My First "Astral Projection" Expirience

[JunkieXL]

Three days ago something really weird happened to me..
I tried to have a lucid dream.. (If you don't know what it is, read this: Link)

Ok I close my eyes and try to fall asleep..

suddenly after a couple of minutes I start feeling my heart going faster and faster until it reached a crazy beating speed.. I was like "what the.." but I didn't open my eyes and continued to try and fall asleep.. I thought it would pass.. about a minute later, I start feeling these vibrations all over my body.. this is the point where I freaked out..

I still didn't open my eyes, I wanted to see what happens next.. about another minute later I start hearing all sorts of noises, one sounded like a spaceship "charging" or something.. I dunno how to explain it..
Then I started to see all this crazy trippy images like im inside of a dream.. Then I opened my eyes and snapped out of it.

Ok by this point you must think I'm crazy or I'm on something if you don't know what "Astral Projection" is..
So heres a short explanation about it: http://www.crystalinks.com/astral.html

It was an amazing expirience, a bit scary but worth it.. I'm gonna try and do it again and try to "leave my physical body" soon.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Sounds to me like you were in half-sleep. Your body was technically mostly-awake, but parts of your brain were going to sleep, and making a dream cycle, or something.

The only way to really know if you're astrally projecting is to get someone to write a random number on a piece of paper (preferably immediate family), not tell you what it is, make them stick it on their bedside table, and see if you can 'float' over to see the number in your projection.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Mr.Reak]

snap

Had the same thing, but when waking up. Pretty scary experience, everything in my room started to shake (not really, but for me it did. Actually it wasn't shaking, but like moving very fast, I think Fight Club had that effect in a movie, where somebody's face started to shake), my body was twitching and I heard bunch of different voices in my head, saying something. I was scared to shit, but oh well.

 

[lePobz]

Guess this is the kinda thing we have left to discover as a species - probably the final answer on the soul and what happens after death.

Kinda weird stuff, I wouldn't mind experiencing something like that myself, im curious. Knowin me though i'd forget where my body was.

 

[Devilphish]

Congrats. I remember my first experience was quite frightening, and I had known what to expect since I had been trying for a number of months. I don't know how much you have learned about this topic, so I will assume you are completely new and explain a few things. If you already know all this then ignore me.

suddenly after a couple of minutes I start feeling my heart going faster and faster until it reached a crazy beating speed.. I was like "what the.."

The general consesus among the "experts" is that it isn't actually your physical heart that creates this sensation, but rather an energy center located near your heart. I don't want to go too deep into metaphysics on this board, but if you check out astralpulse.com and read some of the N.E.W. energy articles you will get a better idea of what I'm talking about.

about a minute later, I start feeling these vibrations all over my body.. this is the point where I freaked out..

The vibrations are a common projection symptom. This is the state most projectors strive to reach because speration of consciousness and the physical body becomes possible at this point. This is also said to be an energetic sensation rather than a physical one.

I still didn't open my eyes, I wanted to see what happens next.. about another minute later I start hearing all sorts of noises, one sounded like a spaceship "charging" or something..

This is another common projection symptom. Many people are startled by this and are pulled out of the experience. Some of the common noises heard are swooshes(seems like you heard a type of swoosh), loud pops and cracks, and sometimes voices. Some of these sounds are hypnogogic and created by your own mind, some of them are astral sounds that you pick up due to your slight phasing into that realm during this hypnogogic state. The best thing to do is acknowledge them but don't focus on them, just let them pass by. Your goal is the vibrational state.

Then I started to see all this crazy trippy images like im inside of a dream..

Possibly hypnogogic imagry, possible flashes of the astral. Hypnogogic imagry occurs in the same hypnogogic state that the sounds do. These are created by your sub-sonscious mind. Some people report seeing imagry from the astral proper in this state aswell, so it's tough to discern.



