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Why do you all give a crap about what type of music George Bush listens to when he is out on bike rides? Who gives a crap whether he likes Shania Twain or Marilyn Manson, he likes the music that he likes for his own reasons. I don't feel the need for the media or for anyone else to over think everything someone does "oh no, George Bush listens to Marilyn Manson, he must not have respect for gays".
 
I dont think anyone here really cares what's on his ipod. This thread was for suggestions on what should be on his ipod ...so far I was the only one to actually give suggestions
 
The old soviet national anthem!

Deep down in his heart he's really a commie.
 
Hapless said:
Actually, it's not a Rage Against the Machine cover band. That is but one of the myriad songs by myriad artists we cover. My other band, however, solely does Pantera songs...some of which are also anti-cop. I don't sing, I play guitar. But I digress...

I don't understand why you think it should, "bother," me that some musicians sing anti-cop songs. Or songs with a political message I don't identify with. I play guitar. If the song is well-written and pleasing to my ear, I'll listen to it. I'll even buy the CD if it's good enough to lay down money on. I liked Smells Like Teen Spirit (until it got run into the ground,) and that song has no coherent message whatsoever. Do I need to, "feel," the message to perform the music correctly? Are you implying that a gay actor can't possibly play a homophobe with any degree of accuracy because he can't truly, "feel," the character? I don't know, I guess to a certain degree, I expect most, "message," songs to have a message I don't agree with, since a majority of musicians tend to lean to the left. Doesn't mean the songs don't rock.
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I really wasnt being all the serious ...I really dont care if you listen to the message in music or not (although at some point music with message has to have some resonance ...I mean you cant listen to Crosby Stills Nash and Young's "Ohio" without hearing the message, it's just inescapable)

Honestly, I was just seeing where this particular road would lead ..you know, pushing buttons, fishing for information etc :E

Hapless said:
You say, "I like all forms of music regardless of the person behind the music."

This suggests that you would listen to an album of country/western paeans to the greatness of America written and performed by Dubya himself.
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actually I'd jump at the chance ...for obvious comical reasons ...I guess I'd be something along these lines ..except a tad more patriotic with a few "drinking songs" thrown in for good measure

Hapless said:
Yet you can't understand how listening to, and performing, Rage Against the Machine songs doesn't bother me. Surely you aren't implying that only someone who believes as you do could possibly be open-minded enough to listen to a song that is in absolute opposition to what he believes in. That would be almost....close-minded... :naughty:
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you have to admit that it's ironic, and I dont think it's "close-minded" ...think of it more as "I take it for granted that you are defined within this box that I call "right-wing conservative-military-guy" and I'm surprised when you step out of the box ..but that only pushes the borders of the box out further ....a little over analytical but but it's kind of hard to judge character based on text


Hapless said:
That being said, this is mostly tongue in cheek, as I am assuming yours was when you posted. I wouldn't want you to think I was making a big deal, jumping to conclusions or attacking you. :p
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yes, a little subtle but I picked up on it ....oh and I always make a "big deal", it's a politics forum a knee-jerk reaction is a must :naughty:
 
kirovman said:
The old soviet national anthem!

Deep down in his heart he's really a commie.
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lol!! a "commie pinko" hehehehe
 
I always liked the soviet's national anthem ...quite moving ...in a non pinko-commie kind of way ;)
 
CptStern said:
I always liked the soviet's national anthem ...quite moving ...in a non pinko-commie kind of way ;)
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So did i, especially when it was sung in Hunt For Red October.
 
was that during the patriotic scene where russian sean connery yearns for freedom loving america the brave? ;)
 
Was that the movie that all russian spoke english, except for in the national athem?`
 
yes ...few american movies have the actors speaking a foreign language ...ww2 movies are a joke: germans speaking with british accents, although some were done quite well: A Bridge Too Far
 
Das Boot...

I've also heard they there will be a new film about the Battle of Stalingrad soon, of the perspective of a german private. The only languages will be German and Russian... The director have done research work for 5 years, so I guess it will be pretty correct...can't find the article now, though.
 
The_Monkey said:
Das Boot...

I've also heard they there will be a new film about the Battle of Stalingrad soon, of the perspective of a german private. The only languages will be German and Russian... The director have done research work for 5 years, so I guess it will be pretty correct...can't find the article now, though.
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really?cool if so

there already was a movie caled stalingrad,from the peeps who made das boot,it was pretty good,it was made in the early 90s and then there was enemy at the gates :|,not to be confused with the excellent book of the same name,the film was based on a book called 'war of the rats' or sumit and was very innacurate
 
CptStern said:
yes ...few american movies have the actors speaking a foreign language ...ww2 movies are a joke: germans speaking with british accents, although some were done quite well: A Bridge Too Far
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I dont go to world war 2 movies looking for deep plot, I want to see guts everywhere.
 
CptStern said:
that actually explains a lot :thumbs:
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[sternvoicewhichicanonlyspeculateishighandwhiney]yeah heh heh cause gh0st is such a neocon douchebag! heh heh! jebus! heh! heh you like to see ppl dying in war movies! heh! jebus! how rediculous! heh![/sternvoice]
 
CptStern said:
was that during the patriotic scene where russian sean connery yearns for freedom loving america the brave? ;)
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It was the part where the whole crew of the submarine sings it as a patriotic act and the black guy on the American submarine says "i think i can hear...singing, sir".
 
