New gun law in Florida

[qckbeam]

if this law was nothing to do with guns then every news station and source wouldn't be blabbering on how about this is for mainly guns. It may be a self defensive bill, but i could already hurt someone if they hurt me... so i dont see why this bill needed to be passed at all. If someone attacked me before the bill then after, i wouldn't change how i respond, i would still beat the dudes ass. Either way this bill isn't helping anything, it's just making things more complicated and telling people hey before you call the cops KILL the guy! or at least hurt him so bad that the hospital can!

No, shadow, you couldn't go after an attacker before this. In the article it specifically mentions that this new law erases ones "duty to retreat" when one fears for his or her own life outside of the home. Before this you were obligated to look for a way to exit the situation first, and inflict harm only if you could not find any other way to escape. That is a rather difficult decision to make when your life is in the balance. You don't have time to take a step back, examine all possible points of exit, and choose one when a man is about to put a bullet in your head or cut your throat. So, if you're in a life threatening situation, you can now act without fear of legal repercussions coming back to bite you down the road. That is all this measure allows for. That's all it does. It doesn't apply to any other situation. If your life is in danger, you can take violent action against your assailant.

 

[IonizeMyAtoms]

Anyone see the Daily Show story on this? Brilliant.

Silly, silly Bush's.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I'll never udnerstand the people who say stuff along the lines of

"Someone mugs me? I'd never kill or shoot another person, I'd just use my elite jujitsu skills and slyly kick the gun out of his hand, before ultimately escaping. Anybody who can't do that is a coward killer and deserves to be mugged!!111"

 

[qckbeam]

i dont know bout u qck but i dont know many people who "looked" for a way to escape first... if u were attacked u fought, unless u were a bitch. That's how we grew up round here, and other places i've been are the same.

Well in Florida it seems you could come under legal fire from your attacker for doing just that. The whole "duty to escape" rule seemed ridiculous to me and quite a few others it would seem. If someone is going to attack me, I'd rather they not have the assurance that I won't fight back because I'm afraid of getting sued for unlawful use of force or some such nonsense, and if it's a life or death situation I had found myself in I would be glad to know that if I have to kill the assailant I won't be put on trial myself because I failed to use some other means of escape.

 

[bliink]

it's just making things more complicated and telling people hey before you call the cops KILL the guy! or at least hurt him so bad that the hospital can!

Purposely wounding someone instead of killing them tends to demonstrate that you weren't in mortal danger to begin with because you were in a position of control. Not good if you want to plead self-defense.

I forsee you ending up in prison.. :cheers:

 

[GiaOmerta]

yea but the point is that they can still shoot at anyone anytime they feel their life's threatened... imo that's HORRIBLE! on your own property sure... but when your in public it's the officers job to protect you not you. Besides that people can make stories up easily now covering up the tru reason of why they shot someone. This just spells trouble all over. And im a gun advocate too, shit my dad is in the NRA, and i will be too. But this is overboard....

One word. Forensics.

 

[Kebean PFC]

I'll never udnerstand the people who say stuff along the lines of

"Someone mugs me? I'd never kill or shoot another person, I'd just use my elite jujitsu skills and slyly kick the gun out of his hand, before ultimately escaping. Anybody who can't do that is a coward killer and deserves to be mugged!!111"

Same here. A am a good shot, what some of you may call "1337 skillzorz." Why can't i decide to kill my assailant if he comes after me with lethal force? Why must i run? All this law does is allow me to defend myself.

All of you here that feel that this law is wrong must live in an area where the cops are only a few blocks away. Where i am, it would take police 30-40 minutes just to get here. So what do i do during this time? Hide? What if i am found, what if i don't have the time to hide?

Before this law, i could have attempted to kill you, and when you shot me in the chest and i survived, i could sue you for "attempted manslaughter." Is that right?

 

[iyfyoufhl]

i dont know bout u qck but i dont know many people who "looked" for a way to escape first... if u were attacked u fought, unless u were a bitch. That's how we grew up round here, and other places i've been are the same.

stiff neck

anyway, might as well give us nukes so we can "protect" ourselfs