PS3 Still On Track for Spring 2006 Release

[VirusType2]

I can't wait to see how "amazing" these games are in comparison to the 360 considering they will use mostly 1 of the 7 cores for the first couple years. Yeh know, its not smoke, its true, read up.

Ouch do you want to write program code that makes the processor read code from 7 sources simultaneously perfectly syncronized? What a headache. Its not easy and sometimes hard as hell to program with conventional methods that we've been using since computers existed.


and 7 cores is not greater than 3 cores.

its 7 =%100 of PS3 power

and

360 is 3 = 100%

So the games for the PS3 system will be using about 14% of its maximum processing output using 1 core

while 360 is using 33% of its maximum processing output using 1 core.


This is just a simple estimate so take what you want from it

Read up on some credible computer geek sites and you will see them going ape-shit over the 360 and merely stating that the PS3 sounds powerful.

 

[OCybrManO]

I can't wait to see how "amazing" these games are in comparison to the 360 considering they will use mostly 1 of the 7 cores for the first couple years. Yeh know, its not smoke, its true, read up.

Ouch do you want to write program code that makes the processor read code from 7 sources simultaneously perfectly syncronized? What a headache. Its not easy and sometimes hard as hell to program with conventional methods that we've been using since computers existed.


and 7 cores is not greater than 3 cores.

its 7 =%100 of PS3 power

and

360 is 3 = 100%

So the games for the PS3 system will be using about 14% of its maximum processing output using 1 core

while 360 is using 33% of its maximum processing output using 1 core.


This is just a simple estimate so take what you want from it

Read up on some credible computer geek sites and you will see them going ape-shit over the 360 and merely stating that the PS3 sounds powerful.

The 360 uses 3 cores with two threads per core. So, that means the 360's power is spread across 6 threads. Huge difference, eh?

Maybe you need to do the reading...

EDIT: Plus, a core on the 360 and a PPE/SPE on the PS3 aren't the same thing. I'll explain more later...

 

[VictimOfScience]

Exactly. Sony sells hype.

Riiiight. And Microsoft doesn't. Everyone sells hype--that's what a good marketing department does.

You can't imagine anyone getting a 360 first? To me its the best option out of all them. It has the ultimate in online capability. ( i can't wait to play in the arcade) On par with the playstation 3 in terms of graphics.

I just think it is ridiculous to run out and get the hot new thing when the competition hasn't released their unit yet. Its just plain foolish.

its going to have many more games and exclusive titles. (sony puts out a handful of Sony made games the entire lifetime of their system)

Where in the world do you get this from??? You must be one heck of an industry insider to be able to let us all in on this bit of knowledge. Thanks!

Plus, I don't really like games like metal gear. I'd rather play a system that is supported by ID, Valve, and Microsoft, and software companies not likely to touch the PS3. And not just becuase its hard as shit to program for.

Big deal--that's your preference. And its not exactly as if the 360 is a breeze to code for....

And this time around with the 360 having the jump, it will be the sweet games like Grand Theft auto that come to the 360 first, and the PS3 *might* get a release later.

Again, you must get your facts straight before throwing them up in a lengthy and insane Sony-bashing post. I would be very surprised if GTA comes to 360 first, as would most people on this planet.

And what makes you say this "list" looks better than anything on the 360 so far.

Um, because the only games that I have heard of for the 360 that even remotely interest me are Mass Effect, Gears of War, and Frame City Killer. Not enough to buy a system for IMHO.

quote: "A list of titles that amazing"
I laugh at you. While games are a matter of preference, Have you even seen or heard anything other than the names listed there aside from the sony titles?

Yeah, actually, there are many screenshots and videos of these games that make me much more excited than any 360 title that I have heard of.

At least you would be smart enough not to say anything about better graphics, considering you still tout your PS2 like it was born of your own flesh and blood, as having graphics preferable to the 360.

Buddy, as much as you hate the PS2, there are millions and millions of people who think it is the best thing out there right now and I would argue that they are correct. The games that have released for the PS2 in the past year or so are some of the best games ever released for a console. Sure, 360 games have great graphics but they don't do anything that tons of games haven't done in the past in terms of offering new gameplay dynamics. I am just not interested in the 360 titles thus far, thats all. No need to get your panties in a bunch, mkay?

