Pope attacks atheism

Oh wow! Next thing you know atheists will attack religion!

Oh wait, they both insult each other and blame each other for genocides etc. constantly!


Yawn.

Its good to be Agnostic at the moment

*Leans back in chair*
 
You think being Agnostic is fun? Try being Ignostic.

It's like Agnosticism when you've thought about it a bit too much.
 
You didn't remember a time you didn't believe in god, but thats changed now.
 
I keep waiting for this magical thing to happen to my life where I suddenly believe in God. A bunch of people have told me, "yeah, I used to be an atheist. You're young" what the hell does that mean.

It's not like I picked up atheism at the lunch table. My father never really talked about religion at all- he always explained things the most realistic way possible. I remember asking him about a war or something that happened in the past, "Who were the good guys?" and he said "There's never a good or bad side. One soldier thinks his way is right, the other thinks his way is, too." and that kind of just reinforced every conclusion I came to about religion, morals, and... everything.

Logically, it's impossible for God to exist. I mean, I'm all about believing in whatever you want to believe- it's one of the strongest things a person can do. If your conviction is there, there's noone that can tell you differently. That goes for all beliefs and ideologies.
 
A bunch of people have told me, "yeah, I used to be an atheist. You're young" what the hell does that mean.
Yea I know what you mean man, I live in the heartland of fundamentalism chrisitianity and it ****in sucks. A guy who lives next door told me god mailed his friend checks for thousands of dollars when they went bankrupt. According to him I'll "get it" one day. What the ****? seriously if god can do something like that, yet he does nothing for the children born with huge ass tumors on their heads everyday...give me a ****in break...
 
You didn't remember a time you didn't believe in god, but thats changed now.

Well, it was so long ago and a distant memory. Ok, so 5 years isn't long. But whatever.



Logically, it's impossible for God to exist.
I'd have to point out the old theory that their trying to revive. The multiverse. Supposedly, if a time traveler goes back and (you know know the story, kills grandfather) then he come back, the universe will still be the same, and an alternate universe would be made. Well, what is the drive and/or motivation that makes a universe realizes it has to become two and keep the original. What intelligence directs universes to split?

Ok, MAJOR speculation there, but I'm a real big believer in the multiverse. It just makes sense with string theory and all that stuff.
I mean, I'm all about believing in whatever you want to believe- it's one of the strongest things a person can do. If your conviction is there, there's noone that can tell you differently. That goes for all beliefs and ideologies.

100% agree.



Yea I know what you mean man, I live in thet...

Kind of the basis of most religions. Just do what you can and leave the rest to God. But that doesn't work out for some. Muslims say "If Allah is willing", Christians say "Please Jesus", Jews say " G*d let it be done"

Everyone does the same thing, once again leading me to think God is an observer who made most religions just to see how humanity would unite.
 
If that's the stance I wouldn't worship the ****er anyway.
 
in other words god is a prick who likes to inflict misery just for the hell of it?

Basically, yea. What do you want. The greatest challenge for humanity is to overcome our differences and unite. Putting such a behemoth of a blockade called religion on us makes it incredibly hard to unite. And when we do, we will be an all powerful species, having come over all problems.


A part of me thinks that God rewards everyone a universe to rule their way after life. It's a big multiverse.
 
Basically, yea. What do you want.

oh I dont know, a supreme being who isnt so easily amused? he sounds like a 7 year old with a magnifying glass and an anthill

The greatest challenge for humanity is to overcome our differences and unite. Putting such a behemoth of a blockade called religion on us makes it incredibly hard to unite. And when we do, we will be an all powerful species, having come over all problems.

so this one god made religion to tease us? just like he teased moses in the desert


A part of me thinks that God rewards everyone a universe to rule their way after life. It's a big multiverse

I want a universe populated with Klingons and a race of green skinned amazon women with 3 breasts
 
Well, God does seem to not care sometimes. I don't know, he usually sends a savior by now. And yea, if my theory is corrected, your 3 breasted amazons are on their way. I sure hope my imagination is correct. Seriously, if heaven is real, what else are you going to do in eternity?
 
Well, God does seem to not care sometimes. I don't know, he usually sends a savior by now. And yea, if my theory is corrected, your 3 breasted amazons are on their way. I sure hope my imagination is correct. Seriously, if heaven is real, what else are you going to do in eternity?

72 virgins? :D
 
Oh wow! Next thing you know atheists will attack religion!

Oh wait, they both insult each other and blame each other for genocides etc. constantly!


Yawn.

Quoted for overwhelming truth.
 
Pope Benedict XVI strongly criticized modern-day atheism in a major document released today, saying it had led to some of the "greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice" ever known to mankind.

