what I was saying.



Pro Tip: Type coherently if you actually want reciprocal communication with other people over the internet.

It's not his job to do the research for you. You need to supply sources and integrate their information into the body of your argument. You're just being half-assed here. I don't even know what the words "Sex Revolution" have to do with homosexuality itself, but you're apparently content to just bleat it out, expecting some magical link to conjure itself. Nor do I understand what the hell bias has to do with sexual orientation.

Taking a Sociology course does not make you an expert or even remotely qualified to speak on a subject if all evidence of such education is missing.

Absinthe True but that means I have some thing called knowledge some of it to make a argument. Just to make my self clear I have nothing agents any one or all of you or even Homosexuals but if I truly did I would not be hear talking to all of you.

Anyways were is all of your souses you to tell me other wise? Were is it? Were? Were? Nope I see not one by any of you people. See the game you are playing to me.

And when I have TIME I will supply sources, but rite now I have to go to work? And do other things for School?

Ok. Right. Here goes.

Roman Legion, Walter, every person on this planet: You are entitled to an opinion. However, if you start prohibiting people from being who they would like to be, then you are acting wrongly. If you voice your opinion, you enter DEBATE MODE. In DEBATE MODE, you have to have LINKS to SITES or SCANS of ARTICLES of MAGAZINES or whatever that you can base your arguments on. If you do not go through the tiny effort to do this, we will not respect you.

Next up: Involvement:

If someone prohibits you in doing something that is NOT HARMFUL to anyone (not even yourself), then you are allowed to do that action. However, if you DO HARM someone in any way whatsoever, you are acting wrongly. This is also the other way around: If someone does something that doesn't prohibit you from living your life,

LEAVE.
THEM.
THE FUCK.
ALONE.

And yes in my class we talked about Bigots as well.
I personally have nothing agencies the person being Homosexual or Bisexual people are people what can I say its their own thing. I was just putting what I think. That's not mean I hate them, I do not know what you guys are thinking? Just because others or I do not like an act that dos not mean they should be condemned. I was just simply saying it was not meant to be that's it nothing ells. This was not "gay" bashing I do not like that, a true Christine would not do such acts ageist a person but only teach them and help them, that's it other then that their on their own its their life ANDI KNOWE THAT. I know no one is perfect no one that's why we are Humans. Coming to religion, do I think a Homosexual can go to heaven; I think yes, if they're a good person. Why not? Others can rite? So I say why not?

The way I see a Bigot is a person that dos not give rites to others and a person that harms others just because or what ever reason. I am not like that I think people should have rites.
I do not know if we should continue this debate. It looks to me some people are toooo sensitive and I do not what to give a wrong expression, I'm not like that, and I rely truly mean no harm to any one. So I am sorry if I some how offended some one but I am not hear to cause havoc.

And besides this is off topic?


LOL looks like my Legion got over ran… LOL

Back on topic


I agree with you here. Come to think of it, perhaps US is doing most of the dirty work for us Europeans :cheese: . It reminds me of Japan and it's low military expenditures in the xx century, which were one of the main reasons why their country developed so much. None of that arms race or anything simmiliar occured there.

Yep we are doing most of the dirty work, so way build a big army that they do not need rite now that cost money and reassures to maintain. Use that same money and reassures to upgrade and stuff.

True about Japan but unlike Japan the EU is using the money and reassures to upgrade the military. I mean they have a new heavy Italian Tank like the US.'s M1 but it goes 65 miles per hour, and The Germans made a new mobile alary that's the best in the world rite now called Panzerhaubitze 2000. I do not remaber what's the new Italian tank was called.

Well got to go now. bye.
 
what the hell is a souse?

and for gods sakes man rite is not a word ..it's right or write ...and would it kill you to do a spell check?


roman legion said:
I have some thing called knowledge

sorry from what I've seen that's just not true
 
Anyways were is all of your souses you to tell me other wise? Were is it? Were? Were? Nope I see not one by any of you people. See the game you are playing to me.

It's called burden of... never mind. Just forget it.
 
It's called burden of... never mind. Just forget it.
My thought process exactly.

Roman Legion, you win, I have been observing this thread and you have made the best argument.

All gays will be deported immediately, you have made the world a safer place. Now that your job is done there is no need to come back. God speed, mr. president.
 
