Jackson verdict in

[Lemonking]

well I think hes guitly..kinda. but hes famous and black a person like thats will never get convicted

 

[T.H.C.138]

that is sick..goddamned corrupt media and legal system..no adult who is not related should be allowed to sleep with children..just seems wrong to me..I think he did it,but to him it is "a beautiful thing" because he is sooo messed up in the head..

he sees nothing wrong with it at all,but dammit it is wrong..what happened to all the evidence found around his home? something about underage porno in the dresser drawer? wine and other alcohol stashed in the bedroom and bathroom? WTF!?

maybe that was dismissed as "inadmissable evidence" or whatever they call it..lovely world..

this next is just my opinion...

OJ and MJ did it!! yet the guilty walk free while the real victims are turned into the criminals or objects of ridicule..like the burglar that slips on the stairs and sues...and wins?!?

 

[Raxxman]

personally I don't think he's innocent of all the charges.

Giving alcohol to minors woul be my guess.

You can't try celebs, it's like OJ, a show trial is hardly a fair one. People on both sides made their own minds up a long time ago

 

[CrazyHarij]

Erm, he wasn't naked and he's even stated that he slept in the same room, but not the same bed!

What you've gotta realise is that this dude has had a WIERD (for want of a better word) life-style. From the age of 4 he was doing a full time job and has basically regressed from being an adult very young to doing childish things as an older man.. (basically the opposite way that everyone else does it).

Took the words right out of my mouth. I feel sorry for MJ because he's obviously a very strange man, but he does have reasons for this.

I remember when I was little and had sleep-togethers with friends where we watched movies etc, it was great and the way Michael speaks about these things honestly make my believe he's got the same innocent look at it.

He's just very unfortunate, after all he is a man looking for his lost childhood.

 

[Raziaar]

I wish republicans would be as quick to judge the justice system when a innocent black person gets convicted. Never hear an outrage from them on that.

What? Are you accusing me of being racist, or less sympathetic to black people? And the entire republican party as well? You sir... are incredibly ignorant. If I catch wind about cases regarding people I feel to be innocent, and convicted... I will most certainly feel outrage in the system.

So quit being so quick to label people as racist, which is basically what you do by what you say. I like to treat all people in my country as equals, because they are.

 

[Raziaar]

that is sick..goddamned corrupt media and legal system..no adult who is not related should be allowed to sleep with children..just seems wrong to me..I think he did it,but to him it is "a beautiful thing" because he is sooo messed up in the head..

he sees nothing wrong with it at all,but dammit it is wrong..what happened to all the evidence found around his home? something about underage porno in the dresser drawer? wine and other alcohol stashed in the bedroom and bathroom? WTF!?

maybe that was dismissed as "inadmissable evidence" or whatever they call it..lovely world..

this next is just my opinion...

OJ and MJ did it!! yet the guilty walk free while the real victims are turned into the criminals or objects of ridicule..like the burglar that slips on the stairs and sues...and wins?!?

Or the burglar who falls on the knife, and wins.

 

[A True Canadian]

He's just very unfortunate, after all he is a man looking for his lost childhood.

You made it sound so sad. ;(

 

[Raziaar]

I'm just disturbed to think of what will happen when the newest wave of child molesters start giving out this defense that they are trying to recapture their lost childhood by sleeping with other peoples kids. And i'm talking about unknown child molestors. Will you treat these people with the same attitude, or not, because they are just a normal joe?

 

[Shadow-warrior]

None of you guys can 'find or think him guilty', you knockers don't even know him and his case, so you can't even judge him.
The jury, with more evidence than we could ever know, found him not guilty and thats good enough for me.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

I say not guilty. What say you?

Not guilty. He's wierd, but its just not believable.

 

[Razor]

My only hope and wish is that Michael Jackson can get some sort of compensation out of this and get all his money back. I also hope he moves to a much more quieter area somewhere, he has already stated that he doesn't want to live in America anymore.