You didn't actually project, but you came so close that all you needed to do was will yourself out and it would have been done. Try to get confortable with the experience and adopt a passive attitude to the sounds and imagry you experience. The number one cause for people failing to project while having these experiences is that they are frightened by the sounds and imagry. And don't be frightened by what you see when you first get out, although a warning is useless because almost everyone sees something that scares them back to their body. fear is a huge obstacle but it will be overcome with practice. Good luck.

 

[Frank]

When I was France a year ago, I had one hell of a ****ed up experience as well!
All week the weather had sucked bigtime: Rain, thunderstorms etc.
Then the very last day of our trip the weather was smooth! So I went outside with my discman, headphones, Aphex Twin CDs, and a magazine! So I sat there for about an hour, and the sun had been baking my skull. Since I haven't got my Danish - English dictionary at home I have no idea what it's called in english, but I got some kind of a fever because the sun had been melting my brain, but I hadn't noticed anything yet...
Later at night we went to a restaurant where they made kickass food, but suddenly I couldn't eat anything AT ALL! I felt like throwing up but nothing happend, so I went home, and that's when I started freezing! Seriously, I was shaking ALL OVER my body, and it was so bad, that I didn't even want to feel my own legs. They were like ICE! Then all of a sudden I thought I was in a gameshow! I saw people everywhere, and they were all trying to guess the right answer to some stupid question. But it was not a traditional quizshow, because there were thousands and thousands of competitors and there were rows of people everywhere! Now that was ****ed up!

 

[lePobz]

Hehe, someone called Devilphish trying to convince your soul to leave your body...

Be afraid, be very afraid.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

yeah, i've been trying to have lucid dreams also.. actually succeeded once, briefly. i've had similar experiences several times, usually when i'm very tired and start to go ino REM sleep very quickly. for me the aural/tactile sensations always preceed the visual, and they're always more intense for some reason.

 

[CrazyHarij]

Lucid dreams are fun, fun, fun!

I've tried astral projecting a little, but never suceeded.

 

[SubKamran]

Um. I am speechless...

*backs away slowly from crazy people*

Interesting though.

 

[breadbomb]

I remember I read up on lucid dreaming a long time ago and then I tried to have one, tried multiple times actually. It's basically impossible, because you have to notice that you're in a dream and go with it. But right when I notice, I just wake up.

 

[SubKamran]

I've tried to stay with a dream if it was hot, er, I mean cool. But I just wake up.

 

[Adrien C]

When I used to played Half Life before, I used to play it to much in a day, at night I was like Half awake , all this weird Half Life images came into my head, sometimes I just woke up standing or scratching my leg, it's all Valve's fault...

 

[disruptioN_]

I think I've done this a few times actually.
It's scary as hell.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

...and people call me crazy. Interesting stuff though.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Heheh, now we will just call you slightly less crazie...



Really intesting read though. Thanks. I had no idea about this stuff....


I never ever EVER remember my dreams. It kinda sucks actually because I used to remember a few and they were really weird exciting (Not the way you think :upstare: )

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

:naughty: Ahem...

Astral projection is the kind of thing they sometimes talk about on Discovery SciTrek(i think its called that). Anyway, the Discovery channel being who they are, they basically set up half the programme to talk about it, a quater of the programme to say its real and then the last quater to say, actually no its all just a chemical called phoxy-moxy-dopamine that makes you think strange thoughts and feel strange things.

 

[Starfish]

"I tried to have a lucid dream".. and ... "suddenly after a couple of minutes I start feeling my heart going faster and faster until it reached a crazy beating speed.. I was like "what the.."" - shouldn't be used in any conversation.

 

[Devilphish]

I used to think it was crazy too until I gave it a shot. I never really believed in anything because I couldn't just make myself have faith in something that I have no assurance is real. I turned to the Astral projection scene because it's a part of spirituality that you can have actual encounters with and verfiy rather than just either accept it on faith or not. Anyone can do it, it just takes dedication. It takes some people a matter of years before they can induce a OOBE at will. For most people, including me, it takes around 2 to 3 months before you start having your first experiences as was described by the poster. Some people are even natural projectors.

