Law breakage.

CptStern said:
oh because salesmen are the creme de la creme of humaity, a veritable superhuman walking amongst mortals
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I said nothing of the sort. However, it does require complete dedication, extreme focus, lightning pace and hard graft. In my previous jobs I was always really quick at getting the job done, but here my manager is constantly in my face about being too slow.
70% of people burn out of recruitment within six months. It's an extremely difficult job.

the single most retarded person who works at my company also happens to be the best salesman ..I mean you cant to him about anything of any importance yet he somehow manages to outsell everyone else
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Sales is a BIG industry. Recruitment needs a lot more intelligence than most. What does your retard guy sell and who does he sell it to?
To expand on that a little bit, I actually do telesales recruitment and there is an enormous variation in what clients are looking for. One of my clients looks for professional, articulate, intelligent, graduate-calibre people to sell an expensive high-tech product to businesses, which has a sales cycle of around two months.
Another looks for rough around the edges, laddish types who've been successful in double glazing, windows or timeshare sales or something similar - very aggressive, very persistent, very hungry to close deals right there and then but not necessarily a whole lot of brains.
Your retard guy is probably closer to the second example.

oh and I'm a designer, my entire day is about sitting in front of a pc ...right now I'm printing out 1000 copies of brochure I developed recently ..meaning for the rest of the afternoon I have a choice of either watching the printer print brochures or surf the net ....
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Ah, well that's a bit different then.
I figured you were a manager of some kind. Sorry.
 
I'm a student, so I've done the general drunken mayhem things.

Nearly got arrested in both geneva and magaluf for various different things (just general havoc, minor silly theft [potted plants, ceiling tiles] and drunk and disorderlyness) but out ran the riot van with mates. Done the usual underage drinking bollocks, thats par for the course, same with drug experimentation.

But yeah, who can honestly say they've NEVER done anything like that - personally, I think you haven't lived.
 
Solaris said:
RepriV always trys the whole 'I'm the best salesman in the world' argument here.

It just doesn't work. Perhaps you should write a poem how you went from the ghetto to the boardroom or whatever. Either way, bragging about it doesn't make you seem any better a person.
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I'm not the best salesman in the world.
I do get sick of people like you whining on about how unfair life is and how we should redistribute the wealth because some people are just stuck at the bottom.
It's bullshit. I don't care whether it makes me seem like a better person or not, it isn't the point. The strong likelihood (based on statistical probability and what I know about people here) is that I've been given a harder hand in life than anyone else on this board, but I'm still here and doing well. My hunch is that you personally were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, and that you don't actually know shit about being poor or true hardship.
Take your politics of envy and shove it where the sun don't shine. Some of us have lives to lead.
 
repiV said:
I said nothing of the sort. However, it does require complete dedication, extreme focus, lightning pace and hard graft. In my previous jobs I was always really quick at getting the job done, but here my manager is constantly in my face about being too slow.
70% of people burn out of recruitment within six months. It's an extremely difficult job.
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you're a salesman ..it doesnt matter if your selling shoes or wmd you're still selling commodities people want/need



repiV said:
Sales is a BIG industry. Recruitment needs a lot more intelligence than most. What does your retard guy sell and who does he sell it to?
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we sell medical equipment to doctors, hospitals, clinics etc


repiV said:
To expand on that a little bit, I actually do telesales recruitment and there is an enormous variation in what clients are looking for. One of my clients looks for professional, articulate, intelligent, graduate-calibre people to sell an expensive high-tech product to businesses, which has a sales cycle of around two months.
Another looks for rough around the edges, laddish types who've been successful in double glazing, windows or timeshare sales or something similar - very aggressive, very persistent, very hungry to close deals right there and then but not necessarily a whole lot of brains.
Your retard guy is probably closer to the second example.
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lol my best friend does exactly what you do ..not dumb but he's not overly bright either ...knows how to talk to people but some of the things he says is cringe worthy



repiV said:
Ah, well that's a bit different then.
I figured you were a manager of some kind. Sorry.
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could I possibly be anything but a creative person?
 
