New Doom 3 Screenshot from Doom3.com
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Friends, it has become apparent that the realm between CG movies and in-game graphics has been crossed.
Things will never be the same again.
It's like we've stepped into the future and we didn't know it.
Cool pic. I'm off to bed...
Things will never be the same again.
It's like we've stepped into the future and we didn't know it.
Cool pic. I'm off to bed...
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not new, but really cool! (well maybe its new to official site) but yes it's shows how powerful / beutiful the enemy ai and scripted sequences will be
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damn looks nice.
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DarkStar said:
I don't understand alot of the monsters in Doom III. I don't see how they are creative and so special. Alot of what I have seen is just a couple things jumbled together. In that screenshot all it is is some head combined with a spider. Not very creative if you ask me. Those flying heads, what's up with that? How many heads so similiar to that are they going to use in the movie?
What's next? Can somebody point me to a fan website that details all the known monsters in Doom III? I'm not a fan of Doom III, but that doesn't prejudice my opinion on their monster concepts.
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Raziaar said:
Well, all I was saying is that ID put at least a LITTLE thought into the monster designs instead of directly ripping them off from movies such as Starship Troopers or Aliens. Don't get me wrong, I still think HL2 looks amazing, it's just that some of the monster design probably could have used a little more originality.
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Raziaar said:
Then what IS creative?
Really anyone who thinks the D3 monsters are LESS creative than in other video games please point out what other video games have more creative monsters.
People can bitch that the models are not creative in Doom 3 because that is subjective, they know no one can tell them they are wrong. However people can ask you what models you think are more creative so that we can judge your artistic bias
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Raziaar said:I'd hope its a screenshot... those skull spider things, whatever the hell they are(that's called creative monster design?
I gotta say and so do you. You are looking for the smallest little things to knock Doom3, very, very sad pal. Your bothered about the very ends of their feet clipping, heh get a life.
If you dont like Doom3 then just let it pass by, you'll be one of the only people that play games that will let it pass by though so tra and god forbid you if Doom3 turns out to be a massive success online and you'll have no Doom3.
I know what your doing...yeah! your so hung up in HL2 you cant find room for another game and you dont like other games doing things better than HL2 does.
Raziaar said:
Doom3 has pretty good monsters, name another game with a pinky in or something similar? (except doom1/2)
Oh and knock Doom3's monsters for the rest of your life, i know your wrong _but_ everytime i see an Antlion in HL2 i'll think of these ( http://assall.de/movie-prop/scifi/sf_37.jpg) from Starship Troopers so dont talk about creativity concerning Doom3 ok?
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Bah let Raziaar be Raziaar, we however will enjoy our Doom III -drool-
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What's wrong with me not liking the game? I'm not, not liking the game because of simply thinking "I don't like this game". I look at all the information, and find that it does not appeal to my preference of gaming. Is there something wrong with that? Sure, I express my distaste often, but these are forums... they are where people express their opinions, both good and bad.
You know, this is actually the first time i've ever done something like this. There are people all over these boards obsessing over shadows, and clipping issues as well for half-life 2, and stalker, and all the other games. Why must I be singled out?
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Well, hmm. I don't know if I will. In the past I might have, but I bought into all the hype of Max Payne 2, and how people said Max Payne was such a cool game, and how Max Payne 2 would have been so cool. I bought it, and ended up being one of the only games i've ever bought that I was dissapointed in.
You know, this is actually the first time i've ever done something like this. There are people all over these boards obsessing over shadows, and clipping issues as well for half-life 2, and stalker, and all the other games. Why must I be singled out?
EDIT:
Well, hmm. I don't know if I will. In the past I might have, but I bought into all the hype of Max Payne 2, and how people said Max Payne was such a cool game, and how Max Payne 2 would have been so cool. I bought it, and ended up being one of the only games i've ever bought that I was dissapointed in.
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The reasons you give (not creative/unoriginal) for not liking Doom3 can also be applied to Half-Life 2.
Why don't you say "What's up with the antlion? That's totally unoriginal as it's ripped straight from Starship troopers. They call that creativity? Pff!"
If you don't like something just say you don't like it. Justifying it by saying it's unoriginal/uncreative is stupid.
That's why you've completely lost all credibility from the viewpoint of some people.
Why don't you say "What's up with the antlion? That's totally unoriginal as it's ripped straight from Starship troopers. They call that creativity? Pff!"
If you don't like something just say you don't like it. Justifying it by saying it's unoriginal/uncreative is stupid.
That's why you've completely lost all credibility from the viewpoint of some people.
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Raziaar said:
The thing is man, how does Doom 3 not "appeal to your preference in gaming?" It's a Sci-fi FPS, essentially the same exact type of game that HL2 is, and you have 600 posts on this HL2 board. It just boggles my mind when people bash games like Doom 3 or Halo 2 on HL2.NET. Why can't there be room for a ton of awesome FPS games?
Fanboyism is a disease.
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Alig said:I gotta say and so do you. You are looking for the smallest little things to knock Doom3, very, very sad pal. Your bothered about the very ends of their feet clipping, heh get a life.
If you dont like Doom3 then just let it pass by, you'll be one of the only people that play games that will let it pass by though so tra and god forbid you if Doom3 turns out to be a massive success online and you'll have no Doom3.
I know what your doing...yeah! your so hung up in HL2 you cant find room for another game and you dont like other games doing things better than HL2 does.
Doom3 has pretty good monsters, name another game with a pinky in or something similar? (except doom1/2)
Oh and knock Doom3's monsters for the rest of your life, i know your wrong _but_ everytime i see an Antlion in HL2 i'll think of these ( http://assall.de/movie-prop/scifi/sf_37.jpg) from Starship Troopers so dont talk about creativity concerning Doom3 ok?