The point being, I don't blame you guys for thinking it's really far out and crazy. I used to think so too. But it's there for you to do if only you put forth the effort. You can either brush it off as weird and forget it, or give it a shot and see what happens. You have nothing to lose and A LOT to gain, trust me.

 

[SubKamran]

Hmmm, what could I "learn" from this so-called Astral Projection?

 

[Starfish]

Hmmm, what could I "learn" from this so-called Astral Projection?

You could learn that it would be slightly easier to find your car keys in the mad dash that is the morning, whilst soundly asleep at night. Just think of all the time you could saveeeeeeeeee.....

 

[SubKamran]

You could learn that it would be slightly easier to find your car keys in the mad dash that is the morning, whilst soundly asleep at night. Just think of all the time you could saveeeeeeeeee.....

If only I had a car!

 

[Ames]

Oh yea, this happens to me all the time.

Scares the living hell out of me.

 

[Devilphish]

Hmmm, what could I "learn" from this so-called Astral Projection?

Anything, literally. And it's not only about learning, it's also about experiencing. What can you experience? Anything, literally. Want to know what Jesus looked like? Want to walk on the moon? Want to have sex with Lyndsey Lohan? Want to fly through the clouds of Jupiter Neo style(Neptune is my favourite planet to visit)? You can do anything and everyting from watch Leonardo paint his Mona Lisa to play HalfLife in true virtual reality. Ofcourse this is assuming that not only can you project, but that you have mastered the art, which takes time.

 

[nw909]

Yeah, well you can have all your fancy astral projections, but one time, I was dreaming that I was eating a marshmellow, then I woke up and I was like "WTFOMG" becuase my rabbit has somehome dissapeared.

I still don't understand it.

 

[Starfish]

Yeah, well you can have all your fancy astral projections, but one time, I was dreaming that I was eating a marshmellow, then I woke up and I was like "WTFOMG" becuase my rabbit has somehome dissapeared.

I still don't understand it.

That some strong weed you be smoking.....

 

[mortiz]

Personally I think it's all a crock. Although lucid dreams are indeed fun.

 

[Mr.Reak]

Sorry, but no, I don’t want to live in some dream world, reality suits me fine. Plus you still can image so much, things that your mind has stored. If you read a lot, lucid dreaming will be that much fun.

 

[SubKamran]

"Want to have sex with Lyndsey Lohan?"

OK, now I'm interested.

 

[mortiz]

Sorry, but no, I don’t want to live in some dream world, reality suits me fine. Plus you still can image so much, things that your mind has stored. If you read a lot, lucid dreaming will be that much fun.

Yes but dreaming and imagining things are two completely different things. Dreaming is a purer (the purest) form of thought, without the distractions of your senses and stray thoughts. Also if you know how to control your lucid dreams properly you can learn A LOT about yourself. Plus even though you've realised you're dreaming it's still a lot more, erm, 'real' that any thought can ever be.

Did you know that the Aborigines believed their ancestors dreamed the world into existence? Not that I believe that, it's just lucid dreaming maybe more important than you think.

 

[Impulse147]

kinda the same thing happens if you fall into a deep sleep while your eyes are still open you feel awake but your asleep and u just lay there shaking like crazy. but i think i may have started entering a lucid dream a few times but have snapped out of it because its too scary of an expierence, what i do is i focus on listening to whats on the tv and then fall asleep, and the boom it hits and your heart pounds and u hear things and i never really get to deep into cause it freaks me out.

 

[Devilphish]

Sorry, but no, I don’t want to live in some dream world, reality suits me fine.

You have it backwards. It's not about escaping reality and living in a dream world, it's about exploring reality to a deeper extent. The physical dimensions is but a fragmentof the greater reality, projecting consciousness into other levels of reality is about gaining access to much more infomation about yourself and reality in general than you would ever have access to in the physical. Projecting can also be used to explore the physical by means of inducing an OOBE, which is similar to being a floating spectre in the physical world, and not bound by it's limitations. See in 360 degrees, hear sounds from the other side of the planet, travel at the speed of thought. I have been so far outside of this galaxy that the milky way is just a small dot among millions. I have entered solar systems humans havn't even discovered. How many human beings alive can say they have explored Andromeda? Only projectors.

