Necrophelia help

[SimonomiS]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia

Legality (In the US) is at the bottom.

 

[NotATool]

why do you want to be cremated? if you dont care what happens to you (dont care about sex after death) why not just dump your body into a ditch by the side of the road ...why have a funeral at all?

No.

Whether he wants to be cremated or not now, once he's dead, he'll never know whether he was or not, hence he can't care.

You have a funeral because others want to respect your memory, but really the dead person couldn't care less.

 

[SimonomiS]

hahaha, I'm the only one who said it wasn't immoral

here's how I see it: as long as you're not digging up graves to do it, and nobody else knows, go ahead. The previous owner of that body is clearly not going to mind. I mean, I think it's pretty gross, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

So where do you draw the line, if ever?

Is it all okay so long as nobody knows?

Then I could cut up dead people and pin them to the walls, put them on strings and hold puppet shows, fry them up and eat them, so long as it floats my boat?

 

[Ikerous]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia

Legality (In the US) is at the bottom.

I'd get up to 8 years in prison for sexing up a dead person
Now thats immoral...

No.

Whether he wants to be cremated or not now, once he's dead, he'll never know whether he was or not, hence he can't care.

You have a funeral because others want to respect your memory, but really the dead person couldn't care less.

Completely agree

 

[NotATool]

Then I could cut up dead people and pin them to the walls, put them on strings and hold puppet shows, fry them up and eat them, so long as it floats my boat?

Well the dead person wouldn't care, but there are some serious sanitary issues with doing that.

 

[Pesmerga]

What's with you and sanity.

Personally, it's overrated.

 

[SimonomiS]

Well the dead person wouldn't care, but there are some serious sanitary issues with doing that.

Yeah but we're not discussing that, we're talking about its morality, you have no moral objections to me doing that though?

 

[Ikerous]

Yeah but we're not discussing that, we're talking about if its morality, you have no moral objections to me doing that though?

But if you agree the person wouldnt care, then wouldn't it be moral?

 

[NotATool]

Yeah but we're not discussing that, we're talking about its morality, you have no moral objections to me doing that though?

So what if I do? You aren't having sex with me. It's the up to the dead person. Who's dead.

 

[CptStern]

No.

Whether he wants to be cremated or not now, once he's dead, he'll never know whether he was or not, hence he can't care.

You have a funeral because others want to respect your memory, but really the dead person couldn't care less.

in unexpected deaths yes, but not for terminal patients ..no one expects to die, so planning for a funeral isnt all that common while still alive

why wouldnt you want the same degree of respect for your body alive as you would dead?

if you're in a coma and are never to regain consciousness would you have no qualms of someone having sex with your body (and lets be honest here, the chances of it being a woman is very slim)

 

[Pesmerga]

I hate being honest.

 

[Dog--]

I think people should do what they want, be they immoral, or moral, legal, or illegal, nice, or gross.

 

[NotATool]

in unexpected deaths yes, but not for terminal patients ..no one expects to die, so planning for a funeral isnt all that common while still alive

why wouldnt you want the same degree of respect for your body alive as you would dead?

if you're in a coma and are never to regain consciousness would you have no qualms of someone having sex with your body (and lets be honest here, the chances of it being a woman is very slim)

(note: I'm playing devil's advocate in this thread)

Because you'd be dead :dork:. I don't understand your point. It doesn't matter what you think while you are alive, you're dead, you don't remember. As a matter of fact, you don't think, you don't want or wish or care. If anybody wants respect for your body, it's the people who are alive and who do care. If there are none of those then I don't see the problem.

 

[SimonomiS]

Wait, are we talking about the actual corpse thinking it's immoral (which is just plain stupid, of course not) or society/individual people?

 

[NotATool]

Wait, are we talking about the actual corpse thinking it's immoral (which is just plain stupid, of course not) or society/individual people?

I was pretty sure we were talking about what you, as an individual, think.

 

[Dog--]

Wait, wait, if the corpses don't care, would you make 2 corpses have sex and think it's not immoral?

 

[Pesmerga]

Dog--, I think you need to put your pants back on.

 

[SimonomiS]

I was pretty sure we were talking about what you, as an individual, think.

So what if I do? You aren't having sex with me. It's the up to the dead person. Who's dead.

Then it does matter if you have moral objections or not.

 

[Ikerous]

Wait, wait, if the corpses don't care, would you make 2 corpses have sex and think it's not immoral?

I honestly dont see who thatd harm...
Not to mention itd be funny as hell.

 

[Que-Ever]

Ikerous with camera: "Ok, and... go!"
Two Corpses: "..."

 

[Dog--]

Dog--, I think you need to put your pants back on.