CptStern said:
oh because salesmen are the creme de la creme of humaity, a veritable superhuman walking amongst mortals

the single most retarded person who works at my company also happens to be the best salesman ..I mean you cant talk to him about anything of any importance yet he somehow manages to outsell everyone else

oh and I'm a designer, my entire day is about sitting in front of a pc ...right now I'm printing out 1000 copies of brochure I developed recently ..meaning for the rest of the afternoon I have a choice of either watching the printer print brochures or surf the net ....
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do you play basketvball with the trash bin? :)
 
CptStern said:
you're a salesman ..it doesnt matter if your selling shoes or wmd you're still selling commodities people want/need
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Sorry, but sales is not that black and white. It doesn't take someone of intelligence to bash out 100 calls a day from a lead list and get results.
It does, however, take intelligence to balance finding your own leads, turning these leads into customers (which can take years for big accounts) and then actually providing them with suitable candidates, retaining them as customers and building a network of quality candidates and constantly hunting for new business. There is a lot more to the process than you would think. To me, it's more about business than sales. We also provide the service we sell.
Keeping track of everything that's going on, prioritising your tasks and managing your time appropriately can be a mind****. The workload is literally infinite.

we sell medical equipment to doctors, hospitals, clinics etc
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Okay. Does he manage his own business or does he just fire off dozens of calls a day to numbers off a list?

lol my best friend does exactly what you do ..not dumb but he's not overly bright either ...knows how to talk to people but some of the things he says is cringe worthy
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How good is he?

could I possibly be anything but a creative person?
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Touche.
 
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HI IM GEORGE ZIMMER CEO OF THE MENS WAREHOUSE. WHILST VAGRANTLY VIEWING THIS VICARIOUS VIEW OF A THREAD I NOTICED THERE WAS GALLANT TALK OF BUSINESS. ALL THIS TALK OF SALES AND REVENUE MADE MY ROD OF ZIMMER PULSATE AND BULGE RIGHT THROUGH MY TARNISHED TROUSERS. AS I BEGAN STROKING I THOUGHT BACK TO MERRIER TIMES WHERE I WOULD SELL BABIES ON THE STREETS OF TAIWAN TO COPE WITH MY EXTREME GAMBLING PROBLEMS THAT HAD TAKEN A THRESHOLD UPON THE ALMIGHTY ZIMMER. ALAS ALL IS WELL NOW AND I SELL SHIRTS IN TEXAS. THE MORAL OF THIS MIRACULOUS, MEANDERING AND MALIGNANT TALE IS THAT I, GEORGE ZIMMER CEO OF THE MENS WAREHOUSE, AM THE GREATEST BUSINESSMAN WHO EVER STEPPED UPON THIS PLANET.

I GUARANTEE IT .
 
Pulse said:
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HI IM GEORGE ZIMMER CEO OF THE MENS WAREHOUSE. WHILST VAGRANTLY VIEWING THIS VICARIOUS VIEW OF A THREAD I NOTICED THERE WAS GALLANT TALK OF BUSINESS. ALL THIS TALK OF SALES AND REVENUE MADE MY ROD OF ZIMMER PULSATE AND BULGE RIGHT THROUGH MY TARNISHED TROUSERS. AS I BEGAN STROKING I THOUGHT BACK TO MERRIER TIMES WHERE I WOULD SELL BABIES ON THE STREETS OF TAIWAN TO COPE WITH MY EXTREME GAMBLING PROBLEMS THAT HAD TAKEN A THRESHOLD UPON THE ALMIGHTY ZIMMER. ALAS ALL IS WELL NOW AND I SELL SHIRTS IN TEXAS. THE MORAL OF THIS MIRACULOUS, MEANDERING AND MALIGNANT TALE IS THAT I, GEORGE ZIMMER CEO OF THE MENS WAREHOUSE, AM THE GREATEST BUSINESSMAN WHO EVER STEPPED UPON THIS PLANET.