 

[JNightshade]

You both suck. Gamecube and Revolution FTW.

 

[VirusType2]

I am just not interested in the 360 titles thus far, thats all. No need to get your panties in a bunch, mkay?

The only one wearing panties is your PS2. K PAL?

Riiiight. And Microsoft doesn't. Everyone sells hype--that's what a good marketing department does.

I don't think so. Sony sells hype. just sony. Mkay? its magic gaming processors that suck ass once you get them home.

I just think it is ridiculous to run out and get the hot new thing when the competition hasn't released their unit yet. Its just plain foolish.

But instead you would put all your money on a system that doesn't even exist. Its a dream. Like I said the 360 is here now. And its overall a much better system and includes an ingenious interface for interacting with ****ers like me. sure its easy to love a fantasy system that has powers unknown. Like being married... you got the perfect girl at home, yet its just not good enough becuase people want what they don't have and don't appreciate what they've got.

Anyway, I'm convinced you will play your PS2 forever so it doesn't matter what the PS3 does or doesn't do.

Where in the world do you get this from??? You must be one heck of an industry insider to be able to let us all in on this bit of knowledge. Thanks!

Well it comes from years of being a video game fan. np.

Big deal--that's your preference. And its not exactly as if the 360 is a breeze to code for....

Reportedly it is going to be much easier. Especially how programmers are reporting that they are getting major assistance from MS to make their games top notch. I just remember some of the first PS2 games were soooo horrible. The ones sony made were the only ones that were any good at all, even if they were missing some huge features like online capability and content.

Again, you must get your facts straight before throwing them up in a lengthy and insane Sony-bashing post. I would be very surprised if GTA comes to 360 first, as would most people on this planet.

Well, you know, i don't always have every ****ing fact right but at least i don't contradict what I preach. All points bulletin (APB) is in the works for 360. Its an ONLINE GTA type game. So, whatever. The world will not wait for Rockstars.

Um, because the only games that I have heard of for the 360 that even remotely interest me are Mass Effect, Gears of War, and Frame City Killer. Not enough to buy a system for IMHO.

Oh, but 1 game is enough to buy a game system if its made by Sony?
I don't even want to hear your response to this, becuase likely you have already prepared on your quick repor, even though if those 360 games that interested you were for a Sony system you would have your dick in your playstation by now

Yeah, actually, there are many screenshots and videos of these games that make me much more excited than any 360 title that I have heard of.

The only thing that gets you excited is playstations. Sick! Why don't you UHHH post a link dude! All of us Sony haters don't think you can produce anything worth watching that is of any more interest than the slew of hot 360 game videos out. Stop hand-cuffing sony and share some hot pix flesh tones are best Victimofscience. Fleshtones.

Buddy, as much as you hate the PS2, there are millions and millions of people who think it is the best thing out there right now and I would argue that they are correct.

OK to set it straight. I don't hate PS2 in particular. I hate Sony. They make shitty everything. if you are going to pay top dollar for an electronics item, i would urge you do not buy things becuase it has a major brand label on it. Do you go to the Mall and pay quadruple for your clothing becuase its a name brand?

The games that have released for the PS2 in the past year or so are some of the best games ever released for a console.

Don't kid yourself. Best games ever released for a console.. like what??? Resident evil 4? a toned down version of the exclusive game cube game? What else huh? what cha got cuz i don't know, i stoped paying attention years ago.

i mean maybe since games for the SNES don't count as best games ever becuase it didn't have 3D graphics? Im sorry but the best console games I ever played were mostly for the SNES.

Sure, 360 games have great graphics but they don't do anything that tons of games haven't done in the past in terms of offering new gameplay dynamics.

So how is the PS3 going to offer new gameplay mechanics? I got to hear this! :|

My post might have been lenghty but I quoted 6 people where you quoted me 6 times. So who's panties are in a bunch? :dork:

You know, you take the time to bash Microsoft in a PS3 thread, so I'll counter with a PS3 bash in a PS3 thread./ Fair is fair.