I don't mean you create these things in your mind and then explore them, I mean you explore the literal places. I meant the literal Leonardo da Vinci painting the actual Mona Lisa, not a replica created by the mind. Yes, past events are accessible at higher levels.

Ofcourse you could go right to the Astral and start creating anything you want and explore the creations, but the real value of projecting is in exploring and learning about real events and things.

 

[SubKamran]

You have it backwards. It's not about escaping reality and living in a dream world, it's about exploring reality to a deeper extent. The physical dimensions is but a fragmentof the greater reality, projecting consciousness into other levels of reality is about gaining access to much more infomation about yourself and reality in general than you would ever have access to in the physical. Projecting can also be used to explore the physical by means of inducing an OOBE, which is similar to being a floating spectre in the physical world, and not bound by it's limitations. See in 360 degrees, hear sounds from the other side of the planet, travel at the speed of thought. I have been so far outside of this galaxy that the milky way is just a small dot among millions. I have entered solar systems humans havn't even discovered. How many human beings alive can say they have explored Andromeda? Only projectors.

I don't mean you create these things in your mind and then explore them, I mean you explore the literal places. I meant the literal Leonardo da Vinci painting the actual Mona Lisa, not a replica created by the mind. Yes, past events are accessible at higher levels.

Ofcourse you could go right to the Astral and start creating anything you want and explore the creations, but the real value of projecting is in exploring and learning about real events and things.

I just can't comprehend that you can actually see past events. Anywhere. I just...can't...believe it. It probably is amazing though...innerestin'.

So why aren't these wonderful projector people solving crimes? Is it because no one believes them?

 

[CrazyHarij]

I don't know if it's real stuff you do or hypoxy-moxy-dopamine stuff, but if you really enjoy it as much as Devilphish does I don't think it matters.

I've been trying alot with a technique I learned while reading a little about Ki, basically you're supposed to relax (wonder if there's a technique that doesn't involve relaxing), feel mental hands comforting you, and at the point where you feel most comfortable you should imagine a rope hanging above you at chest level and start dragging yourself upwards with this with mental hands..

The feeling is extremely strange, it's like your body escapes via your sternum or something, but that's about as far as I've gotten.. I get very freaked out and such, but I'm thinking about giving it a try again some time. But it's also easy to do and sort of makes you think of what interesting this is.. All you need to do is just learn to relax alot and imagine stuff, and also really trying to do it and not just doubting and such..

Man, so much stuff I'd like to do if I ever manage to do something.. visit space stations, be a Jedi, visit a special place i've had in my mind for a long time..

(guess this goes to people who haven't communicated with me alot)Don't think of me as a strange meditation guy who only thinks of this.. I'm just an average joe kid, my main interests are drawing and playing games.. I'm really hyped up about HL2.. This is just a thing I've tried out and it is extremely interesting, simple as that.

 

[Devilphish]

I just can't comprehend that you can actually see past events. Anywhere. I just...can't...believe it. It probably is amazing though...innerestin'.

That is a very deep and complicated subject. Viewing past events is a far sight more complicated than simply projecting to the Astral. I have managed to do it only 3 times in the 5 years I have been projecting. I am only just now starting to master the Astral, so I have a ways to go before I can go view past events at will. As my skill in navigating outside of the physical developes I will be able to do it more frequently. For now I am content with getting lucky from time to time.

To answer your other question, what makes you think that the word of a projector will hold up in court? Things like this are possible, but futile in todays society. I do know one lady who has one the lottery through projection. 6 million big ones :imu:

 

[JunkieXL]

Wow.. I didn't know you could see past events and all those kind of stuff.. thanks for the info..