Justice has been done and Michael Jackson is innocent though, even though some of you think it was a farce like Judge Judy and that he was actually guilty. If you can come up with some new evidence that is 100% concrete and that the jury didn't see, then fine, if not, shut your cake hole.

 

[Foxtrot]

Another innocent black man being locked away by the prejudices of the white man...err nm.

 

[Lemonking]

lol hes not even really black anymore if you ask me

 

[CrazyHarij]

I think one of the jurymen put it good: The mother was the one starting the whole legal action, but if she knew what was going on, why did she let her kid visit Jackson again? No mother in their right mind would do that.

 

[Lemonking]

well yeah thats true but Il still think Jacko is a weirdo

 

[Yuri]

I think one of the jurymen put it good: The mother was the one starting the whole legal action, but if she knew what was going on, why did she let her kid visit Jackson again? No mother in their right mind would do that.

She stated that they were held there against their will. Also, they were dirt-f*cking poor.

GOOD THING EVIL RASICT AMEIRICA DIDNT CONVICET AN INNOCANT BLAKC MAN! :monkee:

I seriously love all these people here that *know* if he is innocent or guilty. Sorry, you weren't there. So shut the hell up, either way. I personally think that he did do it, according to the prosecution's testimony, but I don't know that he did it for sure. But even if he did, I think everyone knew that he would get off, since that is what happens in the US. Rich people are always innocent, even if they kill their wives/standerbys, shoot limo drivers with a shotgun, rape a woman, drunk drive, or molest children. I'm not saying he did it, I'm just saying I think he probably did.

 

[mortiz]

I think they probably would have found him guilty on one of the minor charges ( giving kids booze ) if it wasn't for the fact that he probably wouldn't have been able to handle prison, physically and mentally. I bet that influenced their decision somewhat.

 

[Yuri]

I think they probably would have found him guilty on one of the minor charges ( giving kids booze ) if it wasn't for the fact that he probably wouldn't have been able to handle prison, physically and mentally. I bet that influenced their decision somewhat.

That isn't base for influencing a decision, at all, that's not how our justice system works. Aww, poor Micheal, he is allowed to give kids booze cuz he can't handle prison.

 

[15357]

I pity him......

 

[No Limit]

What? Are you accusing me of being racist, or less sympathetic to black people? And the entire republican party as well? You sir... are incredibly ignorant. If I catch wind about cases regarding people I feel to be innocent, and convicted... I will most certainly feel outrage in the system.

So quit being so quick to label people as racist, which is basically what you do by what you say. I like to treat all people in my country as equals, because they are.

Umm, earth to Raziaar. I didn't accuse you of anything; I accused the Republican party of not giving a shit. Here is an example of a democratic governor standing up for a black man that was convicted wrongly:

http://www.prisonpotpourri.com/EXEC...tim, or continued threat - Jan_ 28, 2004.html

and from that article here is what your republican friends were trying to do:

That decision made him eligible for parole in 1996, but two Republican successors, Gov. Tom Ridge and Gov. Mark Schweiker, refused to release him. As recently as last spring, parole officials argued that Mickens-Thomas remained an "unrepentant dangerous sexual offender."

So please, spare me. I am yet to see any post from any Republican condeming our justice system when it is unfair; look around the politics board, I know I made a couple posts about this in the past. There was one about a guy getting 25 years to life for petty burglary and every republican that went in there was perfectly fine with the punishment.

And your posts from here are proof enough of this. You want to send MJ to prison for the rest of his life because he sleeps in the same room with children and the fact that the people accusing him are total frauds that tried to get money from other legal cases before doesn't matter to you.

 

[No Limit]

That isn't base for influencing a decision, at all, that's not how our justice system works. Aww, poor Micheal, he is allowed to give kids booze cuz he can't handle prison.

The problem with the booze is that witnesses testified that the kid and his brother were actually stealing wine from him and getting drunk on their own. Again, reasonable doubt.

 

[Raxxman]

I heard on the radio the Jury were still suspect on abuse, but not on this child. Careful wording, but they found him innocent of abusing this child, not every child.

