Tollbooth Willie
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Do you know what we do to liars? I sure as Hell don't.
Do you know what we do to liars? I sure as Hell don't.
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we sell medical equipment ..cold calling doesnt factor into his day to day job ever
no, you dont cold call people from a list asking if they want a gynecology examination chair (which is $14,000 btw ..our manufacturer is in the UK)
well lets see, he's been on tv numberous times for having helped develop a program in conjuction with the canadian government, he runs the department and started out at an entry level 3 years ago (management)
Hey, it's nothing I'm proud of. I'm not trying to defend what I did, I'm just saying what happened. Had I been sober I wouldn't have done it.
Actually I grew up Peckham/London in a tiny flat then moved to burnley, and my secondary school had an average of 21% of 5A-C's for students and I got good exam results the best in the year actually. Although thankfully my family are now quite well off, parents are teachers but I know what it's like to be poorish.
It sounds like a pretty easy sales role, tbh.
So is he a third party/freelance recruiter or does he work for one company?
I dont know the specifics but i dont think so ..we have a ton of competitors all vying for a share of the same market which is pretty static ..not many impulse buys in the medical equipment business
works for a company
I don't doubt the competition is there, but given that no cold calling is involved and there is thus very little of a "new business" aspect to the job it sounds like one of those roles which requires a lot of patience and organisational skills, but less of the hunter instinct and drive. More of an account management role.
Not to say the role is inferior, I'm just illustrating that sales has a much wider scope than most people think.
Then what he does is completely different from what I do...he finds the right people for his own company, I find and place people in other companies for a fee.
ok perhaps I gave the wrong impression ..there is cold calling involved in the sense that they have to consistently drum new business ..but to the same pool of clients ...hospitals for example may decide to use a specific instrument because of x reason ..so even though we've been selling them product a for years and we carry product b we still have to bid on B product along with every other supplier ...currently we're working out shipping medical supplies to afghanistan ..these contracts are extremely hard to come by
nope it's the same thing, he recruits for outside companies ..he works for an outreach program that helps young adults/troubled youth find meaningful careers (not flipping burgers)
Well, sounds like account management to me (servicing existing clients and squeezing more money out of them) - albeit with a much more protracted sales cycle than usual.
By "works for one company", I meant in-house recruitment. Should have made myself clearer.
It doesn't sound like the companies are charged for this service; indeed it sounds like a humanitarian environment rather than a business one.
sales/marketing goobly-gook ...over inflated charlatans if you ask me :E
not sure would have to ask him