Anyway Devilphish, do you have some intresting reading material about projecting? I'd like to read more about it..
Also some more techniques to do it would be nice

 

[SubKamran]

Can you...say...see people you don't know? And when you wake up, accurately describe them? Because I have a cool idea but it might take a while

 

[Non-Sequitur]

See in 360 degrees, hear sounds from the other side of the planet, travel at the speed of thought. I have been so far outside of this galaxy that the milky way is just a small dot among millions. I have entered solar systems humans havn't even discovered. How many human beings alive can say they have explored Andromeda? Only projectors.

Seriously dude, you're delusional. Sorry. There is no need for any living creature to evolve this ability. It doesn't contribute to the survival of the species at all. The brain is an amazing thing, and even though what you think you may be seeing is real, it's not. We're animals, buddy, nothing more. No soul, no spirit, no out of body bullshite. You are your brain. While I'm sure there are things out there that we can't percieve (not supernatural, mind you, just things that we don't need to see, according to the evolution of our bodies), humans are unfortunately grounded in the physical universe.

Oh, can you please tell me what shape the universe is, considering that you've explored it so thoroughly? Care to let the scientists know the answer to that one? How about visiting solar systems that we CAN see through telescopes and telling us what kind of planets are there? Why aren't you working in astronomy? How about using these talents for a good cause? How about tracking down Osama Bin Laden or something?

 

[Korgoth]

Well it sounds kind of like remote viewing, and people say the military does use remote viewers to solve crimes and locate people. I just don't know how much truth there is to it... It is declassified you can read about how they used to have a big experimental remote viewing group, but I don't think its active anymore.

On the issue of astral projection, i think its happened to me once. I was lying on my couch watching tv and I just turned the tv off because it was annoying and nothing was on... It was real quiet outside all except for I could hear an airplane flying way up over my house, and I was concentrating and thinking to myself how I wish i could fly and see from the planes point of view. All of a sudden I'm out side looking up at this airplane flying above me, still very far away. Then I look down and I notice that i'm about 20 or 30 feet above my house looking at my roof. I remember thinking "what the.." and all of a sudden I felt a huge jolt, my vision went completely white for a few seconds and slowly faded back in, and I could hear electricity inside my ears. My heart was rushing and I could barely move at first. It scared the hell out of me at first until I did some research and discovered what it was. I have not been able to recreate this experience although i'd like to.
My dad says he used to do a lot of reading on this subject when he was around my age. He is a big paranormal buff. He said he used to be able to do this when he wanted, he said the key is meditation and state of mind. He said one night he projected himself to a girls house that he was dating at the time, and saw her lying in bed reading and the next day or so when he saw her again she asked him if he sneaked into her room, she said she saw him. Its really odd.

 

[Devilphish]

Anyway Devilphish, do you have some intresting reading material about projecting? I'd like to read more about it..
Also some more techniques to do it would be nice

Robert Bruce's book is excellent. It goes into detail about how to view past events. It isn't done in the Astral proper, the Astral is a very subjective reality. If you plop yourself down in the Astral and ask to see something like, say, the first moon landing, your mind will use the Astral to create a subjective scene based on your own expectations. Seeing past events as they actually were is done in another realm, Astral Dynamics will explain it in detail. I didn't mean to get deep into metaphysics on this board. You can see how people are reacting when I just scratch the surface.

Robery Monroe's books are highly praised in the community, though I havn't read them myself. This is the guy that heads up the Monroe Institute(TMI) who produced the Hemisync technology. This guy has done more for the projecting community than anyone else I can think of. I hear it's best to read them in order, and from what I gather they are documentation on Monroe's progress as he delves deeper into the art.

Journeys Out of the Body
Far Journeys
Ultimate Journey


William Buhlman, another acclaimed author in the community. I have only read bits and pieces of his stuff. He is more fluffy than the others, might want to pick his stuff up last.

