If Bush wins...

[Sprafa]

If bush ****s up the way I think he could, half of mankind will follow me.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

You know whats funny? Everyone who lives in the United States is missing what you said.

I dont want to destroy the United States, just its old archaic government.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Hence why people dislike bush, and his actions. To say that a war is justified because "wars will happen olol" is stupid.

Well its happened. So what will you do? Hide, Collaberate, or Resist?

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Invading Countries based on lies and misinformation? Hitler was'nt the first one to do this. He is just but one testament to the brutality of man. He's not the only one, and nethire is Bush.

Ok?

Living in a democratic country you have the ability to prevent further murder comitted by YOUR leader. How could you possibly vote for someone who comitted such blatant evil on a world stage?

Or will you continually abuse my knowledge of history TOTALLY avoiding the point i'm trying to make.

 

[NeLi]

Well its happened. So what will you do? Hide, Collaberate, or Resist?

That's not my point. I'm flaming away because people let it happen.

It's just funny to see the USA **** the world, then accidentally **** themselves, and then, when they can't handle it themselves anymore, want the help from the rest of the world.

But enough about that.

Bush suck because he lie, (not just typical political lies; Huge devastating lies as well), and he's responsible for all the people dying in Iraq.

 

[Icarusintel]

That's not my point. I'm flaming away because people let it happen.

It's just funny to see the USA **** the world, then accidentally **** themselves, and then, when they can't handle it themselves anymore, want the help from the rest of the world.

But enough about that.

Bush suck because he lie, (not just typical political lies; Huge devastating lies as well), and he's responsible for all the people dying in Iraq.

Oh yeah, and it's not like we haven't helped all of them enough, all it takes is a simple glance at history, France and Germany should be grateful and willing to help us, but I guess they forgot the past real fast
Blame it all on Bush, couldn't blame any of that on the terrorists killing US soldiers in the country could you, i guess not because we shouldn';t be there right?

 

[NeLi]

Oh yeah, and it's not like we haven't helped all of them enough, all it takes is a simple glance at history, France and Germany should be grateful and willing to help us, but I guess they forgot the past real fast

Bush never helped them, so kick him out. He's done nothing good. Don't try to blame the situation in Iraq on other countries. They considered it to be wrong to invade Iraq, because they thought it would get to messy (and look what happened), and you'll have to respect that. We can't all waste lives and recourses on Americas personal crusades.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Or will you continually abuse my knowledge of history TOTALLY avoiding the point i'm trying to make.

Cite your knowledge as being correct. Give me sources.

Living in a democratic country you have the ability to prevent further murder comitted by YOUR leader. How could you possibly vote for someone who comitted such blatant evil on a world stage?

I was in middleschool when he was voted into office. So I could'nt vote. Therefore, I'am not guilty of him being in office.

 

[Icarusintel]

Bush never helped them, so kick him out. He's done nothing good. Don't try to blame the situation in Iraq on other countries. They considered it to be wrong to invade Iraq, because they thought it would get to messy (and look what happened), and you'll have to respect that. We can't all waste lives and recourses on Americas personal crusades.

we certainly spent enough lives helping france out in WWI and WWII, oh, and lest i forget, Vietnam, why the hell wouldn't they help us, even if they think it's wrong, we helped bail them out, and save their country

 

[NeLi]

we certainly spent enough lives helping france out in WWI and WWII, oh, and lest i forget, Vietnam, why the hell wouldn't they help us, even if they think it's wrong, we helped bail them out, and save their country

Maybe because it's wrong to return favours in human lives. The french population make tha call, not the french leaders. It's a great proof of democracy.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

It's just funny to see the USA **** the world, then accidentally **** themselves, and then, when they can't handle it themselves anymore, want the help from the rest of the world.

Your not watching the correct channel, are you? Change it from the Sci-Fi channel back to CNN or CSPAN. Yes, thats right. CNN or CSPAN.

There yah go.

Bush suck because he lie, (not just typical political lies; Huge devastating lies as well), and he's responsible for all the people dying in Iraq.