Oh, well, If you can't beat them join them. Fight fire with fire. I could have sworn someone was filled with fury That puts a smile on my face to know of your discomfort my friend.

 

[Direwolf]

Well that post just killed any sympathy I had for Virus.
(Hint: sophmoric sexual innuendo isn't a debate tactic)

 

[Icarusintel]

VirusType2 - the only console that is actually innovating at all with gameplay mechanics is the Revolution, and I give them props for it and hope it works out well, but I haven;t seen anything comparable to a Metal Gear Solid gameplay and storywise being shown on the X360, in fact, the only game that has shown me any promise on the X360 is Gears of War, which actually has me very excited and almost makes me want to buy an X360 merely to play that game

on the other hand, I tend to prefer games with a good story that actually make you think a little bit, while Halo is all great and good for getting to hang out with your buds, it's certainly not making me solve any problems, like MGS or Shadow of the Collosus or Ico, or even Katamari Damacy

I'm just trying to point out that not many of the titles for X360 that have been announced go far beyond generic titles, with generic FPSs, racing games, sports games, etc. Sure there are a couple new and interesting properties, GoW being one of them, but they're so few and far between that I can;t really get interested, besides, I'd rather give the PS3 a chance to prove itself before deciding on a console, so I can make more of an informed decision, rather than just running out and buying the latest, greatest thing just so I can have it to show off

 

[Absinthe]

I'd rather give the PS3 a chance to prove itself before deciding on a console, so I can make more of an informed decision, rather than just running out and buying the latest, greatest thing just so I can have it to show off

Then that would throw out any possibility of a preorder.

This ****ed up notion that it's okay to shit on the 360 for less than than stellar launch and then PREORDER and fellate the PS3 (a console that has proven itself in no way thus far) is bullshit.

 

[Jammydodger]

Not for me thanks,I think I'll get a 360 some time next year.

 

[VirusType2]

Well that post just killed any sympathy I had for Virus.
(Hint: sophmoric sexual innuendo isn't a debate tactic)

Im sorry everyone. im just playing. Come on give me a break, ive been awake for ... i don't know 48 hours

If you know me at all ive had my dreams of playing GTA type games online, so I heavily support xbox live. I've had more fun on 1 xbox game than i had on any other system. The game was Capcom Vs. SNK 2 (streetfighter meets the SNK) there is nothing like playing against the best fighters in the world. I could hardly ever get some competition at the arcade when I was growing up. You don't have to voice chat with anyone, but who knows what they can do with the 360 .. while waiting for a match you can video chat and stuff, friends can send you video or voice messages!

I mean this is not new to PC users, but who uses this?? You have no one to talk to nerd.

but they are putting it in a package out of the box that is good to go, mom can use it, and grandad, and you can talk with people in different countries via video chat and it doesn't cost a red cent. yea you pay the yearly bill, but lets face it, this is just cool. I'd like to speak with my girlfriend in Puerto Rico and let her show me some skin while i chat, while i play the little classic arcade games in the backround. :smoking:



Those are my kind of games to look forward to.

 

[Cole]

Don't kid yourself. Best games ever released for a console.. like what??? Resident evil 4? a toned down version of the exclusive game cube game? What else huh? what cha got cuz i don't know, i stoped paying attention years ago.

i mean maybe since games for the SNES don't count as best games ever becuase it didn't have 3D graphics? Im sorry but the best console games I ever played were mostly for the SNES.

What the hell?
First you say "Resident Evil 4 Ps2 is a toned down version of the gamecube version".....but it's the same gameplay worse graphics but will still give the same satisifcation.
Then you go on to say that SNES had some of the best games, and you completely ignore graphics.

I mean this is not new to PC users, but who uses this?? You have no one to talk to nerd.

For chating you have Teamspeak and Ventrilo...perfect programs.. Who the hell cares about seeing someone else just a waste of bandwidth to see someone half way across the globe and realize there a damn little fat kid who drools and spouts off saying that hes 18 and can kick everyones ass...

About online play..
?? What do you mean? Besides the 200,000 average users on Battle.net you mean? Or the 4.5 million people who subscribe to WoW, the 100 - 150k average on steam games... and those are what 3 services(Battle.net and WoW are different).

