katrina victims trashing places, etc.

[john121]

how did Time Warner not pay any income tax? that's the real question.. how.. and, how does that have ANYTHING to do with helping the hurricane victims?

 

[CptStern]

let me clarify a bit. It's not that they didnt pay taxes. Time warner received refunds totalling 457 million effectively putting their tax rate at -7.3% ...they made money. They did this through various loopholes.


this explains it pretty well

 

[T.H.C.138]

so because of Time Warner milking the system you aren't going to do anything?

just seemed kind of..out of "left" field! sorry I couldn't resist...again sorry!



remember it was the white devil who sold his own kind in africa....oops my mistake

it was the white devil who gave the record deals! thats the one!

think about it...if it weren't for slavery we wouldn't have had tupac, wu tang the jackson 5...jimi hendrix...so it wasn't ALL bad in the long run

the possibilities here in america for a black person are astronomical compared to the same person in africa..

BUT, the "thug life" isn't always sweet like in the music videos..




"oh the world owes me a living" said the grasshopper to the ant

sounds like what I hear from alot of the homeless around my area..

you give them money and they get drunk..

give them food and they might throw it at you,because they asked for $$

2 of them out of the 30 or more have actually tried to better themselves...them I have helped..

the others? **** them

 

[Solaris]

Are you really that big of an asshole??

Your justifying slavery by using an anti racist rap singer, is a disgrace to him and all black people.

the possibilities here in america for a black person are astronomical compared to the same person in africa..

not for the slaves it wasn't.

Why not just open the borders then you can help black people without having to get them here as slaves first.

I think what you have said qualifies for a ban.
Its disgusting.

 

[Top Secret]

Are you really that big of an asshole??

Your justifying slavery by using an anti racist rap singer, is a disgrace to him and all black people.

not for the slaves it wasn't.

Why not just open the borders then you can help black people without having to get them here as slaves first.

I think what you have said qualifies for a ban.
Its disgusting.

And what about you? Mr. High and mighty? Your statement is borderline retardism.

Not for the slaves it wasn't? Why, you're right. Unfortunately, that was more than a hundred years ago. Civil rights? Almost 50. Why not open the borders? What a stupid comment. Maybe because admitting millions of citizens at once would drain the economy? Yeah, that's a good idea. Let's all just **** ourselves.

Yeah, his statement wasn't genius either, granted. Slavery sucked. But I am so god damn sick and tired for paying for something that I had nothing to do with. Put a sock in it.

Idiocy.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Very true. If you want to fight crime, fight the roots, fight poverty. Today 37 million Americans live in poverty, is that acceptable in a industrialized country?

Whose fault is that?

EDIT:
Violent crime race statistics:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

And for those that say poverty causes crime:
http://www.netstate.com/states/alma/wv_alma.htm

 

[No Limit]

Whose fault is that?

Let me get this straight, you are saying crime is caused by black people and not poverty?

EDIT:
Violent crime race statistics:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

Poverty by race statistics:

http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Stats_incpov.html

See any correlation?

And for those that say poverty causes crime:
http://www.netstate.com/states/alma/wv_alma.htm

Can you explain, this is about the same as most large cities in the US.

 

[Lemonking]

btw No Limit now where in that whole book (The end of Racism) does it say that
the civil rights act should be with drawn!

 

[MiccyNarc]

Let me get this straight, you are saying crime is caused by black people and not poverty?

I'm saying crime is caused by human nature.

Poverty by race statistics:

http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Stats_incpov.html

See any correlation?

Which came first? Chicken (crime) or the egg (poverty)?
Can it be proven that they are related?

Can you explain, this is about the same as most large cities in the US.

West Virginia (a state) is one of the poorest in the nation. It also has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation.

Poverty does not equal crime.

 

[Solaris]

I agree.

IMO poverty causes crime.

 

[john121]

i believe poverty can be a factor in causing crime, BUT- the people who are in poverty do have the strength to rise above the path to crime and make something of themselves, work hard and get a good education.


if anyone wants an example, my g/f came from a broken home as well as a poor home. She herself admits this, BUT- she also got out there, worked her butt off through high school to get a scholarship to got to college and get an associate's degree. Now she works two jobs, has an apartment and is looking for a better job. She has also rejected food stamps even though she probably could have qualified for them in the beginning simply because she felt like she could do it on her own. Guess what? she did make it on her own without any help at all.

