Persona of Millenium

[iyfyoufhl]

Who would you nominat as the most important person of our millenium?

I am leaning towards Edison, for his invention of elecrisity, what about you?

 

[CptStern]

hmmm that's too hard to pinpoint


spiritual/humanitarian: gandhi/mother therea, Rosa Parks

creative: Da Vinci ...errr maybe Picasso as well ..also Van Gogh, rembrandt, Micelangelo, Edison, Matt Groening


errr I have to stop now ...too many people to list

 

[GonzoBabbleshit]

it's practically impossible...

 

[iyfyoufhl]

hmmm that's too hard to pinpoint


spiritual/humanitarian: gandhi/mother therea, Rosa Parks

creative: Da Vinci ...errr maybe Picasso as well ..also Van Gogh, rembrandt, Micelangelo, Edison, Matt Groening


errr I have to stop now ...too many people to list

see Time said it to be Da Vinci, but i strongly feel that he didn't do anything special, no really, there are a lot more artists who are better than Da Vinci, i don't even know why he is so popular, i think he is overrated

 

[iyfyoufhl]

i'd say Crist should be the person of the millenium

 

[CptStern]

and I would disagree with you ...seeing as how christ was born 2 milleniums ago

 

[CptStern]

see Time said it to be Da Vinci, but i strongly feel that he didn't do anything special, no really, there are a lot more artists who are better than Da Vinci, i don't even know why he is so popular, i think he is overrated

didnt do anything special? he invented a whole whack of stuff years before they could even be built

when they coined the term "renaissance man" they were talking about Da vinci

 

[Absinthe]

David Hasselhoff

 

[Sainku]

David Hasselhoff

I concur. 2 votes for hasselhoff!

 

[Gray Fox]

Da vinci, Karl Marx.

 

[iyfyoufhl]

didnt do anything special? he invented a whole whack of stuff years before they could even be built

when they coined the term "renaissance man" they were talking about Da vinci

most of his works are not finished and most of them are not correct and would not work in practise

he is not the first to be a renaissance man, nor he is the only one

 

[CptStern]

yes he is ...he is THE renaissance man ... he was so prolific that he never slept a full night of sleep for most of his adult life

 

[Gray Fox]

most of his works are not finished and most of them are not correct and would not work in practise

he is not the first to be a renaissance man, nor he is the only one

Thats on purpose, in those days you didn't have patenst and copyright, so he protected his works by adding faults on purpose that only he knew the solution off. Furthermore he is the person who came clostest to the "Homo Universalis" ideal. He painted absolutely beautifully, he thouight up stuff that wouldn't be reinvernted for houndreds of years, he was a great scientist, he studied humans also.

 

[Razor]

Leonardo Da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton, for being the father of modern science.

 

[iyfyoufhl]

yes he is ...he is THE renaissance man ... he was so prolific that he never slept a full night of sleep for most of his adult life

that's not what i read in art history book

he is defenetly not the MOST important

 

[CptStern]

well ..what can I say except that book is wrong

 

[iyfyoufhl]

well ..what can I say except that book is wrong

i'm not saying that he wasn't i'm just saying that he is not THE RM

define that word for me anyways, and don't give me a link, tell me in yourown words

 

[el Chi]

Leonardo Da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton, for being the father of modern science.

See, see! Two male "parents" - it DOES work!

Oh, and my vote would also go to David Hasselhoff, except the man doesn't have an ironic bone in his body, which is rather peculiar, given his status as an actor, performer and human being.

 

[seinfeldrules]

George Washington

 

[CptStern]

i'm not saying that he wasn't i'm just saying that he is not THE RM

define that word for me anyways, and don't give me a link, tell me in yourown words

sorry all I have time for is a link:



Renaissance man:

A man who has broad intellectual interests and is accomplished in areas of both the arts and the sciences

here's why

http://www.mos.org/leonardo/bio.html

 

[iyfyoufhl]

sorry all I have time for is a link:



Renaissance man:

A man who has broad intellectual interests and is accomplished in areas of both the arts and the sciences

here's why

http://www.mos.org/leonardo/bio.html

Another name for Renaissance man is Universal man, and this is the one of the main consepts of Renaissance period, meaning that a man should be perfect in everything: arts, science, poetry ect. I think this consept is wrong and outdated. as i said, Leonardo, wasn't famous untill not too long ago (reletivly) and the only reason why we know him is because of Mona Lisa (nothing special besides the whole controversy behind her smile and gender issue)
Leonardos solution to a classical problem, which he "solved" by the geometrical drawing of "Man", is not correct, most of his theories are bougus, if you read his writings he sounds very amature and sometimes silly. He only painted about 5 paintings and most of them are not finished. He defused himself too much and consentrated on a lot of different tasks which he never followed though with.

once agian, there is nothing special about Leonardo DaVinci

 

[Gray Fox]

Well then tell us who is the renaissance man, and why that person is better for the title then Da Vinci.

 

[iyfyoufhl]

Well then tell us who is the renaissance man, and why that person is better for the title then Da Vinci.

i just did, the whole renaissance man thing is very stupid and would never work in todays world, being a renaissance man means nothing escapt as a historical description

 

[Cuddlez.ini]

I would have to say that Sir Isaac Newton is the greatest person to live in the last 1000 years. He basically invented Calculus and using that figured out the foundation of the universe and formed the structure for modern physics. Without his contributions just about every "modern" thing would not exist.