I did'nt see Bush fire a missle himself, or behead a prisoner himself. Though he did give the order, he never pulled the trigger. Though he did warn others to leave Iraq, he never cut heads off.

I associate those evils with the ones who pull the triggers (Soldiers), or the ones who physically cut off the heads (Terrorists).

 

[K e r b e r o s]

We can't all waste lives and recourses on Americas personal crusades.

It was'nt my Crusade, because I did'nt vote for it. Thanks for generalizing on America, ass. Now your just like Bush generalizing on the common Middle-Easterner.

 

[NeLi]

It was'nt my Crusade, because I did'nt vote for it. Thanks for generalizing on America, ass. Now your just like Bush generalizing on the common Middle-Easterner.

Meh, lets make it clear then: When I say America or USA when talking about the wars they're involved in, I actually mean their government and other fools with actual power, not the general population.

 

[Icarusintel]

Maybe because it's wrong to return favours in human lives. The french population make tha call, not the french leaders. It's a great proof of democracy.

Yeah, one hell of an isolated democracy seeking to live in the past, real great one there

 

[Icarusintel]

Meh, lets make it clear then: When I say America or USA when talking about the wars they're involved in, I actually mean their government and other fools with actual power, not the general population.

Maybe you don;t quite understand how a representative government works

 

[NeLi]

Your not watching the correct channel, are you? Change it from the Sci-Fi channel back to CNN or CSPAN. Yes, thats right. CNN or CSPAN.

There yah go.

I'm pretty stupid, so could you rephrase that?

I did'nt see Bush fire a missle himself, or behead a prisoner himself. Though he did give the order, he never pulled the trigger. Though he did warn others to leave Iraq, he never cut heads off.

I associate those evils with the ones who pull the triggers (Soldiers), or the ones who physically cut off the heads (Terrorists).

lol... He made misstakes, caused a shitstorm, and deserves to be put out of office. It's that simple. I don't really care who you think is evil or not.

 

[Mr-Fusion]

I did'nt see Bush fire a missle himself, or behead a prisoner himself. Though he did give the order, he never pulled the trigger. Though he did warn others to leave Iraq, he never cut heads off.

I associate those evils with the ones who pull the triggers (Soldiers), or the ones who physically cut off the heads (Terrorists).

Wow.

wow...

None of that would have ever happened had Bush not signed the paper to invade. He knew the evil that is involved in war. All the evil is traced back to his decision. He bears the responsibility for the death of over 10,000 Iraqi civillians, over 1000 American troops.

The leader is the one with blood on their hands.

 

[NeLi]

Maybe you don;t quite understand how a representative government works

Well, I believe it to be a manipulative government, who don't really represent the actual opinions of the American people. So when I flame away, I often never talk about the american people themselves. They're no different than any other human population. They were just maneuvered into the wrong direction by the government.

 

[InZaneFlea]

The people didn't want Bush. He didn't win the popular vote. He won because of our f'ed up system of Electoral Colledge. Just look at him. He doesn't look like a president, he looks, acts, and talks, like an old Used Car Salesman...Oh, and he lied, and he can't speak, and he keeps changing what he said (First year in office 'Saddam is incapable of getting WoMD's.' After 9/11 'Saddam is a serious threat to the USA.') Iraq has never attacked us, Iraq has never threatened to, and Iraq has pretty much never killed an American Civilian. But yet you blindly follow Bush. Why? They fed shit your way. The whole 'Terror Alert Level' thing is there for that purpose. It will NEVER go to blue or green, and all they have to do before they do something stupid again? Raise it to High. And bam, everyone huddles around behind him. Sickening.

 

[Icarusintel]

Well, I believe it to be a manipulative government, who don't really represent the actual opinions of the American people. So when I flame away, I often never mean the american people. They're no different than any other human population. They were just steered into the wrong direction by the government.