If she can turn her life around and make it by herself than anyone can. This is what I expect from anyone who has lived in a lower class home and I don't think it's too much. If recieving food stamps bad? no, but they are there to help you get back on your feet and support yourself, that is what the system was created for.

 

[MiccyNarc]

i believe poverty can be a factor in causing crime, BUT- the people who are in poverty do have the strength to rise above the path to crime and make something of themselves, work hard and get a good education.


if anyone wants an example, my g/f came from a broken home as well as a poor home. She herself admits this, BUT- she also got out there, worked her butt off through high school to get a scholarship to got to college and get an associate's degree. Now she works two jobs, has an apartment and is looking for a better job. She has also rejected food stamps even though she probably could have qualified for them in the beginning simply because she felt like she could do it on her own. Guess what? she did make it on her own without any help at all.

If she can turn her life around and make it by herself than anyone can. This is what I expect from anyone who has lived in a lower class home and I don't think it's too much. If recieving food stamps bad? no, but they are there to help you get back on your feet and support yourself, that is what the system was created for.

I like you. I like your g/f too.
You both rock, many happy years together.

 

[No Limit]

West Virginia (a state) is one of the poorest in the nation. It also has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation.

You really can't look at a sample like that and come to that conclusion because of the large gap between the wealthy and poor. The averages are really misleading, you would need to look at the statistics of each metro area. Look at statistics below.

Poverty does not equal crime.

Statistics disagree:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus/current/cv0314.pdf

 

[MiccyNarc]

I still can't believe you make the statement "if you're poor you commit crimes".
What a load of bull. Maybe these people are poor because they are low life scum that can't keep a decent job. They also commit crimes, because they are low life scum.
I'm not saying that all poor people are all lowlife scum. But all those who commit crimes are lowlife scum, and a good number of them happen to be poor.

Or maybe they are poor because they commit crimes.

Again, what came first? The chicken or the egg?

Why don't these people get their act together instead of killing others? What does killing others have to do with getting them money?
You can't prove that poverty causes crime. I still haven't heard a rational explanation for that. How is it our fault they are poor?

 

[Lemonking]

"ey whitey I just dig my thug life here in da hood,jobs are fo pussys jooo"



serioulsy I agree with you.

like my dad says there is nox exsuse for not having a job or "making it in life"
"work hard and If you arent so smart then work harder"

 

[MiccyNarc]

Precisely. Even if you don't have an education, there are plenty of jobs that any idiot can do (including run for President!) that won't result in someone getting killed (well except for running for President :-\)

 

[No Limit]

I still can't believe you make the statement "if you're poor you commit crimes".
What a load of bull. Maybe these people are poor because they are low life scum that can't keep a decent job. They also commit crimes, because they are low life scum.
I'm not saying that all poor people are all lowlife scum. But all those who commit crimes are lowlife scum, and a good number of them happen to be poor.

Or maybe they are poor because they commit crimes.

Again, what came first? The chicken or the egg?

Why don't these people get their act together instead of killing others? What does killing others have to do with getting them money?
You can't prove that poverty causes crime. I still haven't heard a rational explanation for that. How is it our fault they are poor?

Have you ever been poor? I mean, poor, where you are making 7K a year and have 2 children to support. Have you ever lived in an area diseased with drug addiction? Were you born in to a family of where you didn't know your father, all you had was a crack head mother? If you haven't let me say this, you don't have a ****ing clue as to what you are talking about. Yes, these people might be low life scum right now as you so eloquently put it; but to say it is all their fault shows how out of touch you are with reality. I posted statistics that back me up, that poverty and crime go hand in hand. You have this mentality where you think that just because you came out well other people have the same exact opportunites as you; reality check, they don't.

 

[No Limit]

Precisely. Even if you don't have an education, there are plenty of jobs that any idiot can do (including run for President!) that won't result in someone getting killed (well except for running for President :-\)

Yeah, great jobs such as making 5.15 an hour at your local burger king. But let me guess, these people can work 80 hours a week and make double that.

 

[Lemonking]

No Limit my Family wasnt the richest and my dad got his eduacaton and e earns
100k a year now and you dont have a job STOP POPPING OUT KIDS FFS

 

[MiccyNarc]

Have you ever been poor? I mean, poor, where you are making 7K a year and have 2 children to support.

