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Dont know if people have heard about this but i will post it anyway:
From Shacknews.com
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so basically what activision are saying is 'unless you stop being money grabbing bastards and let people get involved in there hobby with out paying prices to get you a boat, then you aint gettin our download!!'?
If thats correct, then thats great
if not, then its 1.00 in the morning and i cant make sense of stuff so bleh
EDITk, i think im totally wrong there, but bleh, i'll leave it up if people wanna make fun of what i said
If thats correct, then thats great
if not, then its 1.00 in the morning and i cant make sense of stuff so bleh
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k, i think im totally wrong there, but bleh, i'll leave it up if people wanna make fun of what i said
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The point isnt whether or not the Demo can be gotten through other means. It basically is that Activision and FP have now decided to make people pay for a game DEMO. How do they expect people to test the game and see if they want to buy the full thing if they are expected to pay for it.
Personally, exclusives bother me but i can understand platform specific exclusives (doesnt mean i like them). But to make a DEMO exclusive means limiting the market you are exposing that demo to, which makes no sense from a marketing perspective unless you are looking for a small testbase, which isnt the case here.
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yeah the idea of having to PAY to test a game that you will have to PAY (ok, should pay you pirates) for later is ludicris.
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Yes, but it isnt very good publicity imho.
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Activision = limp
big thumbs down to FP too
One of the most anticipated titles for wwii gaming clans, and they're trying to shaft the community & run up FP's bottom line
big thumbs down to FP too
One of the most anticipated titles for wwii gaming clans, and they're trying to shaft the community & run up FP's bottom line
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LOL!
Dont be a bunch of ****ing sissys, its only 25 cents a day to subscribe, and you get acess to exclusive content. Where do people get off these days thinking they dont have to pay for anything? boohoo music should be free, ill just boot up kazaa and steal it. Boohoo i shouldnt have to pay to see a movie, ill just d/l it. Boohoo i shouldnt have to pay fileplanet for their services, ill just go to a forum and ****ing whine, BOOHOO! Cry me a river.
Heres a hint to those who havnt caught on yet, LIFE ISNT FREE! As a man its your responsibilitty to pay your way in this world. You know what a baby does when he doesnt have what he wants? He cries about it. You know what a man does when he doesnt have what he wants? He does what he has to do to pay for it, or he goes on without it.
Grow up.
Dont be a bunch of ****ing sissys, its only 25 cents a day to subscribe, and you get acess to exclusive content. Where do people get off these days thinking they dont have to pay for anything? boohoo music should be free, ill just boot up kazaa and steal it. Boohoo i shouldnt have to pay to see a movie, ill just d/l it. Boohoo i shouldnt have to pay fileplanet for their services, ill just go to a forum and ****ing whine, BOOHOO! Cry me a river.
Heres a hint to those who havnt caught on yet, LIFE ISNT FREE! As a man its your responsibilitty to pay your way in this world. You know what a baby does when he doesnt have what he wants? He cries about it. You know what a man does when he doesnt have what he wants? He does what he has to do to pay for it, or he goes on without it.
Grow up.
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Dont make me laugh. No offense intended but i think your post irrelevant. First of all, i do NOT think life is free or should be. I was raised on the concept of paying for the services you use. I OWN (as in paid for) a LEGAL copy of Photoshop, I plan to buy Dreamweaver and Flash, I BUY games and music. I am not rich, i am a college student and its hard to always pay for things but i believe i should pay for services i use, especially if i use them often. I take offence at your post because you spread accusation without knowing what you are talking about.
That aside, the point is not merely an issue of cost. Its an issue that Activision is limiting the spread of a demo of a product they want people to buy to a select few who pay for a service with FP (not that fileplanet is much of a service if you ask me). I dont fully blame Activision because FP probably paid them a chunk of change in order to get the exclusive, and since Activision is out to make money well why not. Nevertheless, a demo is an advertisement. Guess what but Activision is trying to SELL the game to us, making people pay to try it out is just ludicrious and limiting it to the small set of people who have an FP account just limits their audience. Its not hard to see that this defeats the purpose of releasing a demo in the first place. Also, part of the problem (as i read somewhere but forget where) is that Activision refuses to tell sites when the exclusivity deal would end. It could last a week or a month.
I dont know about you but i dont want to be subject to stupid ploys by people who would like me to spend money on their products.
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no sh*t ife isnt free Mr. Moneybags, but its simply being greedy to want people to pay just to get a glimpse of a game so that they can pay more later.
