OMG! PS3 teH br0kEn!!!

[rAdIOhEaD]

I hope this is not true, I was looking forward to the PS3,
keep in mind is reported by the inquirer and we all now how reliable these guys are,
but what if this is true? oh noes!!


"You end up with a console with half the triangle setup rate of the 360, a crippled CPU that is a bitch to program, and tools that are atrocious compared to the 360. To make matters worse, you have an arrogant set of execs telling us that twice the price is worth it for half the power, a year late. If it isn't already too late, Sony had better do something about this recto-cranial inversion or it may very well sink the console. µ"

Full article here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171

Discuss!

 

[A True Canadian]

Although you are correct in that the Inquirer is not really a reliable source, it wouldn't surprise me to see the PS3 have a bunch of problems with it. The concept of it seems too ambitious and now it appears that they've really run into a wall getting everything to work properly.

I don't know why, but I want Sony to fail this generation. I can't really put my finger on it, but I think it would be best for all of us if Sony doesn't repeat as the #1 company (in terms of sales) on the console market.

 

[hungryduck]

Sony can't seem to do anything right anymore....
UMD failed....
CD copy protection failed.....
They barely sell mp3 players/audio players anymore.....
Lost in the digital music war to apple....
AND
PS3 looks like its going to bomb.

 

[DigiQ8]

well its TheInq, not really reliable

 

[Solaris]

You know, this time last year, I was very close to buying a couple of hundreds of pounds worth of sony shares.

 

[rAdIOhEaD]

The thing is, I knew the console wouldn’t be as powerful as SONY makes it up to be, but half as powerful? c'mon! They should name it PS2.5 instead...
I really want this machine; I hope SONY can fix these problems before launch

 

[Ren.182]

PS3 wont fail, just because it has the Playstation logo on it. Though i think it will have a very slow start for two reasons. One, the price tag. Two, being so hard to code for it will take developers a while to get used to it.

I don't want any console to fail, competition is good.

 

[Anthraxxx]

/sarcasm

Riiiiiddddgggeeee Racer!

/end sarcasm


The sony hype machine has always over hyped their products, and the fanboys are always happy to eat up the hype. In the real world, The PS3 is hardly better than the 360... and even then, only as far as image quality is concerned.

 

[Asus]

There are other news bits saying Sony has issues with Dev Kits. Like this one.

 

[rAdIOhEaD]

/sarcasm

Riiiiiddddgggeeee Racer!

/end sarcasm


The sony hype machine has always over hyped their products, and the fanboys are always happy to eat up the hype. In the real world, The PS3 is hardly better than the 360... and even then, only as far as image quality is concerned.

Yes that's fine and dandy, and that was pretty much the general consensus, but now according to this report the cell processor is really slow and SONY is having problem putting the machine together....

Well, thank God we have Riiiiiddddgggeeee Racer!

 

[Shakermaker]

"No, this isn't a typo ...."

That almost screams hoax.

 

[AiM]

"No, this isn't a typo ...."

That almost screams hoax.

^^ My sentiments exactly

No other news source verifies this either, hm....

 

[smwScott]

You guys actually read The Inquirer? If I put a badly written article up about *insert random product here* and said it sucked would you care? Logic suggests you ignore anything posted on sites like The Inquirer until it is verified by another source.

And just to throw a little reason into the mix: there is a 95% chance this is bullshit.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

And just to throw a little reason into the mix: there is a 95% chance this is bullshit.

There is a 100% chance that you just pulled that number out of thin air.

Right now I doubt I'm going to get the PS3, mainly due to the price, not performance or anything.

 

[Ludah]

I'm very skeptical of the PS3, and not because of this article. After all, they aren't renowned for their accuracy or integrity.

But considering Sony's track and road, their persistent dabbling in smoke and mirrors, the lofty expectations being made by loudmouthed, boasting execs, the radically different architecture, and the sheer over-ambition associated with the console, I would not be surprised if it seriously underperformed.

In fact, part of me wants the PS3 to fail because they are a company in need of a good slap.

 

[rAdIOhEaD]

I'm very skeptical of the PS3, and not because of this article. After all, they aren't renowned for their accuracy or integrity.

But considering Sony's track and road, their persistent dabbling in smoke and mirrors, the lofty expectations being made by loudmouthed, boasting execs, the radically different architecture, and the sheer over-ambition associated with the console, I would not be surprised if it seriously underperformed.

In fact, part of me wants the PS3 to fail because they are a company in need of a good slap.

