Preload delayed until Monday

[Raxxman]

Kiva128, you've yet again totally missed the point of what he is saying.

Basically it goes something like this

Valve delay half-life 2

Irritated Fan> OMG This the SUXXORS!

Rampant fanboy> STFU you noob Valve owes you nothing

Iamelephant> actually Valve does owe me something, I've technically payed for HL2, so they owe me a copy of it.

Rampant fanboy> No they don't! Bla bla bla bla

Iamelephant> Yes, yes they do, I haven't said they owe me something now, I've only stated numerous times that they do indeed owe me something, which makes your statement 'Valve owes you nothing' wrong. That's what is annoying me, why don't you admit you were wrong?

Rabid fanboy> (with Male cow pat translator on) Okay, I can see now that I am in the wrong, and presumed you were saying something other than the basic premise that you have already bought HL2. However in order not to loose e-face I'm going to trash talk some more in my pro Valve mode!


Really you should just read what he's saying. It doesn't come across as bitching at Valve.

And okay so the preloads not a big deal. CS:S beta comes out but it doesn't work very well, looks like the engine’s really ropey in places, but its not a big deal. Valve misses every deadline they set themselves and its not a big deal.

So what’s the point? Like it's been said the point is they could do with being more realistic with their deadlines.

Point is if you order a taxi, and it turns up over a year late you'd be annoyed. Sure you haven't actually paid the taxi driver anything but you'd still be annoyed.

Much like if you go to a restaurant, order some food. At this point you've not exchanged money, you're not owed anything, but you'd expect to be served and expect to receive a meal. Again if this meal were to be a year late you'd get annoyed.

Neither of these points are particularly relevant to the current situation but then again the majority of the valve owes you nothing arguments have logic flaws as well in several respects which I really can't be bothered.

So to conclude, Sstop bitching, and stop bitching at bitchers, I'm adding another bitch to see how many bitches I can get into a sentence. (It's been a loong day in the lab.)

 

[alehm]

So let me get this straight, people are mad at Valve for delaying a date to upload files on their harddrive that they can not do anything with and will only take up harddrive space for weeks to come?

A big hearty ROTFL! Some people of the Valve community are the true laughing stock of the gaming community (to borrow from iamelephant.)

 

[Parrot of doom]

Really, some people ought to control themselves:

1) Its a game.

2) Valve has been working on it for years.

3) Its a long project to cock up just because of the feelings of some impatient gamers.


You can't actually do anything with the preloaded game. It will perhaps save you an hour or so of time when the game is finally released.

I'd be annoyed if Valve changed its website to 'release date xxxx' and then didn't meet that date, but certainly not about a date that is pretty much meaningless in terms of when I will be able to play the game.

The time between now and the game's eventual release would seem to pass more quickly if you ignored little problems like this delay.

 

[Parrot of doom]

Also, people are complaining about bugs in CS:S.

Has it occured to anybody that these bugs are probably well known, and that valve might be testing a version of the software which offers a 'worst case' scenario?

 

[GorgeousOrifice]

I can promise you that Valve is VERY closely studying bug reports from the CS:S beta. Just think - every bug you find is one less that won't be in HL2.

 

[Aknot]

Really, some people ought to control themselves:

1) Its a game.

I just read this article and have been waiting for a chance to use it.

"It is not just a game. Go Fish is just a game. Hide and Seek is just a game. This is a $45+ piece of software with an extensive development process and a huge marketing budget. They're probably working on an expansion pack and a sequel. Not only that, but I'm really into playing it, so it's, I dont know 25+ hours of my life. (when it comes out)

Sometimes these things aren't just what they are."

"Anyone that tells you 'it's just a game' is an idiot and should be drawn and quartered".
"It's just a little joke, a figure of speech"

From Sept 04 Computer Games Insider Article last page.

 

[Some_God]

I just read this article and have been waiting for a chance to use it.

"It is not just a game. Go Fish is just a game. Hide and Seek is just a game. This is a $45+ piece of software with an extensive development process and a huge marketing budget. They're probably working on an expansion pack and a sequel. Not only that, but I'm really into playing it, so it's, I dont know 25+ hours of my life. (when it comes out)

Sometimes these things aren't just what they are."

