I've played the Wii and......

I don't think we're playing the same game :)

Mario 64 is still the best example of analogue movement done right. The precise control you can have over the little sod is frightening at times - just running around is a joy, every slight movement of your thumb translated perfectly into the game. It's one of the few games that's made me sit back and think 'wow'.


I don't think we are playing the same game either. I wish I liked Mario 64 and Zelda and Donkey Kong 64 as much as everyone else does.
 
The only reason for not liking Donkey Kong is the character himself. Boring and unlovable. But the game is still amazing (DK64)

The other two you mentioned are two of the best games ever made.
 
The only reason for not liking Donkey Kong is the character himself. Boring and unlovable. But the game is still amazing (DK64)

The other two you mentioned are two of the best games ever made.

No, Donkey Kong 64 sucks. I invested hours and hours on this game and was never able to finish it because one of the final bosses was impossibly difficult to kill. I don't like that type of games. I don't like games with nearly unachievable objectives. I don't like games that make me want to pull my hair out. That's not my idea of having fun. I like games that I can beat, like HL and HL2. Futhermore, I like linear games. Even GTA is considered linear to some extent. You need to complete missions A, B, and C, in any order, before you are allowed to complete D, E, and F.
 
I didn't rate DK64 that highly either. It was fun, but i'd take Mario 64 or Banjo over it any day. DK on the snes, that was godly, especially the first.
 
I didn't like the 3D versions of Zelda either. Just don't sit right with me. Give me all the NES/SNES versions and I'll be set.

Though Twilight Princess might make me like it due to me having the wii-mote.
 
I didn't like the 3D versions of Zelda either. Just don't sit right with me. Give me all the NES/SNES versions and I'll be set.

Though Twilight Princess might make me like it due to me having the wii-mote.

Cyberpitz more or less the same here. I am hoping that Super Mario Galaxy will be more fun than Mario 64... although it looks like the same basic concept...
 
I didn't rate DK64 that highly either. It was fun, but i'd take Mario 64 or Banjo over it any day. DK on the snes, that was godly, especially the first.

Agreed. That's why I was tricked into buying DK64.
 
'tricked' is a little harsh :)

I'd love Mario Galaxy to be as fun as Mario 64. It's not a game everyone loves, but, along with OoT, is still widely regarded as one of the greatest ever made. I don't think HL2 is that good when compared to the original, but think I can see why many people like it so much. It'd be dull if we all liked the same games.
 
I read this review and ordered a Wii. Thanks :D

To be fair, I aint played it so I can't say its the best thing ever. But to me the games look amazing (sometimes graphically as well as gameplay wise).

Zelda - May be a OOT beater :O
Mario Galaxy - Could be great, going upside down and all that is gonna make some interesting levels.
Wario Ware - Loads of fun mini-games which use the controller well. Gonna be great at drunken get togethers :D
SSBB - Great fighter... more characters and levels... cant wait.
Wii Sports - Simple, but it'll be fun :)
Red Steel - Got the potential to be a great shooter... we'll see. I love the graphics in this game too!
Rayman - Its got screaming rabbits in it! Whats there not to love?
Metroid 3 - Looks cool. It's gonna be good.
Battalion Wars 2 - Looks to be a fun little war game. Online too! :)
Mario Strikers Charged! - Looks like a lot of fun. I'll probably pick this up.
Trauma Centre - Cut people up and make them better. Loads of people loved this on the DS. Sure it'll be great on Wii too!

All these are comming out at launch or within a month or two after launch. Pretty damn good line up. Sure there will be loads more great games on the way too.

This is why I bought my Wii.
 
Don't judge the wii by "excite truck"

it would be like judging the PC by "Daikatana"

play a better game, and you will have better reviews.
If you didnt have any problems with the controller, then play a better game and then come back and tell us how it was.
 
It sounds to me that zleppelin just doesn't like platformers period. And I can't even comprehend someone who wasn't astounded when Mario64 first came out.
 
