iraqi kids throw rocks at US troops (video)

[Zeus]

Well, I live in the UK, so people see me making a modification supporting our worst enimies' the IRA. (Which I'm not by the way) So it actually makes some sense.
And zeus, yes I would.

Oh really, you would? Ok well what if they shot at british troops and they shot back...Im sure your response wouldn't be the same considering you seem to have double standards for everything.

 

[French Ninja]

Idd I would.

Wow.
Unless Idd means:
I did not know what I was thinking. Disregard the following statement,
Then you have lost all creditability and my respect, Michael Crook. :frown:

 

[Blackghost905]

I always go by the golden rule, Never throw a rock at somthing that can blow you up!

 

[Mr-Fusion]

again I have a better idea ...why not address things like providing safe healthy enviroments for those kids to grow up in? why not fix all the hospitals you blew to kingdom come, why havent you fixed the electrical grids you also blew to smithereens ..why are 100% of the people on rations ...WHY DONT YOU DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE THERE TO DO ...HELP

hey now!

 

[Laivasse]

Who wouldn't want to throw rocks at a twat like that? Frankly, if you're not man enough to take kids chucking stones at you without having to resort to throwing a hissy fit or wanting to fire on unarmed civilians, then you should not be in the army.

Also, it's obvious the guys in the truck are actually loving the situation. One guy is pissing himself laughing. None of the Americans seem particularly bothered by the fact that some people outside their truck, with pretty shitty lives, are spewing hate at the troops who are supposedly there to 'help'. They don't seem too surprised either. They're not surprised because they know most Iraqis feel that way about them, and they're not bothered because...well, because they simply don't care.

And who are the wacky 'merkins rubbishing The Guardian as a source? LOL. do'nt listen 2 da filhty liberal media tehy liez 2 u

 

[Glirk Dient]

Who wouldn't want to throw rocks at a twat like that? Frankly, if you're not man enough to take kids chucking stones at you without having to resort to throwing a hissy fit or wanting to fire on unarmed civilians, then you should not be in the army.

Good point...next time a kid tried to murder me I will take it like a man and not complain about dying.

Also, it's obvious the guys in the truck are actually loving the situation. One guy is pissing himself laughing. None of the Americans seem particularly bothered by the fact that some people outside their truck, with pretty shitty lives, are spewing hate at the troops who are supposedly there to 'help'. They don't seem too surprised either. They're not surprised because they know most Iraqis feel that way about them, and they're not bothered because...well, because they simply don't care.

I agreed with the first sentence, second and half of the third...then you started to ramble and speculate uch BS it made me laugh.

 

[Da-Muffin-Man]

Ughhhh, they should at least be allowed to fire warning shots to try and scare the kids away, but they definately shouldn't be allowed to shoot the kids. They're young, probably dont know enough to contemplate what there doing. Their parents probably made them do it.

 

[little.rebel]

imperialism casued 9/11 ..you'd best learn from your mistakes or you're doomed to repeat them ...again I must stress that YOU means the US

##
NOOOOO

CRAP IMPERIALISM FALSE IMPERIALISM CAUSED 9/11, USING AFGHAHANS TO FIGHT USSR, AND THEN WHEN IT WAS OVER THEY DUMPED THEM, LEFT THEM WITH NOTHING.

BUT HATE AND VENGANCE FOR ANOTHER BASTARD SUPERPOWER.

ITS ONLY NOW THAT USA HAS TAKEN IT OVER IMPERIALLY, NOW THEY HAVE TO. SINCE 9-11.

AND YOU MIGHT SLAG SOCIALISM OFF, BUT ITS A HECK MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS SOCIETY IF NOTHING ELSE.

 

[little.rebel]

Its Reckless Systems Like America , Which On One Hand Try Ruthless Social Engineering And Yet Have No Responsibility For Thier Own Or World Situation.
They Have Plunged This Whole World In Chaos Nearly, So It Doesnt Suprise Me If They Got Thier Own Men There Having Rocks Thrown At Them.

 

[destrukt]

wow, anyone else want to stab 'little.rebel' (worst name, ever) in the face for having an uppercase letter for every word ?

 

[Kamikazie]

what he tried to do was use all caps, but there was the caps block that stood its ground!

 

[Da-Muffin-Man]

wow, anyone else want to stab 'little.rebel' (worst name, ever) in the face for having an uppercase letter for every word ?

Yeah...it's getting really annoying.

 

[French Ninja]

Its Reckless Systems Like America , Which On One Hand Try Ruthless Social Engineering And Yet Have No Responsibility For Thier Own Or World Situation.
They Have Plunged This Whole World In Chaos Nearly, So It Doesnt Suprise Me If They Got Thier Own Men There Having Rocks Thrown At Them.