 

[The Mullinator]

Hes weird but I was always pretty sure he was innocent. The molestation charges sounded completely blown out of porportion and the giving alcohal to minors charge really isn't such a bad thing since just about every parent out there is guilty of letting their kids have a beer or a glass of wine.

He is not a normal person in any sense but he is certainly not a bad person that needs to be punished.

 

[SimonomiS]

Yeah, he might be strange in some people's views, but that doesn't make him guilty. Although even if he was, I'm not sure if I would have taken the family's word for it, kind of the boy who cried wolf.

Something like she lied previously in court, tried to sue JC Penny with a bruise inflicted by her own husband, she just claimed the security guard did it and instructed her kids to lie in a custody case over them. :|

Plus, if she thought he was molesting him, but allowed him to carry on going for the money, isn't that effectively pimping out her own son? In her mind anyway...

 

[GoJan]

He looks ugly but looks like a nice guy, I didn't really believe he did that stuff.

 

[Jangle]

if he is genuinely not guilty, he is still very stupid for doing things that could raise questions about his relationships with kids, when theres so many people who want to make money from him.

 

[Yuri]

Yeah, he might be strange in some people's views, but that doesn't make him guilty. Although even if he was, I'm not sure if I would have taken the family's word for it, kind of the boy who cried wolf.

Wait, you mean the BOYS who cried wolf?

Everyone seems to ignore that this is NOT the first time this has been accused of Micheal. It isn't the second time, either. Or the third time. I don't know the exact number, but it was several kids that all accused him of this. And you know what? All of the families were paid off. And what of the kids who slept in his room that say he didn't do anything?

Well, in the prosecution's closing statement, they showed pictures and the backgrounds of the several kids that were paid off. Then they showed pictures of the kids who testified that he did nothing of the sort. The paid-off kids all had a similar look to them, and they all came from poor families. The kids who said nothing happened all looked much different, and were not poor, like that Home Alone kid.

That in my opinion seems to set it for me. I can't say for certain that he is guilty, and I need to know a lot more. But that is some evidence right there.

Also, No Limit, could you stop generalizing the Republican party and calling it evil even though it has no bearing on the subject at all? Thanks.

 

[No Limit]

Wait, you mean the BOYS who cried wolf?

Everyone seems to ignore that this is NOT the first time this has been accused of Micheal. It isn't the second time, either. Or the third time. I don't know the exact number, but it was several kids that all accused him of this. And you know what? All of the families were paid off. And what of the kids who slept in his room that say he didn't do anything?

Well, in the prosecution's closing statement, they showed pictures and the backgrounds of the several kids that were paid off. Then they showed pictures of the kids who testified that he did nothing of the sort. The paid-off kids all had a similar look to them, and they all came from poor families. The kids who said nothing happened all looked much different, and were not poor, like that Home Alone kid.

That in my opinion seems to set it for me. I can't say for certain that he is guilty, and I need to know a lot more. But that is some evidence right there.

But you seem to forget all those kids were not the accusers and frankly were irrelevant to this case.

Also, No Limit, could you stop generalizing the Republican party and calling it evil even though it has no bearing on the subject at all? Thanks.

I am not generalizing anything. I post facts, not generalizations. The article is up there; democrats were trying to get this guy parole after 3 decades and Republicans were trying to stop them. When I posted a thread about a black guy getting 25 to life for burglary all Republicans that posted were perfectly fine with it. I am not generalizing anything; the simple fact is most will bitch about a black guy that probably should have been convicted and stay quiet when an injustice is done to someone else. Prove me wrong.

And it has something to do with the post in the context I posted; he was pissed that a guy got off just like OJ and I asked why he didn't bitch about other cases.

 

[No Limit]

Or the burglar who falls on the knife, and wins.

Link? I'd love to see that.

 

[Razor]

Wait, you mean the BOYS who cried wolf?

Everyone seems to ignore that this is NOT the first time this has been accused of Micheal. It isn't the second time, either. Or the third time. I don't know the exact number, but it was several kids that all accused him of this. And you know what? All of the families were paid off. And what of the kids who slept in his room that say he didn't do anything?