It sounds to me that zleppelin just doesn't like platformers period. And I can't even comprehend someone who wasn't astounded when Mario64 first came out.
I was eight, and was jaded after playing some of my first video games ever just a few months earlier (Worms, Goldeneye, Starcraft), so I took the game for granted :(
 
Excite Truck looks pretty good to me. I very much doubt it'll get close to the turd of a game that Daikatana was.
 
It sounds to me that zleppelin just doesn't like platformers period. And I can't even comprehend someone who wasn't astounded when Mario64 first came out.

I didn't play Mario 64 until last year, although I played Donkey Kong 64 (very similar to Mario 64) when it came out and it still sucked. Yeah I was very curious about Mario 64 when it first came out, but then again, well... who knows. I might have liked it better in 1996 when there weren't other 3D games to compare it to.
 
they sucked to me... they don't need to suck to everyone for them to *suck*
 
If you're a graphics man why where you even looking in the direction of the Wii?
 
I didn't play Mario 64 until last year, although I played Donkey Kong 64 (very similar to Mario 64) when it came out and it still sucked. Yeah I was very curious about Mario 64 when it first came out, but then again, well... who knows. I might have liked it better in 1996 when there weren't other 3D games to compare it to.

Thats pretty much exactly why Mario64 is held in such high esteem. It created almost all of the platform conventions we know now. Donkey Kong 64 was more a mixed bag, and not even close to being as innovative.
 
I've seen in game screenshots of CoD3 on the Wii and it's suprisingly good. I pre orderd my Wii with CoD3 & Zelda which I greatly look forward to.
 
They've improved the look of the game in Wii Sports too. Forgot where I saw the screen. But it looked nice :) I love the Wii graphics really. The skies aren't filled with bloom, and not all of the characters look plastic. In fact, hardly any characters look plastic.

I pre-ordered mine a few days back, with Zelda and Wii Play with the free controller. Only a fiver more than a controller... might as well pay the little extra and get some more mini-games :)
 
I'm getting that joyous feeling that i felt when i first got OOT =D
 
A great article from Nintendo themselves about Wii Sports:

""Each of the games in Wii Sports can be played alone or with two to four people, and it's when played with a group that Wii Sports really comes into its own.

To put this to the test, we invited four members of the public who've never played Wii before to try out Wii Sports together.

The Players

1) Jack (10) is an avid gamer who enjoys football games, racers and shooters.
2) Simon (34) is Jack's dad and hasn't played a video game since he was his son's age.
3) Pam (52) has never played a video game in her life but enjoys puzzle games like sudoku.
4) Claire (23) has played her sister's Nintendo DS but mostly spends her free time with friends.

Warming up - Making a Mii

One of the best things about Wii Sports is that you can actually become the star of the game. Built into the Wii console is the Mii Channel that lets you make caricatures of yourself or friends and family, and then import them into certain games.

We begin by giving our players five minutes to make their Mii. However they're having so much fun playing around with different combinations of eyes, noses, mouths and body shapes that the time soon stretches to 10 minutes, then 15. Eventually we have to step in and politely hurry things up. The Wii Sports arena awaits!

Round 1 - Tennis

Apart from father and son Simon and Jack, our four players don't know each other yet so we decide to warm things up with a quick tennis doubles match.

Simon and Jack want to play together, so Pam and Claire become their opponents. Despite the group asking us to explain how the Wii Remote works, we stay silent and simply hand them a controller each. We want to let them work it out for themselves.

Jack is first to serve. He asks us which button he needs to press. We explain that he doesn't need to press any buttons; he simply has to raise the Wii Remote up quickly and swing it forward, like a real racquet. He does it first time but Claire, on the receiving end, is so busy watching Jack that she forgets to return the ball.

Soon our players are getting the hang of it; their Mii characters comically running around the screen to keep up with the ball (you only need to concentrate on hitting the ball, not controlling your character). The room begins to sound like a real tennis match as the players grunt and shout while the 'thwack' of the ball comes through the speaker in each player's Wii Remote.