 

[CptStern]

no, leonardo was very well known in his time ...he received commissions from the wealthy elite

 

[Sainku]

Danny DeVito is the renaissance man. Everyone knows that.

But seriously I think edison deserves it.

 

[iyfyoufhl]

no, leonardo was very well known in his time ...he received commissions from the wealthy elite

for this time, but he was forgotten, he only worked for one man is whole life

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Wright bros, most likely.

They are most important because if they had somehow died before inventing the plane, we would all have zeppelins now.

Stupid Wright brothers.

 

[Sprafa]

Wright bros, most likely.

They are most important because if they had somehow died before inventing the plane, we would all have zeppelins now.

Stupid Wright brothers.

You're underestimating Santos Dummont.

I would say it would be tie between - Albert Einstein = Science / Mohatma Ghandhi = Politics / Karl Marx = Philosophy/Economics/Revolutions

you might say I'm 20th century oriented and I would agree.

 

[seinfeldrules]

They are most important because if they had somehow died before inventing the plane, we would all have zeppelins now.

There were other people working on similar designs at the time. If they hadnt done it somebody else would have soon after.

I'm posting this unsure of your seriousness.

 

[oldagerocker]

Boris Johnson :cheese:




nah... possibly Ghandi, Hitler, Karl Marx, President Clinton, Winston Churchill.

 

[kirovman]

I would have to say that Sir Isaac Newton is the greatest person to live in the last 1000 years. He basically invented Calculus and using that figured out the foundation of the universe and formed the structure for modern physics. Without his contributions just about every "modern" thing would not exist.

Yup, but he was also a bastard when it came to dealing with people.

I think it was Leibniz who developed infinitessimal calculus, separately and at the same time as Newton. However Newton discredited all of his work.

Leibniz took the case to the Royal Institute of Science to complain that he had developed Calculus at the same time, but unfortunately for him Newton was the head of this institution.

 

[Mith']

Ghengis Kahn/Kubilai/Mongols
http://home.ca.inter.net/~giskhan/Z11.GIF

 

[iyfyoufhl]

Ghengis Kahn/Kubilai/Mongols
http://home.ca.inter.net/~giskhan/Z11.GIF

that only makes him the worst man in history

 

[Mith']

that only makes him the worst man in history

No, the mongols praised culture, religion and trade... They also helped spreading the arab language throughout Asia (making it easier for people to understand eachother)... And have you ever heard about a man called Marco Polo?

 

[Tr0n]

Me.

6char

 

[kirovman]

No, the mongols praised culture, religion and trade... They also helped spreading the arab language throughout Asia (making it easier for people to understand eachother)... And have you ever heard about a man called Marco Polo?

I agree, although they were brutal in their undefeatable military methods, they welcomed new culture and religion. They even moved their Capital from Mongolia to Beijing, influenced by the Chinese culture (even today Chinese people claim that the Yuan dynasty meant that all of Asia belonged to China - even though it was in fact the Mongols Empire), where Marco Polo met the Khan.
They commended the people who surrendered, and obliterated the people who stood up against them. Even destroyed the livestock.

Although brutality in the 12th Century was common place thoughtout the world, so I don't see how that makes the Mongols particularly evil.

Just because you dream of world domination like Chingis Khan, doesn't make you evil. Just a warlord.

 

[Llama]

the girl which i love but will never love me

 

[Gray Fox]

Wright bros, most likely.

They are most important because if they had somehow died before inventing the plane, we would all have zeppelins now.

Stupid Wright brothers.

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2003/12/16/a-weapon-with-wings/
http://www.nzedge.com/heroes/pearse.html
http://www.google.nl/search?client=...en|lang_hr|lang_nl|lang_sr&btnG=Google+zoeken

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I was focusing on the Wrights because they popularized aviation, but Pearse might as well be grouped amoung them.
They at least partly beat out henry ford/whoever created the automobile.
It's something that we take for granted, but a world without cars or aeroplanes could be better or worse, but we can all agree that it would be astonishingly different.
Also, on the global scale, all but nothing beats the car. There's no country untouched by either the car or aeroplane. Ghandi only directly affected India and sort-of Britain. Washington only really affected America and sort-of Britain/Canada. You can bet that whatever their historical impact, there are still billions who have never heard of either.
But pretty much everyone knows a car, a truck or an aeroplane.

I agree at least partly with that first article. Which is why I wasn't entirely joking about the zeppelin thing either. They're so much cooler than aeroplanes. Quieter, more luxurious. They slow things down, rather than speed them up. I just prefer a world where things like the titanic and the hindenburg are the best modes of transportation. Although in safer forms, of course.
Now the cruise ship and blimp (an ugly noun, by the way) are novelties.
Just yesterday, my dad got back from a buisiness trip where he flew to los angeles, stayed there for one day in a small hotel and then flew back here. He was never more than a ten-minute drive from the airport the whole time. That sucks. And the whole shpiel could have been done effortlessly over the internet without the time and the pollution.

Without aeroplanes, global communications would be perfected by necessity. You can bet we would've at least had fully-functional video-phones in every home and buisiness by now. And people would only travel when they actually need to, instead of when it's easy. That kind of jet-and-go, speed-at-all-costs ideology is one of the biggest problems with society.
I'm not saying aeroplanes are all bad. I'm just saying that I personally wouldn't miss them. Zeppelin all the way.