Adventures Beyond the Body: How to Experience Out-of-Body Travel
The Secret of the Soul: Using Out-Of-Body Experiences to Understand Our True Nature

Other possible good reading: Cosmic Journeys: My Out-Of-Body Explorations With Robert A. Monroe

You can view Robert Paterson's book online here: Out of Body Experiences: How to Have Them and What to Expect


That should get you started.

Can you...say...see people you don't know? And when you wake up, accurately describe them?

Yes ofcourse. When you learn to keep a clear head while in an OOBE in the "real world", you will see everything exactly as it is in real time. The mind can mess with the process, so keeping stray thought in check is a skill you will have to learn. It's not difficult though, since you already learn this skill through the process of projecting. A clear mind is a must.

Seriously dude, you're delusional. Sorry. There is no need for any living creature to evolve this ability. It doesn't contribute to the survival of the species at all. The brain is an amazing thing, and even though what you think you may be seeing is real, it's not. We're animals, buddy, nothing more. No soul, no spirit, no out of body bullshite. You are your brain. While I'm sure there are things out there that we can't percieve (not supernatural, mind you, just things that we don't need to see, according to the evolution of our bodies), humans are unfortunately grounded in the physical universe.

It has nothing to do with evolution. Spirituality didn't evolve, it has always existed. The very fact that I can exist outside of my physical body is proof that we are more than our physical counterpart, and infact our veru essence is non-physical. The brain has very little to do with projecting. A physical ordgan doesn't have the ability to project itself non-physically no more than a rock does. The brain isn't you, it's just an interface to the body. If you don't believe in spiritual reality, then I can't do anything for you. I can tell you put it to the test by trying it, if you did you would have experiences in a matter of months. Experiences you can verify as real and not hallucinations. But you wont put it to the test, so there is no point in debating this. I can't convince you through words, and I wouldn't ask anyone here to take my word for it. Rather I would encourage them to put it to the test for themselves.

Oh, can you please tell me what shape the universe is

If it is possible to look upon the universe as a whole, I have not done so. I would not imagine it is possible to see the universe in it's entirety from one vantage point by projecting, and if it is possible I have not accomplished it. I have not nor have I ever said that I have expored it thoroughly, but I have explored it. I have seen extra-solar planets, but that doesn't mean I have explored all planets in the Milky Way thoroughly. I have flow through Andromeda, even through it's core. That doesn't mean I have explored all galaxies thoroughly, or even Andromeda thoroughly. I have just flow through it. It's similar to you taking a tiny skiff acorss the Mississippi river, then me asking you to describe the deepest cavern of the ocean since you have explored the waters of Earth so thoroughly.

How about visiting solar systems that we CAN see through telescopes and telling us what kind of planets are there?

I have, who would you like me to tell exactly? Who do you suppose in Nasa is willing to accept that inducing OOBEs is a reliable way to explore other planets in detail? When I get better, and trust me I have a long way to go, I might publish my journeys. Right now thats about all a projector can do.

Why aren't you working in astronomy?

I'm not interested in astronomy. I can go to the center of the Earth also, but that doesn't mean I want to be a geologist. Any human being would enjoy flying through space and seeing the things I and others have seen, but I am not interested in a profession in astronomy. My interests are elsewhere. Space is an interest of mine, a career in astronomy isn't.

How about tracking down Osama Bin Laden or something?

Suppose I sprinkled some fairy dust on you that gave you the ability to fly. Now, go track Bin Laden.

Finding my friends house across town is hard enough when flying around with no navigational instruments at night, yet you expect me to fly to the mid east and find one man out of millions for whom I wouldn't even know which country to start looking in? Instant travel is possible at a higher level, where I would be able to simply will myself to his location, but I cannot do that yet. I am not yet that skilled. And if I was, what would I be able to do once I got there? See that he is in a cave in the desert, or maybe a small villagle. How will that get me any closer to pinpointing exactly where he is? You expect me to come back to the military and say "okay, I found him. he is in a cave in some desert which I think is in Pakistan somwhere".