Don't you even try and blame this on us. Ever wonder why Africa is so terrible? Look at what the Europeans did to it ...and India ... and South East Asia ... and China ... If it was not for the US, Japan would have joined them too.
I'm sorry, but your hissy fit against America doesn't pull off as an argument.

 

[Zeus]

Don't you even try and blame this on us. Ever wonder why Africa is so terrible? Look at what the Europeans did to it ...and India ... and South East Asia ... and China ... If it was not for the US, Japan would have joined them too.
I'm sorry, but your hissy fit against America doesn't pull off as an argument.

So true...btw I love your (new) sig. I also find it funny how someone who always preaches that non-violence is the best way and how war is so terrible supports iraqi kids shooting and possibly killing US troops.

 

[Solaris]

Little Rebel,
You are NOT a member of The Peoples Socilist Republic, remove that status immediately, or submit youre self to the ministry of love immediately.

 

[Mr Stabby]

Don't you even try and blame this on us. Ever wonder why Africa is so terrible? Look at what the Europeans did to it ...and India ... and South East Asia ... and China ... If it was not for the US, Japan would have joined them too.
I'm sorry, but your hissy fit against America doesn't pull off as an argument.

thats a very good point, when it was Britain and France that were policing the world they did just as bad

 

[Laivasse]

Good point...next time a kid tried to murder me I will take it like a man and not complain about dying.

I also find it funny how someone who always preaches that non-violence is the best way and how war is so terrible supports iraqi kids shooting and possibly killing US troops.

What the hell video did you guys watch? These kids were chucking stones, not mounting an armed assault. Your determination to paint any Iraqi who opposes the US presence there as bloodthirsty criminals is laughable, and it's probably part of why everyone over there hates your troops so much.

It seems like the US forces don't quite understand that they don't actually have a right to be there, and so they get indignant when normal Iraqis react badly. Let's face it, a while back a large proportion of the US populace still thought that the war in Iraq was about terrorism - who's to say your troops were any clearer about why they signed up? If you start out with this kind of adversarial mindset then don't be surprised if you get a shoddy reaction, and completely fail in the battle for hearts and minds.

It looks to me frighteningly similar to the attitude that was taken in Vietnam, where the US starts to see the entire populace as enemies and potential 'collaborators', and as such they become fair game for attack after the slightest provocation.

 

[15357]

Little Rebel,
You are NOT a member of The Peoples Socilist Republic, remove that status immediately, or submit youre self to the ministry of love immediately.

Nor is he a member of the PRA. Evil Bastard.


Anyway, those poor troops.

also, stones hurt. They can even kill. So, shush.

 

[Laivasse]

also, stones hurt. They can even kill. So, shush.

As shown in the vid, they tend to have less killing and hurting power when you're travelling in an armoured military vehicle.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Ughhhh, they should at least be allowed to fire warning shots to try and scare the kids away.

Again, that would just end up with the kids running back to their friends screaming 'zomg americans shot at us! we did nothing!' Next day in the news: UNPROVOKED US ATTACK ON UNARMED IRAQI CHILDREN. Now the throwing rocks is bad but it isn't tantamount to murder. This 'stones hurt' business is bullshit! I had my head cracked open by a stone and I was fine! My two best friends sitting outside the medical room singing 'we've killed him WITH A STONE WITH A STONE WITH A STONE' only lightened the cheery festive mood.

It seems like the US forces don't quite understand that they don't actually have a right to be there, and so they get indignant when normal Iraqis react badly.

Laivasse? Politics? Ftw!

wow, anyone else want to stab 'little.rebel'

For once, I'm with you on this one.

A rebel, huh? So what are you rebelling against?

 

[Laivasse]

Laivasse? Politics? Ftw!

I try not to get too deeply involved in these kind of arguments, cos they make things go fizz-pop in my head, then I froth at the mouth and my lazy eye kicks in.

 

[15357]

As shown in the vid, they tend to have less killing and hurting power when you're travelling in an armoured military vehicle.

They can still scratch the paint! :E

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

As shown in the vid, they tend to have less killing and hurting power when you're travelling in an armoured military vehicle.

Now show me how their glass was "armoured," because it was about broken with one rock hit.

 

[Laivasse]

Now show me how their glass was "armoured," because it was about broken with one rock hit.

I don't even follow you. Because the glass was cracked that means the soldiers were in mortal danger? Come on...
And if that's not what you meant, then you've got no point *shrug*

 

[SAJ]

Now show me how their glass was "armoured," because it was about broken with one rock hit.

Its obviously toughened safety glass, normal windscreens dont take an impact from a rock and only have localised cracking.