I would rather not know if my opponent is some raging 15 year old, an 8 year old or some 35 year old living with his parents.

 

[VirusType2]

What the hell?
First you say "Resident Evil 4 Ps2 is a toned down version of the gamecube version".....but it's the same gameplay worse graphics but will still give the same satisifcation.

Becuase he was pointing it out as a PS2 game, when actually it came out for the gamecube quite a long time before, and it was superior on the gamecube. So "why point it out as a PS2 bonus", is my point.


we were talking about PS3 and why there is no reason to buy one any time in these next couple of years.

So now you are comparing the 360 to the PC?

So now we can go over why a 360 is a better game system than a PC again?

I have no more input on any of these topics we've all been over it off topic in every single 360 thread that was turned into a warzone.

nothing more to say. You know how I feel

Honestly, if a cutting edge game PC was $300 . ... .. ... i say no more

 

[dream431ca]

what the hell? we were talking about PS3 and why there is no reason to buy one any time in these next couple of years.

So now you are comparing the 360 to the PC?

So now we can go over why a 360 is a better game system than a PC again?

I have no more input on any of these topics we've all been over it off topic in every single 360 thread that was turned into a warzone.

nothing more to say. You know how I feel

Honestly, if a cutting edge game PC was $300 ... i say no more

Your very ever popular X360 has one game going for it...HALO 3!! What does the PS3 have going for it??

Metal gear solid 4
GT5
Final Fantasy
Remake of Final Fantasy 7 (Which I predict will beat Halo 2 on the sales)
Devil may cry 4

And those are on LAUNCH date!! (Except FF7 remake)

Plus..the PS3 will beable to play ALL!! PS2 games and PS1 games. (and I'm also expecting the multiplayer to be free as it was on PS2 with the exception of FF11)

The one game that the X360 has it going for is Halo 3..that is the game that should sell the system. The PS3 has a lot more going for it.

AND GET THIS!! THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE ENOUGH PS3's AT LAUNCH!!!

EDIT: Oh ya forgot one thing. The PS3 will beable to do 1080P!! X360 only goes up to 1080i!! You talk about good graphics, the PS3 is going to beat the X360 in EVERYTHING!!!!! Including graphics and games, and probably everything else. Better start saving now.

 

[OCybrManO]

Here's that article about how the Cell architecture works.

 

[Absinthe]

You talk about good graphics, the PS3 is going to beat the X360 in EVERYTHING!!!!! Including graphics and games, and probably everything else. Better start saving now.

You would kind of expect that since they've had more time and are releasing later. DUHHHHHHHH
(Came really close to flaming the shit out of you)

Of course, there's one thing that the PS3 does not have going for it, and that is polished system for online console gaming that connects the 360 community to each other; something I find far more beneficial and worthy of praise than the PS3's expected numerical increase.

 

[dream431ca]

You would kind of expect that since they've had more time and are releasing later, you jackassed moron.

Well it is. Sony knows what their doing. I'm really sick of people saying the X360 is the best system...maybe for graphics..until PS3 that is.

You would kind of expect that since they've had more time and are releasing later. DUHHHHHHHH
(Came really close to flaming the shit out of you)

WHY DIDN'T YOU!!?? it would be fun to read! when people get angry they say stupid things...that always amuses me.

 

[The Mullinator]

All I can say is that I suspect if Sony does release the PS3 in the spring then it will be a business decision so they can start getting Blue-Ray players out there, Sony desperately needs people to adopt Blue-Ray and releasing the PS3 in the fall would be a huge benefit for HD-DVD.

The result of this would be that the gaming side of the PS3 might be somewhat incomplete. I don't like Sony as a company but at the same time I don't want to see a decent console suffer because of a business decision to get it out early so it can act as something more of a media player than a game player.

I mean even people from EA have been quoted as saying they don't think the PS3 could release in the spring.

 

[Absinthe]

Sony knows that it's going to sell like hotcakes no matter what they put out. That doesn't demonstrate any kind of knowledge or intelligence of worth.

Same goes for the 360. The difference is that while the PS3 may have slightly better visuals - and let's be honest here. That will be the case 85% of the time - the 360 is making strides in the online aspect.

