I Am So Pissed

[63]

Uh, this has nothing to do with Valve, it's your hardware config in some place, because I have a 6600GT and can play at stable ~60 FPS on high during intense action scenes

The 6600GT is a mighty fine card.

 

[Pesmerga]

I have a 5600 fx. I can handle HL2, although my frame rates vary from 20 to 40.

Between Nvidia and Ati, if you're really concerned about the couple extra better looking pixels, get the x800xt. If you're concerned about buying something you shouldn't have, tough.

 

[CyberPitz]

Geez I get 40 fps and I have no problems...people are just too needy sometimes ;(

 

[epmode]

there is so much bad information on visible framerates in this thread, it makes my head spin. suffice to say that there *is* a visible difference between a steady 30 fps and 60 fps AND 120 fps (though the latter isn't as immediately distinguishible from 60.)

 

[CREMATOR666]

As long as you can play it, it's fine

 

[CriYam]

Anything above 30 is the same for most humans.

That is a myth.

The fps you need depends on what you are viewing and it varies from person to person.

To the person who started this thread:

Does your game appear choppy or slow?
Do your eyes strain or do you get headaches after playing an extended period?

If not then I wouldn't worry about your fps.

 

[czrsink]

Yeah, Cremator's right. I've got HL2 running on my Centrino laptop, using just an Intel Extreme 2 chipset...it runs at about 25 fps in 800 x 600, but then, so what - as long as it's playable, right?

There's definitely something non-hardware related going on with that system though, which could be sorted out with all the suggestions mentioned (defrag, scandisk etc). Although I'd be delighted with 60FPS at high details settings.

 

[CREMATOR666]

Actually Gabe once mentioned that he'll try to make HL2 look and play as acceptable as possible even on a low-end PC in your grandma's house. Dont know if that's true...

 

[Lemonking]

Ok...I've been reading this and there's a few things that I don't get. First of all, 60-70 frames/second with all settings on high is nothing to get mad about. In fact, that's pretty damn good. Second, I've got the exact same graphics card as you, with a slightly faster processor (you said you had it oc'd to 2.9, I've got a 3.0) and less than half the RAM (768mb) and I get roughly 88 frames/second.... Maybe you should try defragmenting your hard drive, that usually helps, especially when it's been a long time since it's been done. Try running disk cleanup, scanning for spyware...The problem might just be that there's so many other programs running in the background that it's overloading the cpu and slowing down the game to a mere 60-70 frames per second.... If that doesn't help any then I don't know what to say except try, somehow..to endure such un-playable slide-shows...as that.

dude AA an AF I have them shut off and still I get low fps

 

[Lemonking]

well guys after all this I gues im gonna take my PC to a Shop or something

 

[czrsink]

Yeah, something's not quite right. Have you tried running a scan for Spyware etc? Viruses etc?

 

[Sanguinus]

I'm running an AMD 64 3000+ with 512 MB DDR400 RAM and an Elba GeForce 6800, and I get just over 60 fps most of the time. Thats just the card. ATi cards always were going to perform relatively better.

 

[Harmless]

Framerate doesn't matter as long as the game runs and looks good. A number that you can barely notice shouldn't mean that much to you.
Anyway, do a search on Half-Life 2 to bring up graphics card information at
http://www.firingsquad.com/
And as for your other problem...
http://www.englishforums.com/

 

[Sid Burn]

Hmm... look in teh bright side... atleast you can still play it at a higher FPS compared to mine.

 

[ZoFreX]

1) Half-life 2 is PROCESSOR LIMITED. That's the most likely cause of your problems.
2) 60 degrees seems warm by most standards, but is within bounds for the latest cards.
3) The 5900's run at higher framerates that your pc because the game will force them to much lower graphics.
4) Try defragging, closing all other software, and installing the latest patches from valve.
5) 60-70 frames a second is just fine anyway.
6) Sudden thought: is v-synch turned on??

 

[bvasgm]

dude AA an AF I have them shut off and still I get low fps

How is 60 fps low??? :dozey:

 

[Sid Burn]

How is 60 fps low??? :dozey:

yeah... even 30FPS is fast enough.

 

[Seppo]

I've read that fighter pilots are able to see differences in frame rates as high as 200 fps. But the funny thing is, I read it here when there was a thread on the same subject...

