Political Compass

[CptStern]

That's not art that's just a strange fetish or something then. Even if it's not 'shit' that's just the example I thought of, it could be paint for example, or tree leaves, etc.

the media is meaningless it could be any of those things because the artisitic expression/vision is what matters ..you just cant get past the shit or whatever odd thing you may think of ...and yes there was an artist who shat on canvasses ..it's part performance art and as such is meant to elicit a response

People will sit there and go "I think this represents the artist's frustration with the global climate, particularly this corner of the piece

you're exaggerating, and if that does happen it's not by knowledgeable people ..take this masterpiece as an example ..to the lay person it's just a jumble of lines that may or may not represent a person ...but without knowing in what context marcel duchamp created that image it remains the sole interpretation of the person viewing it ..and that's about anti-art as it gets ..art is the artists vision expressed in whatever form, not what his audience interprets it as

and its like the guy's just saying "LOL no I didn't think any of that, I just smeared some paint all over a canvas, but I will accept your money, kind sir"

yes because artists are making millions off their work, every last one of them :upstare: ..btw did you know van gogh died penniless? so do Modigliani, Pissarro, Rousseau and countless others

 

[Is This Tea]

btw did you know van gogh died penniless? so do Modigliani, Pissarro, Rousseau and countless others

I think he is referring more to the post 1945 New York critic’s darlings…

It kind of reminds me of what happened to alternative music when it went mainstream and no longer was “alternative.” I prefer the old Dada and Surrealists and expressionists more than Abstract Expressionism, Pop, postmodern etc…

 

[Tr0n]

Shitty artists killed my mother and raped my father.

No, that was me.

 

[JNightshade]

Owned D:

 

[Raziaar]

No, that was me.

Shitty artists hired Tr0n to kill my mother and rape my father.

Better?

<splashes the forum with pink, yellow, and neon green paint. He then drags frayed rolls of toilet paper through the mix>

There. Art.

 

[15357]

IMO, abstract art isn't really art, but I think the 'artists' should get whatever money that people pay them.


edit: You guys are scaring me. You're all anarchistic commies. D: D: D:

 

[gick]

My opinion on the subject is that art can be more or less anything, as long as people consider it to be art. If somebody took a shit on the canvas (its been done before) and calls it art, then it is art. I may think its a heap of shit that means nothing, but just because I dont 'get' what he's doing doesnt mean that I get to decide it for him. I just dont think forcing your opinions on others is the right thing to do.

 

[DeusExMachina]

IMO, abstract art isn't really art

Well it's a good thing you're not an art critic then isn't it.

 

[CptStern]

IMO, abstract art isn't really art, but I think the 'artists' should get whatever money that people pay them.

well to be honest abstract art wasnt made for you ..it's no wonder you dont understand it ..it's like expecting a person to understand quantum physics if all he knows how to do is simple addition and substraction

edit: You guys are scaring me. You're all anarchistic commies. D: D: D:

and you are ...

 

[15357]

That doesn't change the fact that you are an anarchistic comie! D: D: D:

Well it's a good thing you're not an art critic then isn't it.

Maybe, but I don't care if someone wants to pay 3 million dollars for a canvas sprayed with shit. Its their freedom to buy whatever they want (as long as its legal).

well to be honest abstract art wasnt made for you ..it's no wonder you dont understand it ..it's like expecting a person to understand quantum physics if all he knows how to do is simple addition and substraction

Yes, I have a mechanical mind.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

edit: You guys are scaring me. You're all anarchistic commies. D: D: D:

What about me?

 

[CptStern]

That doesn't change the fact that you are an anarchistic comie! D: D: D:

you're soooo deluded ..calling me of all people communist

Yes, I have a mechanical mind.

well by your own admission your opinion of art is invalid

 

[15357]

What about me?

Well, thank god, theres one sane person here.

you're soooo deluded ..calling me of all people communist

According to that graph you are. But, I'd normally call you bbalgangi, which literally mean 'red' and used to describe people leaning to the left and to the libertarian, but thats a really bad insult.

well by your own admission your opinion of art is invalid

Indeed.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

'red' and used to describe people leaning ...to the libertarian.

DOES NOT COMPUTE.

Libertarian cannot equal red. Communism = antithesis of libertarians.

 

[15357]

Social Progressive Libertarian. People use it to either insult leftists, or liberals.

 

[CptStern]

Well, thank god, theres one sane person here.

According to that graph you are. But, I'd normally call you bbalgangi, which literally mean 'red' and used to describe people leaning to the left and to the libertarian, but thats a really bad insult.

no, I'm not ..I'm closer to libertarian which isnt the same thing ..however I refuse to be pigeon-holed; political compass or not I'm not partisan nor do I hold specific political ideology that mimics political parties... my ideas are instinctual not regurgitated pap spewed by political parties in order to lull constituents into a placid state of mind.

btw I dont understand how humanitarian issues can have a negative connotation: probably because the powers that be want it that way

Indeed.

well then following that logic you should probably refrain from commenting on something you dont understand

 

[DeusExMachina]

Seriously, lumping us with Communists is almost an insult :|. There's more to the world than left=bad and right=good Numbers. Just because someone leans left doesn't mean they automatically love and believe in Communism.