Glad to see you still believe the american people are ok, i'll bet you read conspiracy theories a lot

 

[Icarusintel]

The people didn't want Bush. He didn't win the popular vote. He won because of our f'ed up system of Electoral Colledge. Just look at him. He doesn't look like a president, he looks, acts, and talks, like an old Used Car Salesman...Oh, and he lied, and he can't speak, and he keeps changing what he said (First year in office 'Saddam is incapable of getting WoMD's.' After 9/11 'Saddam is a serious threat to the USA.') Iraq has never attacked us, Iraq has never threatened to, and Iraq has pretty much never killed an American Civilian. But yet you blindly follow Bush. Why? They fed shit your way. The whole 'Terror Alert Level' thing is there for that purpose. It will NEVER go to blue or green, and all they have to do before they do something stupid again? Raise it to High. And bam, everyone huddles around behind him. Sickening.

Yeah, I'd have much rather had Gore in office when they terrorists struck, we'd have really been in good hands then
Why do I follow Bush, because he's the commander-in-chief and I think what he's doing is right in some ways, I may not agree with every detail, but what he is doing is mostly right, and that's my personal opinion

 

[NeLi]

Yeah, I'd have much rather had Gore in office when they terrorists struck, we'd have really been in good hands then
Why do I follow Bush, because he's the commander-in-chief and I think what he's doing is right in some ways, I may not agree with every detail, but what he is doing is mostly right, and that's my personal opinion

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Yeah, I'd have much rather had Gore in office when they terrorists struck, we'd have really been in good hands then
Why do I follow Bush, because he's the commander-in-chief and I think what he's doing is right in some ways, I may not agree with every detail, but what he is doing is mostly right, and that's my personal opinion

What righteous stuff has he achieved so far?

 

[InZaneFlea]

I follow him because I dont' have much of a choice. But come on.

Clinton was impeached for a blowjob.

Why isn't Bush impeached for starting a war for oil and money? And lying about Iraq's WoMD? And killing xxxxx Iraqis and xxxx Americans? And destroying the economy? And causing us all to live with the day to day uncertainty of a terrorist attack that will never happen?

 

[K e r b e r o s]

None of that would have ever happened had Bush not signed the paper to invade. He knew the evil that is involved in war. All the evil is traced back to his decision. He bears the responsibility for the death of over 10,000 Iraqi civillians, over 1000 American troops.

..and with that, people across the globe hate "Americans". Ohwell, if people hate me just because I'am American, I guess that justifies my right to hate them too.

The leader is the one with blood on their hands.

Hitler has yet to be rivaled, which is where I'm throwing down your conclusions and comparisons for being incorrect.

I'm pretty stupid, so could you rephrase that?

Stop believing were all stupid warmongers who are out for blood. (Americans). Americans are citizens with opinions. I have an opinion. I disagree with whats going on. I also disagree with you, because not all of us here, are what you "assume" us to be. I finally have an opinion now, because now I'am 18.

I get sick of people looking at me wrong, just because I have faith in my rights and opinionate about them, and protest when they're violated. I get sick of people believing I'am for some reason guilty of at least killing one Middle-Easterner.

But see, the age barrier does'nt matter to hate.

Not all Americans are dumb, or are out for blood. Get. That. Right.

 

[InZaneFlea]

Our great Coalition? Britain has around 8,000 troops in Iraq. The rest have around 1,000 or less. And one of those rests? Poland. I'm sure Poland has a HUGE army.

 

[NeLi]

..and with that, people across the globe hate "Americans". Ohwell, if people hate me just because I'am American, I guess that justifies my right to hate them too.



Hitler has yet to be rivaled, which is where I'm throwing down your conclusions and comparisons as being incorrect.



Stop living in this Science Fiction world where when the US ****s up, and they **** the world, they come back and bitch to get other countries help.

Where not doing that. I have'nt done that.

Mate... Ok... I'll rephrase my opinions: The current government of America ****ed UN and Iraq up the ass. As a direct consequence of messing with the UN, they Then messed up. Now they want us to help them.