 

[Smooothie]

I think I remember reading somewhere that HL2 is similar to D3 in that it uses newer & advanced shaders that previous games did not, so it's not recommended that you OC your hardware, because you may receive undesirable results.

Also, have you tried not unlocking the extra 4 pipes through RivaTuner on your 6800 OC? They're not active for a reason, & although some people are able to activate them without a prob, if they're in fact faulty, you're only making your card perform worse or more inefficiently, because now it's producing more rendering errors.

I would suggest what the others said as well, defrag your HDD, also try the newer official 66.93 drivers from Nvidia. It's also possible that you have some leftover driver files from your previous 9600, so you may want to uninstall the vidcard & run a utility like driver cleaner to ensure all remnants of any previous driver installations are gone before reinstalling.

Also, you may want to turn off any overclocking you have to ensure that your system isn't overheating. Any idea what the temps are like in your case? If your vidcard gets too hot whle running, it'll throttle itself to protect itself from damage. The same goes for your CPU. :thumbs:

 

[Deadly200]

Well i don't know i get great FPS with my geforce 6800 better then what i had on my 9800 xt

 

[.Jezus.]

maybe I should take my PC to a shop and let them check if soemthings broke or maybe I need a nu fan or something
ntw good nite see ya all tomarrow

Just format and install all drivers again, that should do the trick

 

[Shady Milkman]

1) Take grade 3 English
2) In the case of the 6800OC, you could try researching video cards and their performance in your favourite games BEFORE buying them.
3) For the GeForce FX 5600's...well, let's just say your friends deserve every low framerate they get.

this is probably the dumbest thing i've heard in a long time. try doing more research yourself... have an nvidia geforce fx 5600 ultra, a 1.7ghz processor, and 512 megs of ddr pc2100 ram. my game runs at a constant 60 fps and never experiences slow down. i think if you knew the inner workings of the source engine (scales down polygons to prevent slowdown) you would realize how dumb your statement was.

 

[kingthebadger]

learn to spell u ****ing turd!!!!!!!!!!


















just kidding LEMONKING

 

[Acert93]

60 celsius is probably too hot. although its not over the limits a normal card should operate at 40-50 celsius. (100 celsius are required to boil water, ur more than halfway there to just about melting ur gfx card)

:|

Every chip is different. There is not such thing as a "normal card".

e.g. My P4 should not exceed 60C and should not run higher than 55C for prolonged periods of time.

My 6800GT on the other hand runs at 55-60C idle and will hit 80C or higher at load if the case is closed. The chip can handle over 100C at load. (The warning point set by the manufacturer is 120C).

Every chip is designed differently. This is why Intel P4 chips scale really high, but clock-for-clock Pentium M and AMD chips are faster. Video cards, due to their intensive parallel nature do not scale as high because they have a lot of transistors being utilized at one moment.

The best bet on the 6800OC is to check around to see the proper operating temperature. If it is anything like the 6800GT running at 60C is NOTHING and completely normal.

 

[^Ben]

How about you check if the drivers from the old card are still there?

How about you try to clean up your system because judging by your attitude you probably have a crap infested system.

And before you get pissed at valve try sorting stuff out on your end first and stop being such a god damn whiney little kid.

 

[MiccyNarc]

60 Celsius is what my GPU (Geforce 6800 vanilla, with pipes unlocked) was running idle, and my system was fairly stable.

Now I've got 3 fans blowing on it, overclocked it by about 150 Mhz RAM and 75 MHZ core, and it's running at 50 C when running 3dmark 03.

 

[cereal]

What??? 60-70fps during action is bad??? Are you serious? Isn't that fine or am I mssing something...

 

[Fireindaho]

The only things I can think of to help are:

A) use the patch for Directx8 users to get Directx9 reflective water effects. I use it w/my GF4ti and it works great. There's one for CS:S too, look around.

B) Keep in mind that if you are CPU limited in a game(and I think with less than 3ghz for HL2, you are), then popping a high end videocard in there will benefit you little in terms of higher framerate. What you DO get is the ability to run SIMILAR framerates, but at a higher resolution and/or at higher detail settings.

For example, maybe instead of getting 60fps at 1024x768 medium with a 5600, you can run 70fps @ 1280x1024 all settings high with your new card.

That's been my in the past experience anyways. Just getting a new videocard doesn't always equal massive fps increase, the system needs to be balanced.