Tell me about it, there was a time when Dinosaurs ruled the earth and Nintendo too, I remember the first time I heard that SONY was making a console (Playstaion 1) I laughed and said no way those guys will beat Nintendo and Sega (sales wise), boy was I wrong...

 

[Ludah]

Tell me about it, there was a time when Dinosaurs ruled the earth and Nintendo too, I remember the first time I heard that SONY was making a console (Playstaion 1) I laughed and said no way those guys will beat Nintendo and Sega (sales wise), boy was I wrong...

Oh, I have no doubt that it will sell. My guess is that they'll still be #1 for one more generation, but without such a massive head over MS and Nintendo. But I think a lot of people took a whiff of the PS3's expo and went away with the pungent odor of bullshit. The PS2 wasn't as developer-friendly as the competition, but the PS3 is taking a very different technological approach that essentially forces many developers to completely relearn how to write their games.

A lot of people also remember them exaggerating or in some cases outright fabricating the power of the PS2 with technical workarounds and prerendered footage. I don't know about you, but I'm keeping that in mind this time around.

 

[WhiteZero]

The Inq: Spreading ignorance daily.

 

[PvtRyan]

And just to throw a little reason into the mix: there is a 95% chance this is bullshit.

You realize how ironic that is when looking at your sig, right?

 

[VictimOfScience]

The Inq: Spreading ignorance daily.

Seconded. There will always be problems with new systems, but this is just ridiculous.

 

[Asus]

The reports are about the dev kits. I'm sure they will have a well working PS3 at launch. :burp:
Afterall they do have games being developed on the system so I doubt it is much of an issue.

I've never seen the inquirer caught for making stuff up. But they def. just report on anything and think it is news worthy. A lot of stuff does not even pan out that they report.

 

[smwScott]

You realize how ironic that is when looking at your sig, right?

Yeah, that was kind of the idea. Should of put some kind of reference to my sig in the original post though.

 

[JellyWorld]

According to the posts on slashdot, Local memory refers to the graphics card memory, so there's absolutely no reason why the CPU should need to access that, hence the low read speeds.

 

[IchI]

Sigh....

 

[Asuka]

Fake very very fake...

The ps3 has NO WAY of failing.

 

[Asus]

According to the posts on slashdot, Local memory refers to the graphics card memory, so there's absolutely no reason why the CPU should need to access that, hence the low read speeds.

Fake very very fake...

If you read the slashdot comments then it doesn't seem to be that the info is fake. But the author thinks the 16MB/s figure is important when slashdot comments are saying it has no effect on the PS3's performance.

 

[Colonel Sanders]

Unless you guys no something I don't, I'm pretty sure this inquirer website is different from the magazine. Its main focus is the tech industry and business.

 

[sinkoman]

The thing is, I knew the console wouldn’t be as powerful as SONY makes it up to be, but half as powerful? c'mon! They should name it PS2.5 instead...
I really want this machine; I hope SONY can fix these problems before launch

Kinda like the XBOX 1/2 (aka 360)?

Not a new thing. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out the same as the 360, in that it's just a tech advancement, and not an actual new "generation".

 

[blahblahblah]

Kinda like the XBOX 1/2 (aka 360)?

Not a new thing. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out the same as the 360, in that it's just a tech advancement, and not an actual new "generation".

Realistically, you shouldn't notice that much of a difference between an X-Box and an X-Box 360. After all, the same graphics principles are the same (the use of pixel shaders). No longer will game systems distinguish themselves by going to that next graphical plateau. System developers can no longer make apparent claims of superiority by showing a console system with 3-D graphics that looks more realistic than a console with 2-D graphics. Or a console that supports pixel shaders over a console with plain 3-D graphics.

As for the Playstation 3, people have long known that it would have limitations. Rumors have gone on for years about various problems with the PS3, from cell processor development issues, to memory issues, to speed issues, and now to bandwith issues. I don't expect this to slow the Playstation 3 around, Sony will no doubt have work arounds for all of the Playstation 3 limitations.

To be honest, I am not impressed with either console. The X-Box 360 looks like its using a graphics card worse than my own (a X800 Pro), and the Playstation 3 is nice, but underwhelming.

The biggest improvement in gaming graphics wise, would be the actual output (aka monitor). Personally, going from a 17 inch cheap CRT monitor to a 20 inch wide flat panel display is like night and day. Games that looked ok now blow my mind. I suspect that consoles are suffering the same thing.

 

[sinkoman]

The biggest improvement in gaming graphics wise, would be the actual output (aka monitor). Personally, going from a 17 inch cheap CRT monitor to a 20 inch wide flat panel display is like night and day. Games that looked ok now blow my mind. I suspect that consoles are suffering the same thing.