 

[15357]

I meant as in other than me, of course

no, "m not ..I'm closer to libertarian which isnt the same thing ..however I refuse to be pigeon-holed. I dont understand how humanitarian issues can have a negative connotation

'Humanitarian' issues were and is used as propaganda for supporting leftism.

well then following that logic you should probably refrain from commenting on something you dont understand

Seriously, lumping us with Communists is almost an insult . There's more to the world than left=bad and right=good Numbers. Just because someone leans left doesn't mean they automatically love and believe in Communism.

I was joking. D:

 

[CptStern]

I meant as in other than me, of course

'Humanitarian' issues were and is used as propaganda for supporting leftism.

there you go again

I was joking. D:

I wasnt

 

[Absinthe]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21

Pretty much where I've been every time I took this.

 

[15357]

:|

there you go again

Say that to these guys: National Intelligence Service

But they'd probably kidnap you in the middle of the night. D: I'm being mostly serious.

I wasnt

 

[DeusExMachina]

Is like, North Korea rubbing on the South Korean government? How long have things really been like this?

 

[15357]

Since 1948.
`48 `50~`53 `55 `56 `58 `60 `61 `65 `66 `67 `70 `78 `80 `85 `89 `90 `93 `95 `96 `00 `04

Are known years of Communist attacks/propagandizing/infiltrations.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

As far as I'm concerned liberatarian is a far more right wing philosophy.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Have there ever been any real "battles" between South Korean military and NK military? Like, has each side amassed troops and fought troops in the DMZ or anything? Or busted up a secret NK group somewhere in the country?

As far as I'm concerned liberatarian is a far more right wing philosophy.

Insofar as economics is concerned. Most libertarians are socially liberal.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Insofar as economics is concerned. Most libertarians are socially liberal.

Yeah but those policies are generally what are gauged to determine what 'wing' someone is.

I am a 'socially liberal' person but you'd never hear me calling myself a liberal.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Neither would I, but still...you know, it's there.

 

[15357]

As far as I'm concerned liberatarian is a far more right wing philosophy.

I dunno much about that, though.

Have there ever been any real "battles" between South Korean military and NK military? Like, has each side amassed troops and fought troops in the DMZ or anything? Or busted up a secret NK group somewhere in the country?

Obviously, the Korean War, and the attempted assasination of our president.
But other than that, skirmishes, I'd suppose.

'75: 45 ~ 50 NK elite troops fought with ROKA Capital Guard
60s: 'Partisan' warfare.
70s: JSA gunfights (small) * 5 + attempted assasinations
80s: North Korean backed 'citizen army' uprising in Kwangju. Many KIA.
90s: NK warships VS SK warships + NK Submarine
2002: NK warships VS SK warships
2004: Man arrested for having relations with NK. Confiscated document says that he was a spy.

 

[Raziaar]

Insulting numbers seems to be a past time of yours Stern. You need to ease up a bit. No matter what he says, you always seem to accuse him of being brainwashed.

It's getting old.

 

[CptStern]

dont read it, problem solved

if he didnt post some ludicrous political ideology in every other post I wouldnt have to make that comment as often as I do ..oh and I'm not the only one

btw what's with you lately? it's almost as if you're the new HL2.net self-appointed etiquette police, mind your own business for a change

 

[Raziaar]

dont read it, problem solved

if he didnt post some ludicrous political ideology in every other post I wouldnt have to make that comment as often as I do ..oh and I'm not the only one

btw what's with you lately? it's almost as if you're the new HL2.net self-appointed etiquette police, mind your own business for a change

Etiquette police? Hardly.

It just gets a little old, some of your comments at times.

haha, I pulled a stern! Probably should of stretched first.

 

[CptStern]

a pic of a broken record would have been more effective ..so you didnt quite "pull off a stern"

 

[ComradeBadger]

The bashing of numbers does get quite tiresome.

 

[Raziaar]

a pic of a broken record would have been more effective ..so you didnt quite "pull off a stern"

Yeah... old records have a habit of being very abrasive sounding and they are always repeating themselves as well. I didn't want to post a picture of a broken record, it didn't illustrate my point well enough.


But anyways back on topic... I'm surprised how far left of the spectrum I am... but my responses to the answers didn't surprise me.

 

[CptStern]

yes but the constant stern attacks are a real hoot right ..**** this place is so one sided

 

[Raziaar]

yes but the constant stern attacks are a real hoot right ..**** this place is so one sided

I'm on your side on that one. I used to be on the other side and attacking you, but now i'm seeing that unfairly bashing any person simply based upon their beliefs... is the wrong way to go.

 

[ComradeBadger]

yes but the constant stern attacks are a real hoot right ..**** this place is so one sided

So one sided.. yeahhhh.

Anyway. REPORT posts, and they get dealt with - simple as.

Next time someone attacks you, report them.

 

[CptStern]

prepare for daily reports

 

[ComradeBadger]

rgr.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

yes but the constant stern attacks are a real hoot right ..**** this place is so one sided

they are a hoot