Well that's different what I was saying very different... WE have mines so we can use them. That's way we Humans are different from animals. Even some animals eat some type of things to get bettor. And your point? What I just saying was very different and you know what I was saying.

a) Minds.

b) My point is that just because it's "unnatural" doesn't mean that it's wrong.

Your point was that it was "unnatural", therefore it was wrong. That's incorrect.
 
My thought process exactly.

Roman Legion, you win, I have been observing this thread and you have made the best argument.

All gays will be deported immediately, you have made the world a safer place. Now that your job is done there is no need to come back. God speed, mr. president.

MWHEhehehe! mwuaAHAHahA! MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :naughty: Roman Legion for president
 
My thought process exactly.

Roman Legion, you win, I have been observing this thread and you have made the best argument.

All gays will be deported immediately, you have made the world a safer place. Now that your job is done there is no need to come back. God speed, mr. president.


Dear God I’m not Bush! I never said they should be deported. Do not put words in my mouth!! I’m not that way! I now THEIR HUMAN TOO! WE ARE NOT PERFECT, NO ONE IS!


a) Minds.

b) My point is that just because it's "unnatural" doesn't mean that it's wrong.

Your point was that it was "unnatural", therefore it was wrong. That's incorrect.

That was only one but not my mean point! My mean point is that’s it is not a healthy life style… Yes it dos not harm any one, but so dos stealing. But it dos in fact help spred Aids, they have the most Aids and STDs…


Just look it up for you self. Start reading sh#* for your self!
I do not have to do it for you.

“The Sexual Revolution, 1960-1980”:

“The sexual revolution also encountered obstacles of another sort: sexually transmitted diseases (STD). The diseases spread by sex are numerous and ancient: gonorrhea, syphilis, genital warts, genital herpes, hepatitis B. Starting in the late 1970s, there were a growing number of reports about STD. Both Time and Newsweek produced cover stories on herpes.

The gay male communities in particular were swept by waves of gonorrhea, syphilis, and Hepatitis B. The discovery of an AIDS epidemic among gay men in the early 1980s provoked a major crisis in the gay community and its sexual politics. Medical researchers and gay leaders struggled to find ways of stopping the epidemic without completely excluding all sexual activity.”

Hear let me save you the time. I can tell you in a few words. But its more then that. Hear it goes. "If it feels good do it." Think about the words, I just put a week or two of studding in a few words in a quote. But hey, its your life, do what ever. All I was doing is giving you my $2.00 hear that’s all. I’m not forcing any one to do any thing, you choose what you want to do, that dos not mean we are to be enemies, because we are not.
 
Dear God I?m not Bush! I never said they should be deported. Do not put words in my mouth!! I?m not that way! I now THEIR HUMAN TOO! WE ARE NOT PERFECT, NO ONE IS!




That was only one but not my mean point! My mean point is that?s it is not a healthy life style? Yes it dos not harm any one, but so dos stealing. But it dos in fact help spred Aids, they have the most Aids and STDs?


Just look it up for you self. Start reading sh#* for your self!
I do not have to do it for you.

?The Sexual Revolution, 1960-1980?:

?The sexual revolution also encountered obstacles of another sort: sexually transmitted diseases (STD). The diseases spread by sex are numerous and ancient: gonorrhea, syphilis, genital warts, genital herpes, hepatitis B. Starting in the late 1970s, there were a growing number of reports about STD. Both Time and Newsweek produced cover stories on herpes.

The gay male communities in particular were swept by waves of gonorrhea, syphilis, and Hepatitis B. The discovery of an AIDS epidemic among gay men in the early 1980s provoked a major crisis in the gay community and its sexual politics. Medical researchers and gay leaders struggled to find ways of stopping the epidemic without completely excluding all sexual activity.?

Hear let me save you the time. I can tell you in a few words. But its more then that. Hear it goes. "If it feels good do it." Think about the words, I just put a week or two of studding in a few words in a quote. But hey, its your life, do what ever. All I was doing is giving you my $2.00 hear that?s all. I?m not forcing any one to do any thing, you choose what you want to do, that dos not mean we are to be enemies, because we are not.

I won't deny that a gay lifestyle at one point did cause an increased spread of AIDs and STDs. Does it still now? Prove it.

Your last paragraph... i'm thinking about those words, and the relevence is not quite reaching me. Who said the quote? Who is supposed to be saying the quote? Is it you? The gay community? What is the context of this quote?
 
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