You care too much about graphics. You should be buying games based on the substance and content, not on the candy coating.

And any CRT monitor will be miles crisper than any TV.

 

[FieryGoose]

Even though i'm not a sony consol supporter at this point, I was sort of hoping they could pull somthing together in a somewhat epic stuggle, so that there mistakes would in a way level out the playing field and basically, "let the competition begin". Anyways it will be interesting to see how sony's ps3 comes out. Good luck Sony but not too much.

 

[mortiz]

I hope the Wii is half decent. It's only console I'm even going to consider picking up this time around.

 

[VictimOfScience]

I hope the Wii is half decent. It's only console I'm even going to consider picking up this time around.

You're going to miss a whole heck of a lot of great gaming then. But it looks like all of us will miss out on at least some spectacular gaming since there probably are precious few that will be getting all three consoles.

 

[Sulkdodds]

I am posting in this thread merely to express my mirth at this:

OMG! PS3 teH br0kEn!!!
rAdIOhEaD

And while I'm here I might as well say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest bit surprised considering all PS2s appear to be built so that they fall apart after two years max.

 

[rAdIOhEaD]

I am posting in this thread merely to express my mirth at this:

And while I'm here I might as well say I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest bit surprised considering all PS2s appear to be built so that they fall apart after two years max.

What about all the XBOX 360s and the red lights of death?, people say XBOX 360s failure rate is really high now, but since I don't have one I can't really say, anyways it seems that Nintendo is the only one without this reputation of bad quality consoles...

 

[Stigmata]

it seems that Nintendo is the only one without this reputation of bad quality consoles...

Agreed. My N64 never crapped out on me. I have a used SNES that's filled with dust, not to mention that part of the plastic casing is gone, and it still runs fine. And the only reason my Gamecube doesn't work factory-fresh is because my little brother decided to open the tray while a game was in and immediately spin the disc backwards really fast. Somehow, this action damaged a bit of the internal memory responsible for making the "Close the disc tray!" error messages look pretty, but it runs perfectly other than that.

The 360 does seem to be having a pretty huge amount of hardware problems. Personally, I attribute this to the fact that since half of 360 gamers are apparently subscribed to Xbox Live, this means that roughly half of all 360 gamers have a very high chance of actually being the ones who would use online forums to post their problems, as opposed to last generation, where most people would rather call tech support than bitch about their console on the internet.

Also, a lot of the "problems" stem from idiots who decide to tip the console while it's spinning a disc.

 

[JNightshade]

It's funny, I've NEVER had a console or anything die on me. I've had one issue with my gamecube (for whatever reason, Metroid Prime 1 and 2 make it occasionally freeze :/) but otherwise, nothing.

 

[Gray Fox]

Wait my psx still very much works perfectly as it has always done?

In any case, this might be true since I clearly remember that the PSP was to have 300 Mhz core and it ended having a 200 Mhz core, now they may have done that just to save the crappy battery, since some people have hacked their PSP's and are happely playing with a 300 Mhz CPU, now consoles can get plenty of power. But the point is Sony did not deliver on that.

Altough this seems a little bit far fetched since this is something that sony could have know for a very long time, and seeing the high price it's most likely really going to deliver, simply because sony would never recover from this, they would lose a lot more then this generation, their reputation would be tarnished for life. It would be a real shame though if this turns out to be true.

 

[Alig]

Sony can't seem to do anything right anymore....
UMD failed....
CD copy protection failed.....
They barely sell mp3 players/audio players anymore.....
Lost in the digital music war to apple....
AND
PS3 looks like its going to bomb.

Ipod's was overhyped. My Sony Ericsson W810i phone (which has built in sony walkman) beats down any Ipod for sound quality and loudness and doesn't cost £150+.

PS3 won't fail, it has far to many decent games to fail, even if it has less power, which is still just speculation... Look at the PS1 to the N64, the N64 was more powerful and what came out on top by a long shot? The power of a console means nothing, the games on the console mean everything.

 

[Gray Fox]

Power does mean alot, it allows the devs to do more stuff and gives them more freedom, it also brings higher costs. Look at supcom, that could not have been done on anything less then high end hardware. Plus you got the fact that the power is really the biggest plus point of this console, without it the 360 is a far better choice, and it's cheaper. Now the ps3 will have good games, but so did the N64, in the end it could not keep up with the larger and more diverse librabry of the psx, same thing could happen between the 360 and ps3, plus the 360 is easier and cheaper to develope for.

And when it comes to power between the psx and N64, they were very close, one was better in some things the other in others.