It may not be a revolution, but it's something console gaming certainly needs.

 

[Direwolf]

Just Halo 3 though? I'm not even looking to get a 360 for a while, if ever, but theres some cool stuff coming, such as:
Unreal 2007
Too Human
Gears of War
Alone in the Dark
Mass Effect
etc

 

[The Mullinator]

Sony knows that it's going to sell like hotcakes no matter what they put out. That doesn't demonstrate any kind of knowledge or intelligence of worth.

Same goes for the 360. The difference is that while the PS3 may have slightly better visuals - and let's be honest here. That will be the case 85% of the time - the 360 is making strides in the online aspect.

It may not be a revolution, but it's something console gaming certainly needs.

It will sell like hotcakes either way, but I know for me when I buy a console I intend for it to be a gaming system first and foremost. I also then want the company who made it to consider it also as a game console first. The fact is when that doesn't happen we can still get something amazing but it won't be as good as it could have been.

 

[Absinthe]

Mass Effect

Mmmmm.......

 

[Direwolf]

It will sell like hotcakes either way, but I know for me when I buy a console I intend for it to be a gaming system first and foremost. I also then want the company who made it to consider it also as a game console first. The fact is when that doesn't happen we can still get something amazing but it won't be as good as it could have been.

I think it will be as good as it could be, but it just might be more expensive.

 

[dream431ca]

Just Halo 3 though? I'm not even looking to get a 360 for a while, if ever, but theres some cool stuff coming, such as:
Unreal 2007
Too Human
Gears of War
Alone in the Dark
Mass Effect
etc

Ya..your right...but Halo 3 will definiatly sell the system.

I am looking forward to Full auto for the X360. I love chaotic games!! One of my favorite features for the game will be an instant replay (12 seconds) that you can press anytime during the game and either watch it from the cameras on the track or pause the replay, pan around the car and zoom in and watch in slow motion the chaos going on around you!! It's Awesome!! Also the game is around 25 hours long. You gotta see some videos for it! The physics, the madness, the people flying out of cars, the explosions, the buildings crashihg down, the crazy sound, it's very impressive or....just go here:

http://www.segalabs.com/

 

[The Mullinator]

I think it will be as good as it could be, but it just might be more expensive.

Even if it is released 5 months early? That is my problem here. It won't cost anymore it would simply have buggy and inefficiently run hardware combined with launch titles that would also be very buggy an incomplete. People are complaining about how the 360 launched too early, fact is this would be far worse.

This of course is assuming I am correct and the Playstation 3 the gaming platform won't be ready until the fall but Sony will still release it early so that Playstation 3 the media center will do well.

 

[Direwolf]

Oh yeah, launching early would definitely be a mistake. Fortunately, with a spring release theres not much pressure. They don't have to rush for the holiday season or anything.

I was just referring to the idea of it not being a "pure" gaming machine.

 

[Warbie]

Your very ever popular X360 has one game going for it...HALO 3!! What does the PS3 have going for it??

Metal gear solid 4
GT5
Final Fantasy
Remake of Final Fantasy 7 (Which I predict will beat Halo 2 on the sales)
Devil may cry 4

And those are on LAUNCH date!! (Except FF7 remake)

Plus..the PS3 will beable to play ALL!! PS2 games and PS1 games. (and I'm also expecting the multiplayer to be free as it was on PS2 with the exception of FF11)

The one game that the X360 has it going for is Halo 3..that is the game that should sell the system. The PS3 has a lot more going for it.

AND GET THIS!! THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE ENOUGH PS3's AT LAUNCH!!!

EDIT: Oh ya forgot one thing. The PS3 will beable to do 1080P!! X360 only goes up to 1080i!! You talk about good graphics, the PS3 is going to beat the X360 in EVERYTHING!!!!! Including graphics and games, and probably everything else. Better start saving now.

Where to start?

The 360 has alot more going for it than Halo 3.