In this case, they ARE the bad guys. And as I said earlier, I have nothing against the general american population.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

In this case, they ARE the bad guys. And as I said earlier, I have nothing against the general american population.

Thanks. Keep it that way from now on, so I dont go off half-cocked. I'm a very mad American Citizen, so this right now, makes me feel better about the rest of the world to have you correct your opinion. It just felt like I was being attacked simply for being born in this country.

We understand your disbelief in our administration.


Thanks.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Poland. I'm sure Poland has a HUGE army.

So once again, the people in the world have zero respect for Poland or Jews. Great way to share a good world opinion. Bush's politics aside, I love Poland as a friend.

 

[InZaneFlea]

I have nothing against Poland. But Bush keeps emphasizing that Poland is in our coalition. Poland has like 30 troops in Iraq? It's sad that he thinks he's made a grand coalition. WWII? That was a grand coalition. This is a tea party.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Its so funny. Only those countries and their troops matter to us.

Did your family ever tell you, "One Good friend", was better then just having "50?"

 

[Phoenix2001]

Its so funny. Only those countries and their troops matter to us.

Did your family ever tell you, "One Good friend", was better then just having "50?"

Have a look at gulf war I. That was an alliance of troops. Bush's "coaltion of the willing" is nothing but a great joke...There are countries like El Salvador or Mongolia.
Bigger countries like spain are pulling their troops back...Blair almost lost his job for supporting bush....

@steelwind (reply to page 5)

We're suddenly insane for voting for Bush? Care to explain that philosophy?

Well, for example he destroyed america's credibility in the whole world by violating international laws.
Besides looking for inexisting weapons of mass destruction he makes up connections between al qaida and iraq. He destroyed the idea of global environmental protection by not signing the kyoto protocols...The list goes on and on....
Do you think still supporting this man ist very clever?

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Have a look at gulf war I. That was an alliance of troops. Bush's "coaltion of the willing" is nothing but a great joke...There are countries like El Salvador or Mongolia.
Bigger countries like spain are pulling their troops back...Blair almost lost his job for supporting bush....

Do you have a source for the Blair thing? I never heard this.

 

[seinfeldrules]

If Bush wins and does a great job, then I will admit I was wrong.

No you wont.

 

[NeLi]

Do you have a source for the Blair thing? I never heard this.

He pretty much lost all support for his party when he joined the US. Even some of his party members oppose him.

 

[Phoenix2001]

He pretty much lost all support for his party when he joined the US. Even some of his party members oppose him.

Exactly

 

[h00dlum]

I wouldt be pissed but i would ask myself what the hell you guys are doing? Anyone can see that Bush is not a smart man!

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Duh, but I dont like being called "Bush's American" simply because I share both Conservative and Liberal views. I was so happy, because soon I would be able to vote.

Now, on the eve of one of the biggest votes in my lifetime, I hear all of this rhetoric about hating America and Americans. What the **** did I do?

I was born in 1986, and I cant become a citizen legally until October 25th. How am I guilty for Bush? I could'nt vote for him or vote against the decisions I made. How am I guilty for him?

Oh, I know the answer. Its because im simply American. /sarcasm

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Seriously, I'am getting very angry at being pissed on just because "I'm American". Well, least I know how blacks felt during the 1970's. I hope people in other countries are happy, because if pissing on Americans innocent of voting Bush into office is your trend, well congradulations, its a popular one.

 

[Phoenix2001]

It's not because you are american. The problem is that bush's behaviour has creates some kind of anti-americanism in some parts of the world. Sadly this is applied to all americans in general. But this has ansolutelyy nothing to do with the american public in general. And of course it has nothing to do with people who were/are not able to vote, are not interested in politics etc...But i can partly understand this anti-americanism referring to bush's actions and aims (or those of ultra-conservative think-tanks) and those of his supporters.

 

[Fat Tony!]

It makes no difference in the end you have no decent alternatives. Just vote in Kerry at least he wont be starting any wars, it would be a whole contradiction to do so with his whole "ooh i hate war ;( ;( " thing. Seems logical to me.