Im puzzled though, how is it that kids chucking rocks at trucks is able to generate so much heated debate? From some of the comments youd think it was a capital offence.

 

[Laivasse]

The guy filming the vid certainly seemed to think so.

 

[JNightshade]

Well, the guy filming the vid was in quite a difficult situation. Chances are he's an asshole anyway, but when you're in an area like that, seems to me it would bring out the worst in you.

 

[Da-Muffin-Man]

Its obviously toughened safety glass, normal windscreens dont take an impact from a rock and only have localised cracking.

Im puzzled though, how is it that kids chucking rocks at trucks is able to generate so much heated debate? From some of the comments youd think it was a capital offence.

Think about this.... if a rock cracked through and hit the driver, then what would happen? The whole truck would probably swerve off the road, hit some kids and lots of people inside the truck would be injured.

P.S. yes the safety glass is toughened, on most military vehicles it is about 3 inches of safety glass.

 

[Glirk Dient]

Think about this.... if a rock cracked through and hit the driver, then what would happen? The whole truck would probably swerve off the road, hit some kids and lots of people inside the truck would be injured.

P.S. yes the safety glass is toughened, on most military vehicles it is about 3 inches of safety glass.

If the rock penetrated the gladd one of them would be dead and the truck would swerve off the road and hit many people nearby. Then the lefties would complain that the U.S. is over there to run kids over.

 

[DreadLord]

I would've shot each and every one of them. Good thing I'm not in the military. :naughty:

 

[Da-Muffin-Man]

If the rock penetrated the gladd one of them would be dead and the truck would swerve off the road and hit many people nearby. Then the lefties would complain that the U.S. is over there to run kids over.

Ermmmmm, that was my point :|

 

[Sulkdodds]

If the rock penetrated the gladd one of them would be dead and the truck would swerve off the road and hit many people nearby. Then the lefties would complain that the U.S. is over there to run kids over.

Nah, it'd be better ammo for the right rather than for the left. "Iraqi children kill American soldier!" I certainly don't see how anyone sane could play it as 'Americans are running over kids! Crucify the bastards!' Still, I think it's very unlikely that a rock would penetrate and even if it did, more unlikely that it would be fatal.

 

[little.rebel]

If this is a freuently, occuring problem, why dont they have metal grills shielding the windscreens of these trucks?

Cnnt blame the iraqis for thinking the americans and british are dumb, when its this ckind of thing.

Are they that low on thiier militery spendning budget already??? tht they cannt afford window shields?

 

[Laivasse]

Nah, it'd be better ammo for the right rather than for the left. "Iraqi children kill American soldier!" I certainly don't see how anyone sane could play it as 'Americans are running over kids! Crucify the bastards!' Still, I think it's very unlikely that a rock would penetrate and even if it did, more unlikely that it would be fatal.

The right could never use any of that as fuel. Even if a US soldier did get killed by a kid, as opposed to the other way around, then it still doesn't look much better for the pro-occupation brigade. What are they going to say; let's turn our guns on the general population? Let's stay there longer until we win their smiles? But like you say, the situation would actually have to be dangerous (ie, unlike the one in the vid) for anything like that to happen in the first place.

Whatever way you look at it, this is evidence of the resentment that Iraqis in general feel towards the US troops. After all, those kids surely aren't terrorists (unless you've really let the propaganda get to you...). The kind of feckless "bring it on" attitude of the soldiers suggests that they're not too hot on the Iraqis either. It's a recipe for a big turd pie.

Or maybe it's a lot simpler than that and the kids hate our freedoms

 

[Da-Muffin-Man]

Or maybe it's a lot simpler than that and the kids hate our freedoms

Or....the kids hate that they dont have our freedoms.

P.S. to Sulkdodds: they throw pretty big rocks man.... i think if a rock breaks through the winshield and hits a guy in the face its still gonna have enough velocity to kill or seriously injure him.

 

[satch919]

What do they expect?! They're in a war zone. I'd rather have rocks flying through the air than bullets.

I'm kinda for the water balloon tactic that someone mentioned. It would allow our guys to take out some frustrations without hurting the kids in a light-hearted way.

Seriously though, if we could ramp up the contruction of schools, the kids would be in schools rather than on the streets with nothing to do. Perhaps then they could be taught to voice their concern in a non-violent way.

 

[15357]

Or rubber bullets. :/

 

[JNightshade]

BB Guns (not Airsoft, painful metal BBs) ftw!

 

[15357]

BB Guns (not Airsoft, painful metal BBs) ftw!

They do hurt like hell.

 

[SIGbastard]

no but this does:

* 82 per cent (of iraqis) are "strongly opposed" to the presence of coalition troops

Can you provide your source for this claim?