My dad was without a job for a year and a half, with a wife and 2 kids to support.

Does that count? Might I add we are all living comfortably now because he found work.

Have you ever lived in an area diseased with drug addiction?

I hope you aren't saying drug addiction is an excuse for crime and poverty.

Were you born in to a family of where you didn't know your father, all you had was a crack head mother?

No, I haven't.

And for all those questions, I'd like you to answer them as well.

If you haven't let me say this, you don't have a ****ing clue as to what you are talking about

I know people who have been in all of these situations, and who have recovered from those circumstances, moved on, and made something productive out of their lives.

Yes, these people might be low life scum right now as you so eloquently put it; but to say it is all their fault shows how out of touch you are with reality.

I never said the poor were low life scum. Those who commit crimes are low life scum. And yes, they have a CHOICE whether or not to commit that crime.
Poverty does not remove free will. It is their fault if they commit a crime.

I posted statistics that back me up, that poverty and crime go hand in hand.

Chicken or egg?
Hate to break it to you, but it's not the black and white issue you are making it out to be.

You have this mentality where you think that just because you came out well other people have the same exact opportunites as you;

Huh, I never realized that. Thank you for pointing that out! It's always nice when people tell me new facts about myself that they've gathered from a few posts on the internet. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy deep down inside.

reality check, they don't.

No kidding! Really? *shock*
We are all born with free will.

Yeah, great jobs such as making 5.15 an hour at your local burger king. But let me guess, these people can work 80 hours a week and make double that.

Oh noes! They aren't comfortable! So this gives them the excuse to go out and commit crime? And how is it my fault that the only job they can get is at Burger King?

I ask again:
WHY DO POOR PEOPLE COMMIT CRIMES?

 

[Lemonking]

like me said whitey jobs are fo pussys I like my thug life in da hood I,d rather cap someone then making a burger ya'all


some people simply dont wanna "be something" in their lifes they wanna stay poor and pop out more kids and there for inserting there kids in2 poverty

 

[No Limit]

My dad was without a job for a year and a half, with a wife and 2 kids to support.

Does that count? Might I add we are all living comfortably now because he found work.

Really??? He didn't get any benefits what so ever? Where did you get your money from at the time?

I hope you aren't saying drug addiction is an excuse for crime and poverty.

I'm saying drug abuse is a plague. You, however, would have no understanding of this as you never lived in a community that was devestated by drug addiction. It is people like you that say, hey, why don't they just quite? :angel:

No, I haven't.

I know people who have been in all of these situations, and who have recovered from those circumstances, moved on, and made something productive out of their lives.

Translation: No, I haven't.

I never said the poor were low life scum. Those who commit crimes are low life scum. And yes, they have a CHOICE whether or not to commit that crime.
Poverty does not remove free will. It is their fault if they commit a crime.

Again, you are completely out of touch with reality. When you give someone the option of stealing and living well to going to a 5.15 /hr job where you have to work 80 hours a week to survive which choice to you think they will take? Why do you think drugs is such a huge problem in poor areas, let me help you out. Because instead of going to work to a dead end job a lot of these kids, where everyone around them is doing extremely well selling drugs, would much rather have those new sneakers and a nice car along with respect. But again, you wouldn't know much about that, its just much easier to say they are low life scum.

Chicken or egg?
Hate to break it to you, but it's not the black and white issue you are making it out to be.

Again, its a poverty issue. Poverty, as well as crime, have been around since beginning of time.

Huh, I never realized that. Thank you for pointing that out! It's always nice when people tell me new facts about myself that they've gathered from a few posts on the internet. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy deep down inside.

How was I wrong, care to point it out?

Oh noes! They aren't comfortable! So this gives them the excuse to go out and commit crime? And how is it my fault that the only job they can get is at Burger King?

Again, you don't know jack shit. it is easy to say people can work 5.15 /hr jobs as long as you aren't the one that has to do. Who's fault is it? Well why don't you start by looking at how much funding a school gets depending on the income level the houses around it are. You are a complete idiot if you honstly believe a kid born in Bronx to drug addiction will come out as well off as a kid raised with 2 parents in the suburbs of orange county.

 

[T.H.C.138]

Are you really that big of an asshole??

Your justifying slavery by using an anti racist rap singer, is a disgrace to him and all black people.

not for the slaves it wasn't.

