Iran switches assets to euro

[clarky003]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6190865.stm

Now this happened on the 18th of December and barely any attention was grabbed but this could cause alot of trouble for the dollar.

Anyone can call nonsense on my view on this but if you know how valueable the petrodollar is to the US economy you'll know that Iran switching to the petroeuro is more likely to be one of the real reasons you could see increased US hostility towards Iran in the coming year.

 

[Raziaar]

United States should switch to the Euro...

or are we not allowed to?

 

[CptStern]

dont they know what happened to the last country that tried that?

 

[Nemesis6]

Heh, now they're Europe's bitch! :-D -- Who, by Ahmadinejad's definition, are Zionists, too! --

 

[clarky003]

United States should switch to the Euro...

or are we not allowed to?

You can if you want too , it would just completely devalue the US economy and send the federal reserve spiraling into more debt.

 

[theotherguy]

Shit, now bush is going to invade.

 

[clarky003]

It's a euro fest!, early last year Syria did it too

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10636

 

[Stingey]

This means Iran is creating a nuclear arsenal with EUROPEAN MONEY

 

[Insano]

dont they know what happened to the last country that tried that?

The article mentions how the euro was very weak when Saddam switched from Dollar to Euro, 82 dollarcents to be particular.

After that, the Euro went uphill, so it didn't hurt Saddam economically.

 

[Nih]

The article mentions how the euro was very weak when Saddam switched from Dollar to Euro, 82 dollarcents to be particular.

After that, the Euro went uphill, so it didn't hurt Saddam economically.

Yes... Economically. I think you missed his point

 

[Insano]

Yes... Economically. I think you missed his point

I'm well aware of his point, but it doesn't make any sense to me.

It's not like the US said: "Oh, Saddam is using the Euro instead of our precious Dollar? Lets invade him!"

 

[CptStern]

but "Saddam has WMD, lets invade him?" somehow makes more sense?

have you seen this video?

 

[<RJMC>]

I dont know crap about economy so why this change will be a "excuse" of the USA to invade iran?

 

[cat]

It's not like the US said: "Oh, Saddam is using the Euro instead of our precious Dollar? Lets invade him!"

i think this was exactly it

I mean is there ANY other reasonable reason for invading iraq?

 

[15357]

The liberation of the Iraqi people?

 

[cat]

ok this sounds cynical but


lol



US does not give a fawk about iraqi freedom


example:


Dujail massacre was in 1982

This was in 1983
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/handshake300.jpg
(Rumsfeldt handshaking with Saddam)

 

[15357]

Nope, wrong administration, and the US was busier with other evils, like the communist empire of the USSR.

 

[cat]

They supported Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war in the 1980s. Cause they would rather like to to have power hungry dictators as puppets than an Islamic state

 

[<RJMC>]

elimination of the satan spawn that was saddam in the name of god?

 

[15357]

They supported Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war in the 1980s. Cause they would rather like to to have power hungry dictators as puppets than an Islamic state

who wouldn't?

 

[Raziaar]

i think this was exactly it

I mean is there ANY other reasonable reason for invading iraq?

No matter what false reasons were used for invading Iraq, Saddam abandoning the dollar was not one of them.

 

[cat]

I think Iranians live better with their islamic rule than with a dictator.

 

[Raziaar]

I think Iranians live better with their islamic rule than with a dictator.

Their current ruler is a genocide dreaming psychopath.

 

[CptStern]

that's not true ..again the media purposefully misinterpreted what he said on more than one occasion

 

[15357]

I think Iranians live better with their islamic rule than with a dictator.

current rule: Virtual dictator

 

[cat]

Their current ruler is a genocide dreaming psychopath.

As stern said, its an misinterpretation

current rule: Virtual dictator

Not really, If the islamic laws would not be embedded so strongly in the SOCIETY, then the ayatollahs would not have any authority whatsoever.


I do not like strict islamic law either, but all this Iran bashing is just propagande to make the citizens of the US feel hatred so that going to war wont upset them

 

[Absinthe]

The liberation of the Iraqi people?

diaf

 

[15357]

As stern said, its an misinterpretation





Not really, If the islamic laws would not be embedded so strongly in the SOCIETY, then the ayatollahs would not have any authority whatsoever.


I do not like strict islamic law either, but all this Iran bashing is just propagande to make the citizens of the US feel hatred so that going to war wont upset them

Great, you've passed from authoritarianism into totalitarianism.