I GUARANTEE IT .
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That's funny, but I'm not sure why.

Also, he looks like David Blunkett. Fortunately, David Blunkett doesn't know this...
 
repiV said:
Surely not. Plenty of people here would have you believe I'm a dangerous immoral extremist without an ethical fibre in my body.
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You arnt?


The worst thing I have ever done is downloaded tens of thousands of dollars worth of software / music on my pc. All of which is used for recreational purposes / education... and the software which i plan to use to make money with, will be purchased before doing so.

Oh yea, and I stole a 2 pack of sweet tarts at an elementary school fair.
 
Krynn72 said:
You arnt?


The worst thing I have ever done is downloaded tens of thousands of dollars worth of software / music on my pc. All of which is used for recreational purposes / education... and the software which i plan to use to make money with, will be purchased before doing so.

Oh yea, and I stole a 2 pack of sweet tarts at an elementary school fair.
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Ooh...you stole tarts. Extremist bastard! ;)
 
repiV said:
Sorry, but sales is not that black and white. It doesn't take someone of intelligence to bash out 100 calls a day from a lead list and get results.
It does, however, take intelligence to balance finding your own leads, turning these leads into customers (which can take years for big accounts) and then actually providing them with suitable candidates, retaining them as customers and building a network of quality candidates and constantly hunting for new business. There is a lot more to the process than you would think. To me, it's more about business than sales. We also provide the service we sell.
Keeping track of everything that's going on, prioritising your tasks and managing your time appropriately can be a mind****. The workload is literally infinite.
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we sell medical equipment ..cold calling doesnt factor into his day to day job ever



repiV said:
Okay. Does he manage his own business or does he just fire off dozens of calls a day to numbers off a list?
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no, you dont cold call people from a list asking if they want a gynecology examination chair (which is $14,000 btw ..our manufacturer is in the UK)



repiV said:
How good is he?
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well lets see, he's been on tv numberous times for having helped develop a program in conjuction with the canadian government, he runs the department and started out at an entry level 3 years ago (management)
 
Except for my piracy I haven't broken the law in any kind. :p

However I remember a few years ago when I and a friend of mine went to a game store, during a long free period in school, and checked a few games. After a few minutes while I walked past the shelves my friend became anxious and wanted to leave the store.
We went outside and then he showed me a game that he had stolen from the store without paying for it. I laughed. :LOL:
 
I had 6 points on my driving licence. Rock and/or roll.
 
Sat in the back seat of a car while my friend shouted "******!" and ran over some random person in the middle of a country road. I kicked his ass shortly afterward. Guilty of being an accomplice.

Ran into someone's mailbox/had a nearmiss with a group of people while learning to drive.

Other shit I can't remember.....
 
TollBooth Willie said:
Sat in the back seat of a car while my friend shouted "******!" and ran over some random person in the middle of a country road. I kicked his ass shortly afterward. Guilty of being an accomplice.

Ran into someone's mailbox/had a nearmiss with a group of people while learning to drive.

Other shit I can't remember.....
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I remember that time when you were raping a banana in public.
 
Krynn72 said:
The worst thing I have ever done is downloaded tens of thousands of dollars worth of software / music on my pc.
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More like hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of software/music/movies etc. in my case.
 
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remus your sig hurt me. I started to cough but then I laughed and it created an agonizing air influx ejection suspension that wreaked fiery shards of mucus on my throat
 
repiV said:
How can you possibly think it's acceptable to steal someone's bike, very possibly a treasured possession of theirs, because you failed
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fixed. btw stern i didn't have the willpower to actually read all the multi quote flames but from my general perusal i came to the conclusion that you're trying to form a correlation between someones job and their intelligence.which just doesn't make any sense. your job does not dictate your ability to think although there are a few societal norms they do not apply for every case(or did i just miss the point of the whole dense sales man thing).
 