CptStern said:
yes ...few american movies have the actors speaking a foreign language ...ww2 movies are a joke: germans speaking with british accents, although some were done quite well: A Bridge Too Far
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I think A Bridge Too Far is the greatest war movie ever made, followed closely by We Were Soldiers.
 
Go rent Red Dawn. That is a war movie I bet Stern would fall in love with.
 
Bodacious said:
Go rent Red Dawn. That is a war movie I bet Stern would fall in love with.
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Is that with Dolph Lundgren?
 
we were soldiers? too hollywood IMO, I prefer Apocolypse Now as my definative Vietnam movie. Also Gibson made the far superior Gallipoli
 
Bodacious said:
Go rent Red Dawn. That is a war movie I bet Stern would fall in love with.
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seen it dozens of times in my youth ...I guess you'd love it too ...especially the scene with the dead american who has a bumper sticker that reads something like "the only way you'll take my gun is from my lifeless hands" ..a russian soldier bends over to take the gun of the dead brave american ..it's a blantant self-aggrandizing allusion to the second amendment right to carry weapons ...rah rah rah USA
 
All Quiet On The Western Front=One of the best war movies ever made. Although it's really an anti-war movie. I've seen it many, many times.
 
Stern you never replied to my PM where I told you about the WW1 book that almost turned me into a snivelling rat lib. Check it out sometime, Johnny got his Gun.
 
ya I saw the movie and remember the metallica video ...I have a bad track record for answering pm's ( I get too many of them) ...as many of you know ;)
 
CptStern said:
ya I saw the movie and remember the metallica video ...I have a bad track record for answering pm's ( I get too many of them) ...as many of you know ;)
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The movie isnt nearly the same. I thought it was very boring. The book was rather boring too, but its very well written and a perspective you dont often think about. The metallica video was just bizarre :burp:
 
CptStern said:
we were soldiers? too hollywood IMO, I prefer Apocolypse Now as my definative Vietnam movie. Also Gibson made the far superior Gallipoli
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not technically 'made' gallipoli,more like starred in,it was a peter weir film,the ending was very upsetting
 
gh0st said:
Stern you never replied to my PM where I told you about the WW1 book that almost turned me into a snivelling rat lib. Check it out sometime, Johnny got his Gun.
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yeah thats a good book,in tigerland the character colin farrell plays bozz is reading that on the bus,small bit of trivia for you
 
Hmm Bush's ipod.....

Metallica
Craddle of filth
The Misfits.....

that would be hilarious.
 
CptStern said:
we were soldiers? too hollywood IMO, I prefer Apocolypse Now as my definative Vietnam movie. Also Gibson made the far superior Gallipoli
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The reason i prefered We Were Soldiers over a lot of other war movies is that you rarely see a war movie that doesn't take sides and shows the battle from both perspectives. I found Apocolypse Now to be a very boring movie and didn't care much for the plot at all.
 
Razor said:
The reason i prefered We Were Soldiers over a lot of other war movies is that you rarely see a war movie that doesn't take sides and shows the battle from both perspectives. I found Apocolypse Now to be a very boring movie and didn't care much for the plot at all.
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well to be honest I read Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness before watching the movie (which apocolypse now is based on) ...the movie is supposed to be a long descent into madness ..it captures it quite well. No manly soldiers fighting off scores of enemy ..frightened soldiers barely out of their youth destroyed from the inside out by the horrors they witness
 
Razor said:
The reason i prefered We Were Soldiers over a lot of other war movies is that you rarely see a war movie that doesn't take sides and shows the battle from both perspectives. I found Apocolypse Now to be a very boring movie and didn't care much for the plot at all.
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We Were Soldiers was a lot better than Apocalypse Now IMO, for the very reason that Razor stated. That's not to say that AN isn't excellent, because it is.

As for what song I'd put on Bush's iPod:

Heresy by Nine Inch Nails

your god is dead
and no one cares
if there is a hell
then I'll see you there

Also, perhaps, "Killin in the Name" by Rage Against the Machine.
 
CptStern said:
well to be honest I read Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness before watching the movie (which apocolypse now is based on) ...the movie is supposed to be a long descent into madness ..it captures it quite well. No manly soldiers fighting off scores of enemy ..frightened soldiers barely out of their youth destroyed from the inside out by the horrors they witness
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That is why i didn't like it, it was a movie with an agenda, an agenda to turn war loving American's into protesters to stop the war. It is also the reason why i don't like a lot of the John Wayne ww2 movies as well, movies that glorify war. I prefer war movies that just show you the cold, hard facts of war and tells the story of the men fighting the war without any bias or hidden agenda, just the story of a group of soldiers fighting for each other...Saving Private Ryan for instance, no bullshit anti or pro war propaganda, just a story about a group of soldiers caught up in a war.

edit: back to what song i would put on Bush's Ipod, probably "America, F**k Yeah" from Team America :). You can just see him biking up the road singing it.
 
We Were Soldiers cannot compare to AN ...it's just a brilliant film ...We Were Soldiers is a good movie ...there's a distinction
 
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