PS and OT: The "greater than" sign in your nickname is pointed the wrong way, might want to fix that, or else maybe youve stumbled into the wrong board
PS and OT: The "greater than" sign in your nickname is pointed the wrong way, might want to fix that, or else maybe youve stumbled into the wrong board
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Guess what? WHAT? You aren't paying for the Call of Duty demo. You're paying for Fileplanet service which OFFERS the demo. Its an exclusive, therefore an incentive to sign up for Fileplanet. The demo requires a FILEPLANET subscription to download, you do not pay to download the demo.
And if it frustrates you so much, that sometimes you can't get something you want for free just because other similar things are free.... don't buy it when its release. Fight the system, bring down the man. Logical progression is EVIL. Pay to download is a horrid idea. Kazaa for life!
And if it frustrates you so much, that sometimes you can't get something you want for free just because other similar things are free.... don't buy it when its release. Fight the system, bring down the man. Logical progression is EVIL. Pay to download is a horrid idea. Kazaa for life!
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Actually I'm not paying for FP or for the COD demo, nor am I pirating it. I simply will not play it. So please try not to throw me into some stereotype, and sorry if my views conflicted with yours. I am a horrible human being and you should put me out of my misery.
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Banana....
I don tgive a **** how you were raised or what kind of shit you have paid for, the fact remains you guys are just crying because you cant get the demo for free. You dont seem to understand that Activision can do whatever the hell they want with the demos, they are not obligated to make sure every gamer who is slightly interested in the demo can get it fast and easy with as little trouble as possible. If they dont want to pamper a bunch of whiney gamers they dont have to. If they want to make some cash by selling exclusitivity to fileplanet thats their choice. If you want the demo you have to play by the rules of the person who is giving the demo.
Awww, boohoo. poor thing. NOBODY wants to be subject to stupid ploys AKA smart business moves by greedy people who want to rob you AKA business people who are just doing their job by selling a product. But its their choice, not yours. The world isnt built around your wants, its built around very simple ideas such as, "I have something you want and i expect compensation for letting you have it"
I don tgive a **** how you were raised or what kind of shit you have paid for, the fact remains you guys are just crying because you cant get the demo for free. You dont seem to understand that Activision can do whatever the hell they want with the demos, they are not obligated to make sure every gamer who is slightly interested in the demo can get it fast and easy with as little trouble as possible. If they dont want to pamper a bunch of whiney gamers they dont have to. If they want to make some cash by selling exclusitivity to fileplanet thats their choice. If you want the demo you have to play by the rules of the person who is giving the demo.
Awww, boohoo. poor thing. NOBODY wants to be subject to stupid ploys AKA smart business moves by greedy people who want to rob you AKA business people who are just doing their job by selling a product. But its their choice, not yours. The world isnt built around your wants, its built around very simple ideas such as, "I have something you want and i expect compensation for letting you have it"
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Your word is also not gospel, oh holy one.
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Go back to germany Hitler
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can we place bets on how long it takes him to be banned....
dont let him get to you guys....he is just a kiddy looking for attention.
dont let him get to you guys....he is just a kiddy looking for attention.
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You dont say? And all the time I thought this guy with the name Doom3>HL2 with a D3 avator on a HL2 board was here to share his informative opinions
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The big change in distribution came when shareware was introduced. Part of the game was given away FREE without any strings attatched. This was a huge success.
Activision is stepping backwards. Face it... a demo is a beefed up commercial! It's advertising, in the hopes that you'll buy the product you see. Would you pay for movie trailers? Would you pay for radio commercials? Would you pay for magazine ads?
The big companies are going to have to see the demo for what it is. Expensive advertising that should be free. Companies spend millions of dollars each year advertising and gaining publicity for their products. Activision has made the mistake of thinking they can profit from a commercial.
Yes, some things in life ARE free as an individual. Advertising in the capitalist society is the burden of large companies and publishers, NOT the responsibility of the consumer. Asking me to pay for a subscription for more advertising is the same thing that happened to the cable companies when they started including commercials in the paid content. It didn't make many people happy, and if we don't stop it now, we'll be paying for THEIR advertising.
Activision is stepping backwards. Face it... a demo is a beefed up commercial! It's advertising, in the hopes that you'll buy the product you see. Would you pay for movie trailers? Would you pay for radio commercials? Would you pay for magazine ads?
The big companies are going to have to see the demo for what it is. Expensive advertising that should be free. Companies spend millions of dollars each year advertising and gaining publicity for their products. Activision has made the mistake of thinking they can profit from a commercial.
Yes, some things in life ARE free as an individual. Advertising in the capitalist society is the burden of large companies and publishers, NOT the responsibility of the consumer. Asking me to pay for a subscription for more advertising is the same thing that happened to the cable companies when they started including commercials in the paid content. It didn't make many people happy, and if we don't stop it now, we'll be paying for THEIR advertising.