Why not just open the borders then you can help black people without having to get them here as slaves first.

I think what you have said qualifies for a ban.
Its disgusting.

you sir are foolish...I think your derogatory comments towards me deserve a ban..

I wasn't justifying slavery itself...I was talking about TODAY..if it wasn't for the bad things of the past the good things of today wouldn't be possible..

what would tupac have done if he had been born in africa?

that is the point I was trying to make..


people care too much about 200+ years ago and not enough about today

the grasshopper and the ants...sort of..

you enslaved my ancestors so now you owe me so I don't have to work I can just blame "the man" for all my problems...

racial equality at its finest!

and BTW if you can't see any truth in that you must be very blind and/or close minded


if it wasn't for slavery my woman wouldn't have been here for me to meet

and also many of my friends wouldn't be here either...

slavery sucked but lets try to look at the benefits NOW and quit dwelling IN the past

learn from it then leave it be instead of dragging it out everyday like it was fresh and new

 

[No Limit]

you sir are foolish...I think your derogatory comments towards me deserve a ban..

I wasn't justifying slavery itself...I was talking about TODAY..if it wasn't for the bad things of the past the good things of today wouldn't be possible..

what would tupac have done if he had been born in africa?

that is the point I was trying to make..


people care too much about 200+ years ago and not enough about today

the grasshopper and the ants...sort of..

you enslaved my ancestors so now you owe me so I don't have to work I can just blame "the man" for all my problems...

racial equality at its finest!

and BTW if you can't see any truth in that you must be very blind and/or close minded


if it wasn't for slavery my woman wouldn't have been here for me to meet

and also many of my friends wouldn't be here either...

slavery sucked but lets try to look at the benefits NOW and quit dwelling IN the past

learn from it then leave it be instead of dragging it out everyday like it was fresh and new

You are also so out of touch with reality that its kind of depressing to know people in this country actually think that way. First off, very few blacks are actually asking for something in return for slavery; most have moved on. However, it is 100% true that the poverty of today's blacks is directly related to slavery and other civil rights issues that didn't stop until just 4 decades ago; which means most of today's blacks were directly affected by it. It is foolish for you to think that slave traders in the 1800s breeding the dumbest slaves they could find to whites in 1960 forcing blacks to live in poverty has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on today.

 

[Solaris]

you sir are foolish...I think your derogatory comments towards me deserve a ban..

I wasn't justifying slavery itself...I was talking about TODAY..if it wasn't for the bad things of the past the good things of today wouldn't be possible..

what would tupac have done if he had been born in africa?

that is the point I was trying to make..


people care too much about 200+ years ago and not enough about today

the grasshopper and the ants...sort of..

you enslaved my ancestors so now you owe me so I don't have to work I can just blame "the man" for all my problems...

racial equality at its finest!

and BTW if you can't see any truth in that you must be very blind and/or close minded


if it wasn't for slavery my woman wouldn't have been here for me to meet

and also many of my friends wouldn't be here either...

slavery sucked but lets try to look at the benefits NOW and quit dwelling IN the past

learn from it then leave it be instead of dragging it out everyday like it was fresh and new

I cant belive what your saying.
Your patronising slavery. It was absolutly disgusting, packing a thousand people into a slave ship for a month, Id rather die. Its pretty much torture, and then you have the nerve to try and make it sound all right by highlighting the good things that came out of it. The good bad ratio in slavery is like 1 good thing for a million bad.

Black people are proud of there roots, but also angry at how they had been abused in the past. What youve just said is an insult to the millions of lives that were destroying by arrogant capitalist imperilast policies that DEVASTATED africa. And it wasnt just slavery in the past. What about the support your government has for Dictators in africa who hoard the wealth. Or how it will only cancel the crippiling debts if they adopt privatising everything to US companies which would cripple there public services, and destroy what crappy hospitlas are already in place.

The government puts Profit before lifes.

Im off topic, but you P*****d me off so badly, I went on a rant.

 

[CptStern]

if it wasn't for slavery my woman wouldn't have been here for me to meet

dont have much time for a proper response ..but holy shit could you be more selfish?

 

[T.H.C.138]

you are right..

I have noticed however,the people who complain about the state of their lives usually are the problem in their lives...

but its my fault for being born white?? I don't agree with that..

how is it my fault that shit went down before I was born?