Who said I was wearing pants in the first place? :naughty:

 

[Pesmerga]

Dog--" Oh, let me... let me just put it in there.. there, it's in now, ok, now start... ok let me help you with that, here we go, ok, back and forth now, back and forth. That's good, that's real good. Back and forth, back and fort- dammit, Ikerous, the ****ing penis fell off."

 

[JNightshade]

Originally Posted by Pes
Dog--, I think you need to put your pants back on.

ROFL, sigged.

Anyway, quite frankly, Ikerous is completely right. By making two corpses have sex, you're not only not hurting anyone, you're also ensuring yourself and your friends a night of entertainment!

 

[NotATool]

Then it does matter if you have moral objections or not.

I was arguing a different case: one in which no one cared about whether it was happenning to a specific person. IE: whether you think in general it's an immoral act, if you don't know about it, it's not harming anyone since the dead person is dead.

As I said easier, it's more of a crime to the living than to the dead.

 

[SimonomiS]

So anything that doesn't harm somebody living and nobody alive knows about is A-OK?

 

[Pesmerga]

So anything that doesn't harm somebody living and nobody alive knows about is A-OK?

Yes mother****er, it's god damn Winnie The Pooh APPROVED.

 

[Ikerous]

So anything that doesn't harm somebody living and nobody alive knows about is A-OK?

What exactly is immoral that doesnt harm anyone thats alive? (Stealing from someoen harms them.. etc)

 

[NotATool]

Basically.

 

[SimonomiS]

What exactly is immoral that doesnt harm anyone thats alive? (Stealing from someoen harms them.. etc)

How does stealing harm someone? Mentally? Financially?

 

[Ikerous]

How does stealing harm someone? Mentally? Financially?

harm - loss of or damage to a person's right, property, or physical or mental well-being

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Necrophilia is not really unlike any other burial rite. All of 'em are basically pointless, but they hold profound emotional and/or religious importance, just like any form of non-procreational sex.

The basis of it's morality/immortality or not is therefore whether it harms anyone.
If the person allows it in their will, I can't see any harm being done. Their friends or family may disagree, but they have no right to control the guy's religious or sexual practices, even after death.

Although it's gross as all hell, it's really no different from embalming (fluids needlessly inserted to make mourners feel better ). In fact, it's probably better than that, since lots of people never really consent to how their corpse ends up being disposed, and their families just put on the funeral they want to see.
If I die tomorrow, I'd definitely be given a christian-style burial, despite my being an atheist who'd rather be cryogenically frozen (since it'd be hilarious).

It's just, like many things, stigmatized for being sexual.

 

[NotATool]

Mechagodzilla.
Rulz.


Moderately.

 

[SimonomiS]

harm - loss of or damage to a person's right, property, or physical or mental well-being

Right, well I'm all over the shop and confused, so I don't know, anything that doesn't harm somebody living or that nobody alive knows about is morally sound?

 

[Ikerous]

Necrophilia is not really unlike any other burial rite. All of 'em are basically pointless, but they hold profound emotional and/or religious importance, just like any form of non-procreational sex.

The basis of it's morality/immortality or not is therefore whether it harms anyone.
If the person allows it in their will, I can't see any harm being done. Their friends or family may disagree, but they have no right to control the guy's religious or sexual practices, even after death.

Although it's gross as all hell, it's really no different from embalming (fluids needlessly inserted to make mourners feel better ). In fact, it's probably better than that, since lots of people never really consent to how their corpse ends up being disposed, and their families just put on the funeral they want to see.
If I die tomorrow, I'd definitely be given a christian-style burial, despite my being an atheist who'd rather be cryogenically frozen (since it'd be hilarious).

It's just, like many things, stigmatized for being sexual.

The embalming thing is definitely going in the paper. You rock.

 

[sinkoman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia

Legality (In the US) is at the bottom.

HAWAII FTW

I think that it is morally wrong, but I have nothing against it. I don't believe it should be a punishable offense (with either consent of the deceased or consent of the deceased's family), but I do believe that it is mentally and morally wrong.

So what i'm trying to say I guess is, you're a ****ing psycho lunatic ****ed up bitch if you do it, but whatever man, I won't stop you.

 

[Pesmerga]

I voted for option 2, btwtbhimo.

Just for the attention, tho.

 

[OCybrManO]

Is it abnormal? Yes.

Is there something inherently immoral about it? No.

Would I do it if the body was still warm? I'll be right back...

 

[Dog--]

Lol, that'd be funny: Die a virgin, buried as a man.

 

[Danimal]

I'd get up to 8 years in prison for sexing up a dead person
Now thats immoral...

8 years!? But it's a victimless crime!

 

[sinkoman]

8 years!? But it's a victimless crime!

Hmm.

Some would consider it rape, where you don't get to kill the guy.