Law breakage.

I lit my town forest on fire, it was an accident! The fire was so big that it might of been about 3 football fields
 
we sell medical equipment ..cold calling doesnt factor into his day to day job ever

no, you dont cold call people from a list asking if they want a gynecology examination chair (which is $14,000 btw ..our manufacturer is in the UK)

It sounds like a pretty easy sales role, tbh.

well lets see, he's been on tv numberous times for having helped develop a program in conjuction with the canadian government, he runs the department and started out at an entry level 3 years ago (management)

So is he a third party/freelance recruiter or does he work for one company?

Hey, it's nothing I'm proud of. I'm not trying to defend what I did, I'm just saying what happened. Had I been sober I wouldn't have done it.

Okay. Cool.

Actually I grew up Peckham/London in a tiny flat then moved to burnley, and my secondary school had an average of 21% of 5A-C's for students and I got good exam results the best in the year actually. Although thankfully my family are now quite well off, parents are teachers but I know what it's like to be poorish.

Interesting. You act like a sheltered public schoolboy quite a lot. Just so you know.
 
It sounds like a pretty easy sales role, tbh.

I dont know the specifics but i dont think so ..we have a ton of competitors all vying for a share of the same market which is pretty static ..not many impulse buys in the medical equipment business


So is he a third party/freelance recruiter or does he work for one company?

works for a company
 
I dont know the specifics but i dont think so ..we have a ton of competitors all vying for a share of the same market which is pretty static ..not many impulse buys in the medical equipment business

I don't doubt the competition is there, but given that no cold calling is involved and there is thus very little of a "new business" aspect to the job it sounds like one of those roles which requires a lot of patience and organisational skills, but less of the hunter instinct and drive. More of an account management role.
Not to say the role is inferior, I'm just illustrating that sales has a much wider scope than most people think.

works for a company

Then what he does is completely different from what I do...he finds the right people for his own company, I find and place people in other companies for a fee.
 
I don't doubt the competition is there, but given that no cold calling is involved and there is thus very little of a "new business" aspect to the job it sounds like one of those roles which requires a lot of patience and organisational skills, but less of the hunter instinct and drive. More of an account management role.
Not to say the role is inferior, I'm just illustrating that sales has a much wider scope than most people think.

ok perhaps I gave the wrong impression ..there is cold calling involved in the sense that they have to consistently drum new business ..but to the same pool of clients ...hospitals for example may decide to use a specific instrument because of x reason ..so even though we've been selling them product a for years and we carry product b we still have to bid on B product along with every other supplier ...currently we're working out shipping medical supplies to afghanistan ..these contracts are extremely hard to come by



Then what he does is completely different from what I do...he finds the right people for his own company, I find and place people in other companies for a fee.

nope it's the same thing, he recruits for outside companies ..he works for an outreach program that helps young adults/troubled youth find meaningful careers (not flipping burgers)
 
ok perhaps I gave the wrong impression ..there is cold calling involved in the sense that they have to consistently drum new business ..but to the same pool of clients ...hospitals for example may decide to use a specific instrument because of x reason ..so even though we've been selling them product a for years and we carry product b we still have to bid on B product along with every other supplier ...currently we're working out shipping medical supplies to afghanistan ..these contracts are extremely hard to come by

Well, sounds like account management to me (servicing existing clients and squeezing more money out of them) :) - albeit with a much more protracted sales cycle than usual.

nope it's the same thing, he recruits for outside companies ..he works for an outreach program that helps young adults/troubled youth find meaningful careers (not flipping burgers)

By "works for one company", I meant in-house recruitment. Should have made myself clearer.
It doesn't sound like the companies are charged for this service; indeed it sounds like a humanitarian environment rather than a business one.
 
Well, sounds like account management to me (servicing existing clients and squeezing more money out of them) :) - albeit with a much more protracted sales cycle than usual.

sales/marketing goobly-gook ...over inflated charlatans if you ask me :E



By "works for one company", I meant in-house recruitment. Should have made myself clearer.
It doesn't sound like the companies are charged for this service; indeed it sounds like a humanitarian environment rather than a business one.

not sure would have to ask him
 
sales/marketing goobly-gook ...over inflated charlatans if you ask me :E

There's a very clear and important difference between the two. :E
Account management is the bigger responsibility, since you're looking after the biggest customers and getting it wrong can lose piles of money. But mentally and emotionally I would say it's a much easier role.
In recruitment all the roles tend to be rolled into one...your business is entirely yours. I spent almost all of yesterday cold calling for new business, and today I spent most of my time servicing my existing clients. You have to wear a lot of different hats, particularly as you're talking to busy and demanding CEOs who consider your call a gross inconvinience one moment and needy candidates who just love to waste your time the next.

not sure would have to ask him

It makes aaaaalllll the difference in the world....as the G-Man would say.
 
once me n my friend were kicking a soccer ball against a wall at some school, i accidentally kicked it the wrong way and it shattered a cars winshield..i took the ball and ran and didn't go back to that school for at least a month.
 
big list #1

underage drinking
running from riot cops (for about 20 seconds :( )
Endless piracy of music / programs / movies etc. (only joking i dont do that)
carrying a knife (only found out it was illegal the other week but it's better than dying)
Accidentally smashed a police car window with a stone when i was about 12
Buying cigarrettes for people < 16 (illegal i guess)

Can't think of anything major, missed some stuff like physical assault that everyones done technically according to laws.

:[ i'm a good boi
 
Lets see...

Vandalism
Trespassing on private property
Assault
Pirating
Petty theft
Underage drinking
Being way to ****ing awesome
 
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