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MORRIS: You know, Al Qaeda is voting in this election with their silence. ... Do you hear a peep out of them? Do you hear a bin Laden tape? Do you hear a threatening gesture? Do you hear any kind of statement that any of them is making? And they know that if they attack, uh, the United States or in some major terrorist target that that's gonna raise the fear level and that it will help Bush. ... But Putin, who is opposed to it, said that a victory for Kerry would -- would not help the war on terror.
HANNITY: Yeah. ... I think your analysis is 100 percent right, and I think they know politically that an attack would help George W. Bush. I think they are that savvy and that aware of our political system.
true dat.seinfeldrules said:The US's response to Osama "Go f**k yourself".
Innervision961 said:No ones saying that dip, why don't you calm down eh?
And the comment about civil liberties in which you refer to so eloquently in your post, maybe he knows oppression, he compared bush to other arab leaders (monarchs) whos fathers rule the country then whos sons rule the country, as they disban all sensible civil liberties.
No ones agreeing with him. And maybe you should do some research on Israel... They aren't the victims either you know.
Apos said:Osama isn't commanding vast armies or nations. He's leading a tiny movement. What we have to do is root the guy and his people out, wherever they are: the Kerry strategy. Not go stumbling around destabilizing areas like Iraq that then become fodder for manpower and weapons. You can't beat terrorism as an idea, but you can destroy this particular terrorist network, which is one of the only ones in the world who will actually resort to terrorism.
What's really amusing is that all the right wing pundits had just gotten through a week of claiming that Al Qaeda's silence proves that they want Kerry to win:
But now that Osama and the weird American dude have surfaced.... well did you think this story was going to end with right wingers being consistent? Nah: now they claim that the NON-SILENCE of Al Qaeda proves that they want Kerry.
Hacks.
Hapless said:Oh, I forgot. There was no terrorism before Osama. Once we get him the war is over. He is responsible for every terrorist attack ever. The Achille Lauro, Pan Am Flight 103, everything
Mr Stabby said:also its a very small minority who support the terrorist ideals
Homer said:The single biggest problem in the middle east today is that the Muslim leaders aren't willing to say "Yea, terrorism is a problem. It needs to be solved".
Shakermaker said:Those muslim-leaders don't like Osama either, trust me. Osama wants the muslim-masses to stand up and overthrow the corrupt and dictatorial regimes in the Middle East. Do you think those regimes like that?
Oh, ok. So I can go around, killing innocent women and children, and smash commercial airliners into large buildings filled with innocent people, and It's ok as long as I'm fighting for my people.Wraith said:theres nothing sick about fighting back against someone who has attacked your people.
We talk the talk. We have yet to walk the walk.seinfeldrules said:The US's response to Osama "Go f**k yourself".
mchammer75040 said:So the vid is supposed to be 18 minutes long, that seems like what..2 minutes? What else is on that damn tape..
Then what sort of credible 'news' agency are they? :|Sprafa said:Al-Jazeera refuses to divulgue that...
oldagerocker said:Then what sort of credible 'news' agency are they? :|
We talk the talk. We have yet to walk the walk.
seinfeldrules said:Hes on the run faster than a school girl from a serial rapist.
A school girl usually can't get away from a serial rapist. And since you republicans claim the huge job we are doing in the hunt for Bin Laden, why don't we just put that serial rapist in a van. How often does a school girl get away from a serial rapist in a van?
seinfeldrules said:He really isnt much of a threat when he is on the run all the time. However, that doesnt mean Al Qaeda isnt a threat.
PS. a school girl would run like hell from a guy trying to rape her, but she cant outlast him forever as you mentioned.
Hapless said:Wow, that whole post makes no sense. "no-one's agreeing with him, except when he bags on Bush for being the son of another president." I've done plenty of research on Israel, genius. How much do you know about it?
sublidieminal said:How is he on the run? I mean, wouldn't he be on the run if the U.S. was near his tail? I haven't heard anything about the U.S. and their finds about Osama's whereabouts in a while. Wouldn't you assume they aren't near finding him, and that he doesn't need to jump from cave to cave? What makes you think he doesn't have an established heaquarters?
Innervision961 said:It makes perfect sense ass, I never agreed with him. Not even about the comparison between bush and arab monarchs. I said it was ironic, and that he probably knows what oppression is considering he and the taliban held down an entire country in afghanistan... Doesn't mean I think he is right.
And what do you want to know about israel? Like that the actuall state of israel was proclaimed in the late 40's, jerusalem is the capital (was formerly tel aviv until they stole that area, most arab countries recognize tel aviv as the capital as they believe israel proclamation of jerusalem as capital to be illegal)... Or how about UN resolution 194, that like Iraq, israel has failed to comply with? And that israel has been to war or in conflict with just about every arab country, syria, lebanon, egypt, iraq, jordan, even saudi arabia. They are building a wall for apartheid... How about the IDF killing children as they leave schools, or missiling "terrorist targets" and killing 100's of civillians.
Yeah the palestinians do it too. They are just as guilty. They bomb innocent people and kill women and children as well. But you really can not pick sides in this (israel vs palestine). Thats my point, and thats exactly what our government has done, and thats exactly why we are hated by arabs the world over, because of our undying fait in israel, even though they seem to enjoy spying on us and helped us come to the conclusion that we must invade iraq.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/27/eveningnews/main639143.shtml.
seinfeldrules said:He really isnt much of a threat when he is on the run all the time.
However, that doesnt mean Al Qaeda isnt a threat.
Sprafa said:Seinfeldrules, look at he video. Does he looks like he's on the run ?
It looks to me he has a nice place (executive table, clean clothes, wall looks well painted, good camera) to make his footage, with several educated supporters around him, since the tape was translated into English.
Hapless said:Well, "ass," the reason they have been to war with every Arab country is because the day after Israel became a nation, five Arab countries attacked them. Of course, those Arab countries got their asses handed to them. There was no "stealing" of anything. The British owned that whole area prior to it becoming Israel, and it was originally a part of the Ottoman Empire. In fact, Jordan was part of the same parcel of land. There was never a "Palestinian State," (prior to 1988). Furthermore, when Jews began immigrating to Israel during the early 20th century, they were subjected to much violence and some Palestinian leaders went so far as to cooperate with the Nazi's due to their shared hatred of Jews, declaring jihad against the allies and recruiting muslims into the SS. The Nazi's were rather uncomfortable with this due to the fact that these weren't Aryans, but "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," you know. As for res. 194, compliance with the resolution, as I read it, is a two way street. The Palestinians haven't complied with it either.
On an interesting side note. the European Union provides financial support for the Palestinian suicide bombers along with Iran and until very recently Iraq, but I guess that's ok since the U.S. supports Israel. Supporting suicide bombers and taking bribe money from Saddam through the "Oil for Food," program, that's the kind of allies we need in this war.