Well, in the prosecution's closing statement, they showed pictures and the backgrounds of the several kids that were paid off. Then they showed pictures of the kids who testified that he did nothing of the sort. The paid-off kids all had a similar look to them, and they all came from poor families. The kids who said nothing happened all looked much different, and were not poor, like that Home Alone kid.

That in my opinion seems to set it for me. I can't say for certain that he is guilty, and I need to know a lot more. But that is some evidence right there.

Also, No Limit, could you stop generalizing the Republican party and calling it evil even though it has no bearing on the subject at all? Thanks.

Perhaps it is a case of kids or parents lying to get money from him?

I think the worst thing Jackson ever did was to pay off the first kid, he should of gone to court and got found innocent. But Jackson has had his name, his reputation, his family, his personal life and everything else he holds dear dragged through the mud by a bunch of money grabbing arseholes as well as the media.

 

[Raziaar]

Link? I'd love to see that.

Trying to find the link for that. Someone had mentioned it to me, a burglar who broke into a woman's house, and cut himself on a knife that was in the kitchen. Suing and won.

But anyways... here's an interesting link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/uk/1493967.stm

This woman told she cannot use anti-climb paint, because if a burglar so happened to climb and get hurt, he could sue... and they didn't want potential burglars getting hurt.

 

[A True Canadian]

Anti-climb paint??



..wtf

 

[Raziaar]

Anti-climb paint??



..wtf

http://www.decoratingdirect.co.uk/viewprod/t/TORACP/

 

[No Limit]

Trying to find the link for that. Someone had mentioned it to me, a burglar who broke into a woman's house, and cut himself on a knife that was in the kitchen. Suing and won.

Sorry, I had to do that to you so you would actually look for it. What you are repeating is a couple lines from the movie Liar Liar starring Jim Carey; I don't think it ever actually happened as I haven't been able to find anything. Seems like an urban legend to me.

 

[Raziaar]

Sorry, I had to do that to you so you would actually look for it. What you are repeating is a couple lines from the movie Liar Liar starring Jim Carey; I don't think it ever actually happened as I haven't been able to find anything. Seems like an urban legend to me.

Really? I don't know... it might be. But that kind of stuff happens, burglars sue the people they rob, and sometimes even win. Kinda pathetic.

 

[Yuri]

But you seem to forget all those kids were not the accusers and frankly were irrelevant to this case.

I don't think I forgot it. In fact, I said that they didn't accuse in this case because they were paid millions of dollars each. Does that sound normal to you?

I am not generalizing anything. I post facts, not generalizations. The article is up there; democrats were trying to get this guy parole after 3 decades and Republicans were trying to stop them. When I posted a thread about a black guy getting 25 to life for burglary all Republicans that posted were perfectly fine with it. I am not generalizing anything; the simple fact is most will bitch about a black guy that probably should have been convicted and stay quiet when an injustice is done to someone else. Prove me wrong.

And it has something to do with the post in the context I posted; he was pissed that a guy got off just like OJ and I asked why he didn't bitch about other cases.

Dude, seriously, just stop. It's ridiculous. Did you want Raziaar to complain about more than just the Jackson case? That wouldn't make any sense. And just because some obscure example of Republicans being stupid, it doesn't give you the right to just suddenly blurt out "Republicans are racist!" in the middle of threads for no reason.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Guilty in the past of molestation, but in this specific case not guilty.

 

[Raziaar]

Guilty in the past of molestation, but in this specific case not guilty.

I can agree with that. I honestly didn't follow this case too closely. But I believe Michael is a perverted man, very capable and willing to do what has been accused of him.

 

[RomeoDude]

He's guilty he knows those children didnt wana get drilled but nooooo just because he has money ppl say he ise't guilty

 

[Razor]

I can agree with that. I honestly didn't follow this case too closely. But I believe Michael is a perverted man, very capable and willing to do what has been accused of him.

Has he been found guilty in a court of law of child sex?