Benedict also critically questioned modern Christianity

What he was really saying:

Right, you bloody atheists, stop killing people for the hell of it. You have to do it like this...

And you Christians? By gum, where's the hatred and passion gone? You should be burning people! Not standing around in the streets like buffoons!
 
Maybe he was saying that Christians were dumb shits in the past, and realized it, and begged forgiveness and did as Jesus would. While others do not. Not atheists, pretty much everyone on Earth.

Looking at the background, he was probably criticizing the Chinese government without actually saying it, as they hate religion, but are the fastest growing religious people. If the message reaches the oppressed Christians of China, it will give them hope.

Just another random though from my mind.
 
Maybe he was saying that Christians were dumb shits in the past, and realized it, and begged forgiveness and did as Jesus would. While others do not. Not atheists, pretty much everyone on Earth.

Looking at the background, he was probably criticizing the Chinese government without actually saying it, as they hate religion, but are the fastest growing religious people. If the message reaches the oppressed Christians of China, it will give them hope.

Just another random though from my mind.

Why would he criticise them right now, while their relations are at an all time high?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7126248.stm
 
So the pope says athiesm is bad? My jaw has failed to hit the flaw there.
He says it is a cause of suffering? History disagrees.

The guy is simply delusional.
 
The only reason this thread is still alive is because PortalStormzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz is posting in it. And people eagerly respond.
 
Well, it's not like I expected the Pope to praise Atheism or anything.
 
And according to John Paul 2, you can be an atheist and still be loved by God.

This Pope is messing up everything. :facepalm:
 
Why would he criticise them right now, while their relations are at an all time high?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7126248.stm

Same site:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3993857.stm

and others

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/International/story?id=1331863

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-11-16-china-churches_x.htm

Me thinks your article is just a little thing to make people feel happy. like Bush stating that the war is going good. We all know he's bullshitting, but as long as no one rebels, it's "Mission Accomplished" LOL, Irony... I think.
 
Those articles you posted are 2 or 3 years old. Mine is 3 days ago.

Relations between the Vatican and China are becoming cordial.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6282767.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6906436.stm

I don' think his attack on atheism was an attack on China, i think it was an attack on a growing atheist sentiment in the West.

Obviously people need to be coerced into believing in God.

As I said. We all know what nations do if they think they're getting over their heads. Is it just coincidence that Iran made their version of Shindler's list? This is just appeasement.
 
I have no ****ing clue what you just said, nor of its relevance to what's happening.
 
A random thought of mine might be that the Pope is agitating the Chinese gov, much like that Pope did to Hitler in WW2. (Pius?)

The Chinese Christians, along with most religions in China, are tortured. China lies and says they allow religious tolerance. Yea, SUUUUUURE. That's why they banned reincarnation for Buddhists (yes, I'm serious).
 
Yes, I understood that bit, but the Iran Schindler's list thing was in reference to what?
 
Iran appeasing to the west because they now realize that they don't stand a chance against a joint EU, US raid of their nation.
 
I... think I see the link to China. Thanks... I think. :/
 
Iran appeasing to the west because they now realize that they don't stand a chance against a joint EU, US raid of their nation.

riiight, they only now realise this, their intelligence have been working night and day to determine whether they would be able to repel the invaders and finally came to the conclusion that they couldnt so THEY PRODUCED A TELEVISION SHOW TO PROVE THEY LOVE THE JEWS




does that sound at all ridiculous? please for the love of god/spaghetti monster could you take the time to think through your response BEFORE posting it?
 
TheAmazingAethist has caused some problems in the past, so he's no YouTube super hero to me even though I find his opinions entertaining.
 
TheAmazingAethist has caused some problems in the past, so he's no YouTube super hero to me even though I find his opinions entertaining.

Likewise, but I wouldn't personally glorify him.

A good atheist refutes what few Christians stick their points in his face, smile knowing you have shown the tard to be the tard he is, knowing he won't change regardless, and walk along.



The type of atheists which actively seek out and rant against Christians aren't my cup of tea, except for when their entertaining to watch.

If I was given TAA's account this moment every response video would be like this:

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/science/


Its fitting because you know they won't actually see reason and they know fine your position and they know fine its fact, even if they publicly rant about God, in some inner fear of Death and the great beyond wooo, or they have other less philosophical and more selfish motives to fake belief in an imaginary friend in the sky.
 
I see reason. I believe in each and every statement of science thus far. So why am I, a religious person, not seeing reason?
 
I see reason. I believe in each and every statement of science thus far. So why am I, a religious person, not seeing reason?

But you reject reason that conflicts with your religious beliefs. Beliefs that are unreasonable by nature since a leap of faith has to be made in order to believe them in the first place.
 
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