 

[cat]

beside If i was a palestinian, or affiliated with them I would probably have good reason to not accept Israel as a state

 

[cat]

Great, you've passed from authoritarianism into totalitarianism.

You really think the Us is threatening Iran for humanitarian reasons?

 

[15357]

beside If i was a palestinian, or affiliated with them I would probably have good reason to not accept Israel as a state

But you aren't. This is not about palestine. This is about Iran.

 

[15357]

You really think the Us is threatening Iran for humanitarian reasons?

Did I say that?

 

[Raziaar]

beside If i was a palestinian, or affiliated with them I would probably have good reason to not accept Israel as a state

But you probably wouldn't view blowing yourself up and dozens of people not affiliated with the Israel regime as an ideal way to bring a better life to your family and people, would you?

You both need to stop double posting though.

 

[cat]

But you probably wouldn't view blowing yourself up and dozens of people not affiliated with the Israel regime as an ideal way to bring a better life to your family and people, would you?

Obviously this is not cool. I also dont want to support the suicide bombing.

But try to imagine being a palestinian. They have to live under foreign opression and are now supposed to "compromise". Imagine that, they take your homeland and tell you to act civilized. They have no advanced weaponry to fight, so they are improvising.


Again I dont mean to justify the suicide bombings of people who are not responsible for the situation. But the Israelis are not very careful either.

 

[cat]

But you aren't. This is not about palestine. This is about Iran.

This is very much connected to Iran and the whole Mid-east

 

[Raziaar]

You know... the best bet for the Palestinian people is to realize that much of the world sympathizes with them, and their plight.

So you know what the most intelligent thing to do would be? Drop your weapons... stop fighting and killing people which will be futile in getting a better homeland for yourself.

Instead, show that you are a peaceful people as a whole, and let the world see the situation you are in... without all the smoke and fire of destruction that suicide bombings cause. Those sorts of acts create bias against the Palestinian people, even though it's caused by a relative few in comparison to the whole.

The world is becoming more and more open to helping those in need, even if they are far away. Most countries sympathize with people who are living a horrible way of life. I am sure then, that a greater number of countries would come together and put pressure on Israel to make a better place for the Palestinian people to live.


EDIT: Cat, you need to stop double posting, and instead edit your posts.

 

[cat]

The world is becoming more and more open to helping those in need, even if they are far away. Most countries sympathize with people who are living a horrible way of life. I am sure then, that a greater number of countries would come together and put pressure on Israel to make a better place for the Palestinian people to live.

well this would be like: If they behave they get a cookie. The whole west treats Israel like a Master race, so giving in would only cement their position

 

[Raziaar]

well this would be like: If they behave they get a cookie. The whole west treats Israel like a Master race, so giving in would only cement their position

Get a cookie? What the **** are you talking about? Achieving your means through PEACEFUL negotiations and with the aid of countries around the world is the best way to go about this situation.

Sorry to say it... but you denying that fact simply because it sounds to you like they would be treated as a child(which is not true... peaceful means is the mature thing to do in the time we live), is just stupid.

The best weapon the Palestinians have to attain a better life and home, is through the power of politics and peace, not bloodshed. In the game of warfare, they simply CANNOT win.

 

[cat]

The best weapon the Palestinians have to attain a better life and home, is through the power of politics and peace, not bloodshed. In the game of warfare, they simply CANNOT win.

Palestinians have to pass Israeli checkpoint to move to other places. They are basically treated like prisoners.


About the WIN

They may not be able to defeat Israel with their attacks but they can make make sure that they wont win either. I think this is their mindset. Fight or die trying

 

[Raziaar]

Palestinians have to pass Israeli checkpoint to move to other places. They are basically treated like prisoners.


About the WIN

They may not be able to defeat Israel with their attacks but they can make make sure that they wont win either. I think this is their mindset. Fight or die trying

If that's the mentality they take... they're going to be in the exact same situation for many years to come. They are one of the two most important players in the game that allows a better existence. Violence isn't the answer. If the Palestinian militants stopped their violence, and the world can still see that they're being crushed beneath a steel toed war machine, then the rest of the world will step in and do a far better job than the Palestinians have the means to.

Justifying Suicide Bombing because it is the only weapon of war that they have... is stupid. Stop waging war, period. You can accomplish so much more with peace. We're not living in the dark ages anymore. The only reason I know of that they might have to pass through checkpoints, is because many people of theirs have taken up arms and are intent to kill innocents. That fear that the Israelis have would go away if all the attacks ceased.

Israel has their own crap they need to clean up and straighten out. They are a big contributor to all the violence too...