Political Compass

I hate these things

last time I checked I was pretty much where VoS is

here's my latest

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph.php?ec=-6.63&soc=-8.51


lol! numbers you surprise me, I thought you would have been closer to the right ..must be the economic issues balancing out the social issues ..did you answer with "strongly disagree" on all social questions? btw you're right next to George Bush


btw what does this question have to with you political POV?

"Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all."

maybe it's just trick question to weed out the idiots
 
CptStern said:
btw what does this question have to with you political POV?

"Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all."

maybe it's just trick question to weed out the idiots
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I'd say disagreeing means you're socially liberal, and agreeing means you're socially conservative.

Liberals would be all like "do you think its art? well then i guess its art"
Conservatives would be all like "my five-year-old could make this, its dumb, its not art"
 
Raeven0 said:
I'd say disagreeing means you're socially liberal, and agreeing means you're socially conservative.

Liberals would be all like "do you think its art? well then i guess its art"
Conservatives would be all like "my five-year-old could make this, its dumb, its not art"
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I think that speaks more about general ignorance than political ideology

I dont see how people can be pigeon holed like that based solely on their political beliefs ..art is art ...it transcends politics

I think there are equally ignorant on both sides of the political fence ...I chock it more to culture than anything else
 
CptStern said:
btw what does this question have to with you political POV?

"Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all."

maybe it's just trick question to weed out the idiots
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From the FAQ:

What have attitudes towards things like abstract art and homosexuality to do with politics ?
On the social scale, they're immensely important. Homophobia has been highly politicised by leaders like Robert Mugabe and betrays a tendency to condemn and punish those who disregard conventional values. Hitler's pink triangles reflected similar authoritarian hostility.
Likewise, authoritarian régimes frequently attack highly imaginative and unconventional art, music and literary works as a threat to the rigid cultural conformity they uphold.
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In fact, I'd recommend everybody read the FAQ, it explains why some of the questions seem odd, slanted or badly put.

Anyhoo, this time round I got:

Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

Which is a slight shift to the right. How interesting....
 
Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74
 
Although I don't neccisarily like abstract art, I can't claim that it is not art. If you want something realistic, look at a photograph. One of the main reasons art has become abstract is because photography has made realistic art somewhat obsolete. Why paint an exact depiction of a scene when you could just snap a photo? So artists now just like to paint things that look cool or strange.

Although I do agree that abstract art often requires very little skill in comparision.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-6.50&soc=-8.00
 
theotherguy said:
Although I don't neccisarily like abstract art, I can't claim that it is not art. If you want something realistic, look at a photograph. One of the main reasons art has become abstract is because photography has made realistic art somewhat obsolete. Why paint an exact depiction of a scene when you could just snap a photo? So artists now just like to paint things that look cool or strange.

Although I do agree that abstract art often requires very little skill in comparision.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-6.50&soc=-8.00
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If it's meant to look cool etc like a neat drawing, etc, that has purpose. The question is without purpose. EG: That famous guy that smears cowshit on his canvas and sells them for like 5 grand a piece. Everyone should agree that's not art. If you think that's art you should probably kill yourself!

I'm reminded of that Simpsons episode where the abstract art lady pays Homer to get enraged and destroy stuff so that she can sell the messes he makes as abstract art.
 
yes. I think that they get paid far too much for their paintings. It really should be based more on ability and technique. You can have really really great technique and draw something abstract and odd like picasso or some of the more famous cubists, but then you can have hacks that basically splatter stuff and sell it for thousands or even millions of dollars.

I suppose its similar to music. You might have an artist who has absolutley no talent (like say, a rapper or pop queen) and they make the most money out of anyone, simply because there will always be people who pay for the novelty, just so they can say, "hey look, this song is composed entirely of one note and rhythm!" or "hey look, this painting was created in 10 seconds and is made entirely of human feces!"
 
And the worst thing is... we can do the exact same thing they do(same shitty style I mean... just randomly doing something quickly and declaring it art), and get no recognition.

The best kinds of art to me... are things that represent something. Whether realistic portraits or scenery paintings... or things similiar but in an incredibly neat, abstract way.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
If it's meant to look cool etc like a neat drawing, etc, that has purpose. The question is without purpose. EG: That famous guy that smears cowshit on his canvas and sells them for like 5 grand a piece. Everyone should agree that's not art. If you think that's art you should probably kill yourself!
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Faceplant.

Art is an attempt to create beauty. Whether you think his shit on a canvas is beautiful is irrelevant; if he has attempted to create beauty with shit on a canvas, he has created art.
 
i can't imagine one possible reason someone would whine about artists making money for doing stuff that requires no talent that isn't just because said person is bitter about it
 
Ennui said:
i can't imagine one possible reason someone would whine about artists making money for doing stuff that requires no talent that isn't just because said person is bitter about it
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Shitty artists killed my mother and raped my father.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
If it's meant to look cool etc like a neat drawing, etc, that has purpose.
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by your description it's not art. Art is not decoration, nor is functional (visual art)

RakuraiTenjin said:
The question is without purpose. EG: That famous guy that smears cowshit on his canvas and sells them for like 5 grand a piece. Everyone should agree that's not art. If you think that's art you should probably kill yourself!
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in that specific case the media (materials used) itself is what creates the message. dont confuse materials used with artistic validity ..shit (in this case) is just a means to an end: cionveying the message (whatever that may be) ... it was created to provoke some sort of reaction and is probably part of a larger art circle/movement/scene. To be brutually honest art is not created for the masses ..it's no wonder few people "get it"

RakuraiTenjin said:
I'm reminded of that Simpsons episode where the abstract art lady pays Homer to get enraged and destroy stuff so that she can sell the messes he makes as abstract art.
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it's an exaggeration but it does happen (not quite like Homer) ..however art dealers are businessmen first
 
funny that saddam and pope john paul II are in the same quadrant :p
 
CptStern said:
in that specific case the media (materials used) itself is what creates the message. dont confuse materials used with artistic validity ..shit (in this case) is just a means to an end: cionveying the message (whatever that may be) ... it was created to provoke some sort of reaction and is probably part of a larger art circle/movement/scene. To be brutually honest art is not created for the masses ..it's no wonder few people "get it"
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That's not art that's just a strange fetish or something then. Even if it's not 'shit' that's just the example I thought of, it could be paint for example, or tree leaves, etc.

People will sit there and go "I think this represents the artist's frustration with the global climate, particularly this corner of the piece"

and its like the guy's just saying "LOL no I didn't think any of that, I just smeared some paint all over a canvas, but I will accept your money, kind sir"
 
Or maybe it really is the artist's frustration with the global climate and he decided to paint it on a canvas.
 
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