In fact, Simon is getting too into it - jumping around and swinging the Wii Remote like he's at Wimbledon. We explain that he doesn't really need to be so physical with his actions - small movements work just as well as big ones - but he says it helps, so we leave him to it.

As it turns out, Simon's hard work is in vain, as Pam and Claire clinch the match with a 2 sets to 1 win. Each player receives some Rank Points for playing, which increase each time you play a particular sport. For now, the ladies are in the lead but there would be more chances for the guys to catch up.

Round 2 - Baseball

Baseball might not be the most popular sport in Europe but everyone knows the basics of batting and pitching, which form the basis of Wii Sports Baseball.

In this game, one player throws (pitches) the ball while the other player is the batter. To pitch, you simply make a throwing motion with the Wii Remote. We make sure Pam, as the pitcher, is wearing the Wii Remote's strap around her wrist, as we don't want her chucking the controller across the room. The same goes for her opponent Simon, who needs to clutch his Wii Remote like a bat and make a swinging motion to hit Pam's incoming shots.

After a few test throws, Pam soon gets into it and is flinging fastballs at Simon, who seems to have a problem with his timing. He either swings too late or too early but the game tells him where he's going wrong and after a few minutes of swinging at thin air he suddenly hits the ball hard, signalled by a satisfying 'thwack' sound from the Wii Remote speaker. While Simon's Mii makes its automatic home run around the field, the batter switches to a new one. Again, Simon punts another shot out of the park. It looks like he's a fast learner.

Round 3 - Boxing

For this two-player game we needed players who were willing to go to blows with each other and what better warring pair than a father and son! We give Simon and Jack a Nunchuk each, which they connect to their Wii Remotes by a short cable, and they're all set.

By holding the Wii Remote in your right hand and the Nunchuk (which is also motion-sensitive) in your left, you have full control over your Mii boxer's gloves; each punching motion you make is copied by your Mii on screen. You can even dodge blows by moving from side to side and block by raising your hands in front of your face.

This is the first time any of our players have used the Wii Remote and Nunchuk attachment together so we let them practise first in the game's training mode. Each of the sports has three training mini-games that you can play at any time to sharpen your skills. Tennis includes a target-shooting game, Baseball has a batting practice game and Boxing has a punch bag game; onto which we let Simon and Jack loose.

After a few minutes spent beating up the punch bag, we think father and son are ready to take on each other. Jack begins with a few swift right jabs but they have little power and Simon blocks them easily. After a while, though, Jack works out that he can make a one-two combination of punches with a swift right hook followed by a left jab; and his dad's Mii is soon on its knees.

As the referee counts Simon out, Jack raises his controllers in victory but he's spoken too soon; Simon's Mii is back on its feet and back in the action. As more furious blows are exchanged, we spy sweat dripping off the faces of both the characters on the screen and the players in front of it. A minute later, Simon is knocked down again and this time his wobbly-legged Mii refuses to get up again. As Simon mumbles something about never living this down at home, Jack is declared the winner.

Round 4 - Golf

Up to four players can take turns playing Wii Sports Golf but judging by the flushed faces of Jack and Simon we thought it best we let them sit this round out; giving Claire and Pam a chance.

Golf is a little more complicated to play than the other sports, so we step in to demonstrate. You begin by holding the Wii Remote in your hands as if you are gripping a golf club. When you make a swinging motion, a bar on the screen increases to show the power of your shot. The clever thing is that you can practise your swing before you take the shot, just like in real life, by making a few test swings to judge how much power to use.

Claire is first to tee off and she manages the first hole in four shots. Not bad for a beginner. When Pam's turn comes, she fares even better; making it in just three.

After a good 10 minutes of slicing and putting, what's the verdict from our lady golfers? 'I like it more than I thought,' said Claire. 'Yeah,' added Pam, 'I usually think golf is pretty boring but this makes it much more fun.'