I am not the only one here seriously out of touch with REALITY..


reality? the reality of it is, 3 KIDS(16 or under) have been stabbed,shot and one was beaten with a baseball bat by these ****ing thugs right in my neighborhood..because they walked over to McDonalds and these pricks saw prey in the last week

who should be glorified? the guys screaming "yo dog! you ****ed that nigga up!!" or someone else?

me I'd go with someone else...but then again you all seem to believe I am racist..

thugs come in all different flavors,its not a race thing for me..I am predjudiced,yes I am...but against thugs not skin colors

even if you aren't a "thug" why glorify it? why glorify the CRIMINAL?

may as well worship Ed Gein or Albert Fish...why not?

if its "tight" to talk about cappin fools and hittin them bitches,why isn't it "tight" to go on about cannibalism? or sexual deviants?

oh thats right because those are criminal acts...





oh for ****s sake Stern!! you missed the point entirely. or carefully quoted only the bad view..can you be any more dramatic?

oh well,gotta play the blame game some more don't we? never read further than you want to into any post..

I was going to edit this but **** it...why should I bother?

 

[No Limit]

What the hell are you talking about? You are a down right racist, I can't believe this shit.

First off, nobody is blaming you for slavery. Find me on black leader ever saying such a thing.

Second, I can't believe you said blacks are using slavery as an excuse to commit crime, seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? What blacks, and many whites such as myself, are saying is that the policies of whites in the last 300 years have directly lead to what is happening today. What happened in the past is not your fault, but if you sit here and pretend that blacks should only blame themselves it is your fault that we have so many racial issues in this country and people like you are the reason they continue to live in poverty.

 

[No Limit]

One more thing, show me one example of blacks glorifying the beating you pointed to or anything similar. I'm dying to hear this. Yes, I know:

http://www.lyrics.com

But trust me, I am prepared for the argument you are about to bring in here.

 

[T.H.C.138]

walk outside your house and go hang out with these thugs...not blacks...but criminals..you will hear it..

white black brown yellow and green they are all criminals

I am soo glad you are prepared..what would we have done otherwise?

pick the worst aspect of a post and twist until it fits...oh wait thats what has been going on..

and you already know exactly what I am going to say?psychic abilities abound!

No Limit,there is No Point in this..but true to your name of course it will go on...and on....

 

[No Limit]

walk outside your house and go hang out with these criminals...not blacks...but criminals..you will hear it..

I am soo glad you are prepared..what would we have done otherwise?

pick the worst aspect of any post and twist until it fits...oh wait thats what has been going on..

Still waiting for examples you racist prick. (Yes, you just directly related blacks to criminals, your little disclaimer doesn't mean shit)

 

[T.H.C.138]

thugs come in all different flavors,its not a race thing for me..I am predjudiced,yes I am...but against thugs not skin colors

even if you aren't a "thug" why glorify it? why glorify the CRIMINAL?

apparently some of us have poor eyesight

and whats with the hostility? "racist prick"?

and besides, I gave you an example of where to hear such talk and activities...but if your scared...I perfectly understand..I don't like to be around criminals either...

kind of dangerous

and you seem to be purposefully mis-interpreting what I posted..again...and again

fine I surrender...

you are vastly more eloquent and knowledgable about MY experiences than I myself am...

 

[No Limit]

apparently some of us have poor eyesight

and whats with the hostility? "racist prick"?

grow up

Still waiting for examples.

 

[T.H.C.138]

re-read previous post

especially the last part..

thank you!

 

[No Limit]

re-read previous post

especially the last part..

thank you!

Your go out and talk to black people post wont cut it as an example, I've had many black friends in my day, some better off than me, others not doing as well but still doing all they could and others addicted to drugs and others that were 'criminals' as you describe them; I have never heard any of them glorify murder like you said they would. So I am still waiting for examples.

 

[T.H.C.138]

I guess you live in a nicer area than I do..

and as such have had much different experiences with people..

hmm soo maybe I am NOT so racist after all?

maybe I just have had different experiences than you have?

maybe my writing skills aren't all that great and so what seems ok to me comes across as nazi-like hatred to you..

whatever..and besides where did I say go out and talk to black people?