"Anyone that tells you 'it's just a game' is an idiot and should be drawn and quartered".
"It's just a little joke, a figure of speech"

From Sept 04 Computer Games Insider Article last page.

j00 got pwned. :rolling:

 

[Tropico]

Ouch you should use that in your sig thats Grrreat!

 

[Aknot]

BTW it was not "really" directed at Parrot (the idiot part) I just found the right time to use the quote....

 

[Some_God]

Me = points finger at Valve and laughs... and hopes they die after they release HL2.

 

[riTuaL]

Gabe said it's ready to be pre-loaded. The traffic that CS:S is bringing to the Steam network is the reason for delay. We have time. Not like they have announced a gold date or release date..

 

[alehm]

Me = points finger at Valve and laughs... and hopes they die after they release HL2.

Wow. Don't worry you'll get your chance to join them in the dirt. :upstare:

 

[Agent.M]

OMG thank you people I feel like I just got some reinforcements in, not to name...names but man some of these people that I was posting with last night are some whiney, pissy, little people that I think just want a reason to be mad, yes Im an getting fed up with the delays as well but dam this is for a pre-load not even the game.....sheeesh, Im gonna go hide in a corner when you people find out that the game it self is gonna be delayed 30 mins longer than expected!

 

[JackKerouac]

I'm fine with the monday delay because presonally i feel a gold announcment coming real soon.

 

[Agent.M]

I'm fine with the monday delay because presonally i feel a gold announcment coming real soon.

Yeah thats part of the reason Im fine with it also cause I seriously believe a gold annoucement is coming very soon.

 

[BlackMesaDude]

I just wanna buy the damn game.

 

[wonkers]

wait wait WAIT a second. IF you cry and whine enough tears Gabe will consume your pathetic soul and get HL2 OUT QUICKER!

THEN bring the tears children.

 

[ValveBULGE]

Kiva128, you've yet again totally missed the point of what he is saying.

Basically it goes something like this

Valve delay half-life 2

Irritated Fan> OMG This the SUXXORS!

Rampant fanboy> STFU you noob Valve owes you nothing

Iamelephant> actually Valve does owe me something, I've technically payed for HL2, so they owe me a copy of it.

Rampant fanboy> No they don't! Bla bla bla bla

Iamelephant> Yes, yes they do, I haven't said they owe me something now, I've only stated numerous times that they do indeed owe me something, which makes your statement 'Valve owes you nothing' wrong. That's what is annoying me, why don't you admit you were wrong?

Rabid fanboy> (with Male cow pat translator on) Okay, I can see now that I am in the wrong, and presumed you were saying something other than the basic premise that you have already bought HL2. However in order not to loose e-face I'm going to trash talk some more in my pro Valve mode!


Really you should just read what he's saying. It doesn't come across as bitching at Valve.

And okay so the preloads not a big deal. CS:S beta comes out but it doesn't work very well, looks like the engine’s really ropey in places, but its not a big deal. Valve misses every deadline they set themselves and its not a big deal.

So what’s the point? Like it's been said the point is they could do with being more realistic with their deadlines.

Point is if you order a taxi, and it turns up over a year late you'd be annoyed. Sure you haven't actually paid the taxi driver anything but you'd still be annoyed.

Much like if you go to a restaurant, order some food. At this point you've not exchanged money, you're not owed anything, but you'd expect to be served and expect to receive a meal. Again if this meal were to be a year late you'd get annoyed.

Neither of these points are particularly relevant to the current situation but then again the majority of the valve owes you nothing arguments have logic flaws as well in several respects which I really can't be bothered.

So to conclude, Sstop bitching, and stop bitching at bitchers, I'm adding another bitch to see how many bitches I can get into a sentence. (It's been a loong day in the lab.)

Well in my case I have the video card which came with half-life 2 so infact they do own me something and that is not only a game but an apology. FOr the same money I could have bought new card and better than the other one. But you know what? I am beyond that and what I am worry about is that there are still some serious problems with CS:S which they said it was worked on for very long time. If CS:S is in this shape I can only imagine what HL2 is, and that does not sounds like will see it this year. Ohh well, I hope I am wrong.