By now, Simon and Jack have had time to get their breath back so we finish our Wii Sports session with one last group game.

Final round - Bowling

Whether you only visit the bowling alley on your birthday or are a regular at your local lane, everyone knows how to bowl a ball; becoming an expert is what takes practice.

Wii Sports Bowling is no different. To bowl you simply raise the Wii Remote up in your hand, hold down the B button as if gripping the ball, then swing your arm back and then forward, letting go of B to release the ball.

Simon tells us he takes his family bowling quite often, so he's keen to try it out on Wii. He lines up his first shot, lets the ball go and it heads straight down the middle - only to veer off wildly at the last second and miss the pins. It's time we explained how to control the ball.

You can press left and right on the +Control Pad to change the angle of your swing and, like in real bowling, you can put spin on the ball by twisting your wrist as you release the B button.

Jack is a keen bowler too but, being only 10, he gets tired after throwing the heavy balls around, he tells us. This doesn’t matter in Wii Sports Bowling so he can concentrate on simply enjoying the game. It seems like his dad's tutoring has rubbed off because, after listening to our quick explanation, he adds a little spin to the ball and scores a spare on his first try.

As Claire waits for her turn she comments on how funny the Wii Sports bowling alley looks. While you play, other Mii characters go about their business in the background; stepping up to bowl and milling around; making it look like a busy bowling alley. The realistic sound, too (a background hum of chattering voices and the crashing of falling pins) adds to the experience.

After a few tries our players have become used to bowling with the Wii Remote; now they're trying to perfect the angle of their shots. Like the real sport, it's a case of trial and error until you get it right. And when you do, it's worth it!

Fifteen minutes later and the game - and our preview session - is over. By now, everyone's forgotten about keeping score; they've been having so much fun; and the question on everyone's lips is the same: 'Where can we get a Wii?'

Wii Sports is bundled free with the Wii console, available from December 8."

EDIT: The queues in Japan are longer for the DS Lite than they are for the PS3: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/744/744967p1.html
 
Thanks Reginald! Great article, really want mine now! :(

Hopefully I will get it before Christmas, even though release is 8th, I doubt I will get it then.
 
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I'm sure it is. Only, the one in that pic isn't plugged in.
 
I'll hopefully get the change to play one on Saterday. BTW, an article in the Independant today refered to the Wii as "Nintendo's new handheld". I know it's small, but I'd hardly want to carry around a Wii, a TV and a generator on the bus with me :p
 
I'll hopefully get the change to play one on Saterday. BTW, an article in the Independant today refered to the Wii as "Nintendo's new handheld". I know it's small, but I'd hardly want to carry around a Wii, a TV and a generator on the bus with me :p

the power supply is probably bigger than the Wii...


What is that thing the 360 is standing on?
 
Man im at a bind right now to get the wii or the 360, I don't want both but I do want gears of war. I plan on getting the core system and later buying hdmi cables and a external hdd
 
:O so is Wii on demo yet on teh stores? I definetly wanna check this thing out for sure! Is there a list of stores with it or do i have to hunt around 10 of them in my town?
 
Haha, not until the 19th. And most of the big chains should have them.
 
Yup- ill be at wal-mart in line on sat. night :D

i heard from a few diff websites it will be up a few days before the 19th (before ps3 launch) so it can attract people that are going to gamestop to buy ps3
 
Man im at a bind right now to get the wii or the 360, I don't want both but I do want gears of war. I plan on getting the core system and later buying hdmi cables and a external hdd
If you plan on ever connecting to Xbox Live whatsoever, you save a lot more money by going Premium. For $100 more, you get the HDD ($100 on its own), a wireless controller instead of a wired one, and a headset, so you save something like $50-70.

Also, when I went to pick up Gears, I noticed that there was an empty and folded Wii retail box behind the counter (they didn't even make an attempt to hide it :p), and there were two big UPS boxes at the very back of the store. Naturally, I put two and two together and deduced that my EB not only has a Wii, but also two very big boxes from UPS.
 
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