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No, i havnt misunderstood anything. Your not buying there kindness, your buying their product. If you want their product then i dont see how your opinion about their compassion for the poor or selfish gamer has anything to do with it. To sell exclusitivity to someone for a short time before giving it freely is a smart way to get a few extra bucks. The ONLY people who would be offended by such an action are cheapskates who dont think they should pay.
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doom you sure are a cool guy
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well put well put
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Well you know, I CARE. I didnt state those things because i thought you had any interest. You blatantly accused people on this forum (thus including myself) of not paying for things or not realizing that life isnt free. I stated those things about myself to prove to you that not everyone behaves the way you think. You made a blanket accusation and i proved you wrong. Simple as that.
You are right, it is their product and they CAN do whatever they want because it is their product. I never disputed that. That doesnt mean i have to like what they do and you know what, I AM allowed to voice my opinions and there is nothing they (or you) can do about it. I have calmly and rationally conveyed my disapproval of this sort of tactic. Nothing more. And right now i am defending my point of view in the same manner. I support the movement to complain about this tactic.
One thing you dont seem to grasp yet though is that Activision is out to make money from people. They dont have to pamper their prospective customers but they cant insult them either. And again, limiting a demo release to a few people limits exposure which will probably hurt sales in the end. It just doesnt make sense.
If you had read my post clearly, you would have seen that i didnt fully blame Activision. I placed more blame on FP for this. I'm sure neither FP or Activision expected this to happen because there have been exclusivity deals before. Exclusivity deals for demo's are just plain dumb. Its almost like buying a newspaper and then having to pay extra for all the advertisements i happened to read in said paper (i know it is not exactly the same but its the best comparison i could come up with so quickly).
I wont even bother replying to most of this last one. You seem bent on tossing around insults. I dont plan on replying to any more posts made by you on this subject because your arguments are just heated insults. I will comment on the last statement though:
They dont have something i want. THEY have something THEY want ME to pay for. That's how it works.
Enough said.
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Well arent you going to be offended after you shell out the money for nothing more than a graphic-whoring tech demo, that offers no replay value and has to resort to retelling its previous story?
The demo is a free advert. It is therefore in their interests to spread the advert as widely as possible. By giving FP an exclusive deal, they cause potential losses in revenue for all the other game sites. This causes a lot of hostility and ill-will.
To sell exclusitivity to someone for a short time before giving it freely is a smart way to get a few extra bucks. The ONLY people who would be offended by such an action are cheapskates who dont think they should pay.
It's only a smart way if it the gains outweigh the costs. I suspect that isn't going to happen in this case.
Personally, I'm not offended. I can't see any future in the idea. It wouldn't surprise me if Activision are just testing the water.
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That doesnt mean a company doesnt have the right to sell exclusitivity of their product to someone else for a short time. Its their choice, they can destribute anyway they like.
Yea, ok ill buy that. Lets continue.
No, but you DO pay for the way in which you see the trailer. You either pay for the television on which you veiw it, pay for the movie ticket at the theater and see it, or you pay for your Inet connection and download it. In this case, your not actually paying for the demo, your paying for the subscription to fileplanet. It just so happens that at the time being subscribers can get the demo before its released to the geenral public. Its a perk. So, in reality, seeing a trailer and getting this demo through fileplanet is no different.
No, but you DO pay for the radio. In this case you are not paying for the demo, noone is selling the demo, but they ARE selling a subscription, and once subscribed you can download the demo if you wish. Again, no different.
No, but you DO pay for the magazine, just as you pay for the subscription through which you have the option of downloading the demo(viewing the add)
The price is set by the owner, not by the buyer. People sell water too ;o You can even buy air at an oxygen bar. Its very simple, they have the choice of selling or giving, you have the choice of either buying or not.
Your not buying their advertising, your buying the right to use their service. If they want to include adverts into that service, thats their choice. You can either deal with it or cancel your subscription. Its pointless to whine about it.
Its not your job to decide that for them. They have a team of people more qualified than yourself who are dedicated to making those types of decisions. They can play the game any way they want. All im saying is you people shouldnt be so offended if its not the way your used to playing, or if its not the way you want to play. Does a batter complain that the pitcher didnt throw it down the middle, and threw a curve instead? Be reasonable.
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would you pay an extra fee to see exclusive previews for upcomeing movies when your already paying for tickets to see the movie in the first place
because thats pretty close to this... a demo is basically a playable advertisement for the game (but there great)
because thats pretty close to this... a demo is basically a playable advertisement for the game (but there great)
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I honestly would not be suprised if fileplanet was like new SUPER EXCLUSIVE for those ultra ultra ultra super secret pwnzer files pay 40 additional dollars a month!
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