 

[Aknot]

Well in my case I have the video card which came with half-life 2 so infact they do own me something and that is not only a game but an apology. FOr the same money I could have bought new card and better than the other one. But you know what? I am beyond that and what I am worry about is that there are still some serious problems with CS:S which they said it was worked on for very long time. If CS:S is in this shape I can only imagine what HL2 is, and that does not sounds like will see it this year. Ohh well, I hope I am wrong.

hehehehehe thats funny. No you dont. You have a FREE GAME that came with the video card. You knew when you bought that VIDEO CARD that:

1. It came with a FREE game.
2. The Game wasnt out.
3. You cant get said game till its availiable.

So now that leaves you like the rest of us waiting for the game to come out so we can get it.

 

[GorgeousOrifice]

I think an important point that's lost on a number of people is this:

The whole reason for the CS:S beta was to stress test Source and shake out the bugs that only appear under high load in the real world. You can bet that every bug they find and fix thanks to us is going straight into whatever release candidate they have already sent or will soon send to VU.

In other words, the more attention they put on CS:S beta, the faster HL2 ships.

And you're worried about a preload being delayed? The preload isn't going to change. Doesn't matter when it actually starts. Would you rather use Steam to download a gig of useless data now or use Steam to push updates/bug fixes out ASAP in order to get HL2 out the door ASAP?

Oh, and CS:S beta is hardly a so-buggy-it's-unplayable product, it's in better shape than a lot of released games.

 

[FISKER_Q]

I think an important point that's lost on a number of people is this:

The whole reason for the CS:S beta was to stress test Source and shake out the bugs that only appear under high load in the real world. You can bet that every bug they find and fix thanks to us is going straight into whatever release candidate they have already sent or will soon send to VU.

In other words, the more attention they put on CS:S beta, the faster HL2 ships.

And you're worried about a preload being delayed? The preload isn't going to change. Doesn't matter when it actually starts. Would you rather use Steam to download a gig of useless data now or use Steam to push updates/bug fixes out ASAP in order to get HL2 out the door ASAP?

Oh, and CS:S beta is hardly a so-buggy-it's-unplayable product, it's in better shape than a lot of released games.

Well besides for the major flaws that allows you to use debug commands.

However i guess that's the purpose now when it is a beta. Just pretty silly you can play with a crappy wallhack, overbright hack and a wireframed shadow(which is big btw) on it.

Other than that it looks like it's in good shape besides the crashes, and besides the physics for smaller entities.

 

[Some_God]

I hope CS:S dies in hell.... and HL2 comes out... BLAH!

 

[Dr. Freeman]

hmm...so what i posted a few pages back just got overlooked :|
the pple at Valve need to take a page outta ID Software's book.. cut all communitation with media and fans and get the game out ASAP.

 

[Mac]

I'm glad they delayed it, otherwise steam would be a laggy pos and nobody would be able to beta test cs source.

It's merely a compromise.

 

[matthewryanc]

I would assume that Steam has the ability to delete corrupted files, so why not give a few selected people access to the 'preload', and just corrupt the download for a few days on end. They still technically released the preload, yet none of the data is useful. Sounds like a way out to me...

 

[tru]

I think Valve should just stop thinking of the community and quit trying to keep them informed, then no-one would jump on them when they adjust their plans. I would love Valve say nothing at all. Just one day the preload pops out. Surprise. But then I guess some folks would be mad because it was not announced in advance.
Hmmm.

 

[Pitbul]

people saying its "just a game" are "just piles of meat" who are expandable to a local crack head for 20 dollars, a black glove, and a gun with a fully loaded clip... KTHXBYE lolololololozzz

 

[Mr Neutron]

There's little reason to think the pre-load delay means anything for the release date. That's most likely tied entirely to the progress of the CS:S beta. At this stage, only a fraction of the team are really working on the game proper.

 

[wonkers]

...The first victom of war is the truth.

The biggest problem with the internet is honesty. All you can get from these forums is interpretation of what is (((( OFICIALLY REALESED)))))))

other than that. your here to talk to people.