I distinctly remember saying "go out and hang with some thugs..not blacks..thugs"

does this translate into go talk with black people?

not to me...but my writing skills are VASTLY inferior..so maybe I have been misunderstood by the elite of the forums..

again I SURRENDER TO YOUR VAST SUPERIORITY

my lowly opinions obviously have no place before those of the almighty..

the end

 

[No Limit]

You live in San Jose, I am not disputing that is a bad area but where I live, Albuquerque New Mexico (one of highest crime rates in country and triple the murder rate of San Jose) I have not seen what you speak of nor do I think you ever actually saw it (I've lived in the worst slums of this city, known as the war zone to the rich areas in the heights). All the poor people I've ran in to, black, white, asian, whatever, do what they can. Some have come up in a real shitty life and are still deep in the hole and they need some serious help; help people like you will not offer because you classify them as 'thugs'. Yes, there are thugs out there, that is not the point. The point is you are trying to say all poor blacks are thugs and will never be able to stand on their own 2 feet. You say everything bad that is happening to them is their own fault and they deserve no help. I say bullshit. But if you can't even understand your own argument I really can't help you out.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Really??? He didn't get any benefits what so ever? Where did you get your money from at the time?

He pretty much worked odd jobs during that time period.

Oh crap it's true! He worked and earned money to survive! *universe implodes*

is a plague. You, however, would have no understanding of this as you never lived in a community that was devestated by drug addiction. It is people like you that say, hey, why don't they just quite?

I've already asked you, have you been in these circumstances? If not, STFU with the "better-than-thou" attitude.
I have "been in" these areas, have friends that live in these areas, done work in these areas, I'm no stranger to their lives.
Oh yes, and my mother lived in a "bad neighborhood" for about 5 years. A single mom, 2 daughters, never resorted to crime/violence to survive. She worked for a living.

Translation: No, I haven't.

Have you?
I noticed how handily you ignored that question in my post. Good job!

Again, you are completely out of touch with reality.

. . .

When you give someone the option of stealing and living well to going to a 5.15 /hr job where you have to work 80 hours a week to survive which choice to you think they will take?

#1. There's a difference between stealing and killing/other violent crimes (which is what I'm mostly referring to with the crime stats)
#2. If these were decent human beings, they would take the hard labor.
I don't know how you can argue with that. 80 hours a week leaves 88 for the rest of your life, which is better than prison time, is it not?
I have sincere doubts that these people are so stupid that they would be stuck with a $5.15 an hour job for the rest of their life.

Again, its a poverty issue. Poverty, as well as crime, have been around since beginning of time.

How does poverty cause violent crime? How does poverty cause rape?

I can see how poverty causes theft/drug abuse. Unlike you, I don't think it's justified, but I can see the correlation. That doesn't mean I should think better of these people because of it.

How was I wrong, care to point it out?

Your statement was completely wrong. There's no other way of putting it.
But go ahead and plug your ears "lalala I'm right Miccy's wrong".

Again, you don't know jack shit. it is easy to say people can work 5.15 /hr jobs as long as you aren't the one that has to do.

I've worked for less than slave wages before, I'm still alive.

You are a complete idiot if you honstly believe a kid born in Bronx to drug addiction will come out as well off as a kid raised with 2 parents in the suburbs of orange county.

Quote me where I said that would be the case, please.


Hmm..now what were we debating again?

 

[T.H.C.138]

its a look, an attitude, a way of behaving, that has NOTHING to do with race..or money for that matter

I am predjudiced against the thug mentality..what the individuals race is has nothing to do with it..it is the actions of that person that affect my opinion

being poor is one thing..being a degenerate is entirely different and again has nothing to do with race or money

 

[gh0st]

no limit just shut the **** up... its not like you have any idea what its like to be poor. ive spent weeks in san francisco seattle and portland using my spring break just to help exactly the people youre talking about. quit trying to act like just because youre "liberal scum shit" you know what its like to be poor because ill bet my bollocks to a barn dance that at no point during your pampered and ignorant upbringing have you been exposed to anything resembling "poor".

275,400 black people are in jail. 317, 400 whites are in jail.
blacks are vastly disproportionately incarcerated when compared to the rest of the population. the main argument is because they are poorer (which is bullshit) or because they are just plain more violent than white people (which is also bullshit). hey maybe its a combination of both? i just encourage you to stop acting like such a ****ing know it all when you havent seen clinics full of hundreds of people dying of AIDS or lived in an orgphanage in tijuana, when youve spent most of your life in a marijuana induced haze with your thumb in your ass criticizing everything around you. thanks.