Let's see....
I once spit off of a ride and a police officer came and told me to stop.

Other than that...nothing. Nothing I've ever been caught for anyway.
 
jondy said:
And you managed all of this with aspergers?
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Mild aspergus syndrome doesn't mean your ass retarted or make it somehow impossible to break the law. You seriously don't know what your talking about. I also just want to point out that mild aspergus syndrome (very mild indeed) doesn't mean I'm some kid with no friends and hangs out in the library all day and is shit scared of talking to a woman. I am the complete opposite, I did used to feel shit nervous and awkard in social situations, I got out of it somehow. I am no longer that kind of guy. I think I have risen above people's stereotypes of aspergus syndrome. I really got ****ing sick of haveing no friends. I sometimes question if I even have it or if Mum just made it all up, like how she made up that Dad is a drug addict and an alcoholic and seems to think she lives in hell all the time. When I made this thread I thought I had done just as much as the next man but people actually went as far as to think I was jokeing. Made me feel real guilty, but meh forgot about it the next day.
 
Steven said:
Mild aspergus syndrome doesn't mean your ass retarted or make it somehow impossible to break the law. You seriously don't know what your talking about. I also just want to point out that mild aspergus syndrome (very mild indeed) doesn't mean I'm some kid with no friends and hangs out in the library all day and is shit scared of talking to a woman. I am the complete opposite, I did used to feel shit nervous and awkard in social situations, I got out of it somehow. I am no longer that kind of guy. I think I have risen above people's stereotypes of aspergus syndrome. I really got ****ing sick of haveing no friends. I sometimes question if I even have it or if Mum just made it all up, like how she made up that Dad is a drug addict and an alcoholic and seems to think she lives in hell all the time. When I made this thread I thought I had done just as much as the next man but people actually went as far as to think I was jokeing. Made me feel real guilty, but meh forgot about it the next day.
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I know about the sliding scale of aspergers/autism because I've known, and were friends with, kids with it, and apart from the first hand experience, I've done some reading.

With issues about my understanding out the way, we can go back to my post, which was just pointing out that as a 15 year old kid with aspergers, you've really excelled yourself in accomplishing all that shit without someone coming down on your ass.
 
jondy said:
I know about the sliding scale of aspergers/autism because I've known, and were friends with, kids with it, and apart from the first hand experience, I've done some reading.

With issues about my understanding out the way, we can go back to my post, which was just pointing out that as a 15 year old kid with aspergers, you've really excelled yourself in accomplishing all that shit without someone coming down on your ass.
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Oh I see. Luck and acting skills I guess. I am very good at acting innocent around authority, I don't mean to brag but I've always been the top in drama class. Not that I'm proud of doing most of that.
 
repiV said:
How can you possibly think it's acceptable to steal someone's bike, very possibly a treasured possession of theirs, because you failed to get the last bus?
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Hey, it's nothing I'm proud of. I'm not trying to defend what I did, I'm just saying what happened. Had I been sober I wouldn't have done it.
 
repiV said:
I'm not the best salesman in the world.
I do get sick of people like you whining on about how unfair life is and how we should redistribute the wealth because some people are just stuck at the bottom.
It's bullshit. I don't care whether it makes me seem like a better person or not, it isn't the point. The strong likelihood (based on statistical probability and what I know about people here) is that I've been given a harder hand in life than anyone else on this board, but I'm still here and doing well. My hunch is that you personally were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, and that you don't actually know shit about being poor or true hardship.
Take your politics of envy and shove it where the sun don't shine. Some of us have lives to lead.
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Actually I grew up Peckham/London in a tiny flat then moved to burnley, and my secondary school had an average of 21% of 5A-C's for students and I got good exam results the best in the year actually. Although thankfully my family are now quite well off, parents are teachers but I know what it's like to be poorish.
 
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