Why the hell do you have to put in some stupid comparison of HL2 and change it into Doom 3 vs. HL2 thread...
(I'm basically refering to DarkStar who in the first place had to but in with the "starship troopers crap") :hmph:
Screw rip offs and copies, enjoy both games! Games aren't meant to be original and heck I don't care if they take a lot of inspirations from movies.
<3 Hl2 and doom3
oh, by the way...OMG that screenshot is hawt!
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lans said:
Wait, he did not just butt in and START a hl2 vs D3 debate. Someone said the models in Doom 3 were un-original and that made the game suck. He then simply asked why is it ok for HL2 to have un-original monsters but not Doom 3. He did not say one game was better than the other in his posts...
Some people, anytime they see something that is pro-Doom3 they think that also makes it Anti-HL2 ...
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Sorry DarkStar but when you say the upside down spider heads are original they are not. If you've seen the movie "The Thing" you know what i'm talking about. Also who cares, it doesn't make one game better then the other because it has more original idea's. You can draw comparsions of Doom 3 with various other movies or games, just like you can do with HL2.
For example,
Doom 3 has zombies, lots of them
HL2 has zombies, except they have this little headcrab thing going for them.
But the headcrab was inspired by the facehugger.
That big monster guy in Doom 3 thats always paraded in screenshots looks really generic to me. Also that zombie commander dude with the tentacle thing looks like it
was ripped out of an anime cartoon.
But the Striders also look like they're ripped out of The War of the Worlds.
Also the antlion does have alot of similarites (and i mean ALOT) to the STT bugs, but after seeing them fly in this years video and after seeing the Ant Lion Guard i'm not going to give a shit.
(Doom 3)The zombie survival thing has been done to death with the RE and SH games.
(HL2)Half-Life was more like a remake of the original Doom in a different setting anyway
Either way, i don't think anyone really cares that much because both games are going to be really good and i'm going to buy them both.
Personally though, i think HL2 has more originality when it comes to monsters. Other then the Antlions of course.
For example,
Doom 3 has zombies, lots of them
HL2 has zombies, except they have this little headcrab thing going for them.
But the headcrab was inspired by the facehugger.
That big monster guy in Doom 3 thats always paraded in screenshots looks really generic to me. Also that zombie commander dude with the tentacle thing looks like it
was ripped out of an anime cartoon.
But the Striders also look like they're ripped out of The War of the Worlds.
Also the antlion does have alot of similarites (and i mean ALOT) to the STT bugs, but after seeing them fly in this years video and after seeing the Ant Lion Guard i'm not going to give a shit.
(Doom 3)The zombie survival thing has been done to death with the RE and SH games.
(HL2)Half-Life was more like a remake of the original Doom in a different setting anyway
Either way, i don't think anyone really cares that much because both games are going to be really good and i'm going to buy them both.
Personally though, i think HL2 has more originality when it comes to monsters. Other then the Antlions of course.
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Sweet, this game will rock house.
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Dude, somebody please tell me those aren't in-game graphics. Far Cry doesn't even look that good on my computer.
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Well, if you can count on one person jumping into any Doom3 thread you could possibly create and having something negative to say, it's Raziaar. It speaks well for this particular shot that thats the biggest complaint you have. The feet actually appear to be hitting the ground properly despite the un-eveness of this particular area, and will appear even more convincing in motion. Need I dig up the hl2 screenshot with the combine standing level on a 45 degree inclined polygon? DOom3 does an excellent job in this reguard. Look at this one: http://www.doom3world.org/gallery/doom3/gamestar_1203//images/doom3_gamestar_1203_06.jpg
Looks impressive to me, the way the feet appear to hit the surface properly no matter how un-even it is.
The design of the demonic arachnids is fine IMO. I see nothing wrong with it, and you havn't pointed out a design flaw as of yet either. All you have done is simplified the creature to make it sound mundane, such as "All it is is a head with legs". The same can be done for any creature. How creative is a guy with a gasmask. How creative is a big bug. Oh, I guess hl2's creature design sucks hairy balls, huh?. No. The combine is well designed because of how it is put together, same for the trite. Wether something is creatively designed or not has nothing to do with how mundane it is when you break it down into individual parts, and everything to do with how those individual parts have been put together and work together in the final product.
With that said, Doom3 designers have done an excellent job. The Hellknight and Pinky are masterpieces, to name a few.
Looks impressive to me, the way the feet appear to hit the surface properly no matter how un-even it is.
The design of the demonic arachnids is fine IMO. I see nothing wrong with it, and you havn't pointed out a design flaw as of yet either. All you have done is simplified the creature to make it sound mundane, such as "All it is is a head with legs". The same can be done for any creature. How creative is a guy with a gasmask. How creative is a big bug. Oh, I guess hl2's creature design sucks hairy balls, huh?. No. The combine is well designed because of how it is put together, same for the trite. Wether something is creatively designed or not has nothing to do with how mundane it is when you break it down into individual parts, and everything to do with how those individual parts have been put together and work together in the final product.
With that said, Doom3 designers have done an excellent job. The Hellknight and Pinky are masterpieces, to name a few.
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Thats an awesome screenshot, notice how nice that background looks!! IDSoftware kept almost everything a secret, even though there was a leak a while back there wasnt enough material to ruin anything and it was old. Its best when you are not expecting anything and then you get everything and i believe this is whats going to happen when doom3 is released, i hope so.
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DarkStar said:
Heh. Guess.