I'm a big fan of Xbox Live, you may not be, but many are. I can play PDZ in co-op with my friends - which is fantastic. We're also playing Smash TV co-op online, which we downloaded from the Xbox Live market place. Again, this is great fun. Infact all the launch games that support online play are great fun. There's also demos to download (no more buying crappy official magasines for the DVD) All in all, Live is a great service. This is the 360s biggest strength, it offers console gaming online.

Oblivion. Sure, it's coming out on the pc, but one of the reasons I have a 360 is to play it in all its glory (something my x800 xtpe would melt even thinking about) on a big screen while chilling on the sofa. It was either spend £700 on graphics cards or £300 on a 360. Not a hard decision. The 360 offers superb value for money, especially when compared to the price of pc components, and is well worth considering as an alternative to anyone who is considering an upgrade.

Mass Effect. I'm a huuuuge Bioware fan, and this game sounds very good. I'm anticipating it easily as much as any in the list you made.

There are various other games that look promising, even at this early stage - Alan Wake, Gears of War etc. A new Ninja Gaiden and PES are also promised and, correct me if i'm wrong, isn't Final Fantasy now coming out on the 360?

Halo 3 is just one of the many reasons to buy a 360.


As for the quality of graphics, that's something none of us can predict just yet. I do know that i'm playing the 360 right now - and it looks amazing. It's unlikely that there will be a big difference in terms visuals between the two consoles and, as always, it'll be the games that make the difference. I'm getting both anyway, so couldn't be happier

 

[Moto]

Where's the game.

I could probably create the most elaborate physics puzzle tech demo in Source, but it becomes an entirely different issue when you try to wrap a game around it. Dedicating all your resources to singular demonstrations shows NOTHING, and you are a sheep for buying into it. A trendy little sheep who has been suckered in by Sony's brand of bullshit.

You people are double-standard shits. It's apparently brainless to preorder a 360, but it's okey-okey and god damn awesometastic to preorder a PS3. Why? "OMG THSE TITELS LOOK SWEET MANG" and "OMG TAHT WATR DEMO WAS KEWLIES". Just shut the **** up and spare my eyes from your putrid bile henceforth.

There there... don't worry. Your Xbox will do just fine.

 

[dream431ca]

Where to start?

The 360 has alot more going for it than Halo 3.

I'm a big fan of Xbox Live, you may not be, but many are. I can play PDZ in co-op with my friends - which is fantastic. We're also playing Smash TV co-op online, which we downloaded from the Xbox Live market place. Again, this is great fun. Infact all the launch games that support online play are great fun. There's also demos to download (no more buying crappy official magasines for the DVD) All in all, Live is a great service. This is the 360s biggest strength, it offers console gaming online.

Oblivion. Sure, it's coming out on the pc, but one of the reasons I have a 360 is to play it in all its glory (something my x800 xtpe would melt even thinking about) on a big screen while chilling on the sofa. It was either spend £700 on graphics cards or £300 on a 360. Not a hard decision. The 360 offers superb value for money, especially when compared to the price of pc components, and is well worth considering as an alternative to anyone who is considering an upgrade.

Mass Effect. I'm a huuuuge Bioware fan, and this game sounds very good. I'm anticipating it easily as much as any in the list you made.

There are various other games that look promising, even at this early stage - Alan Wake, Gears of War etc. A new Ninja Gaiden and PES are also promised and, correct me if i'm wrong, isn't Final Fantasy now coming out on the 360?

Halo 3 is just one of the many reasons to buy a 360.


As for the quality of graphics, that's something none of us can predict just yet. I do know that i'm playing the 360 right now - and it looks amazing. It's unlikely that there will be a big difference in terms visuals between the two consoles and, as always, it'll be the games that make the difference. I'm getting both anyway, so couldn't be happier

I know..I was just tired of people treating the X360 like a god. Besides I can't wait for full auto

 

[VirusType2]

Your very ever popular X360 has one game going for it...HALO 3!! What does the PS3 have going for it??

Metal gear solid 4
GT5
Final Fantasy
Remake of Final Fantasy 7 (Which I predict will beat Halo 2 on the sales)
Devil may cry 4

And those are on LAUNCH date!! (Except FF7 remake)

Plus..the PS3 will beable to play ALL!! PS2 games and PS1 games. (and I'm also expecting the multiplayer to be free as it was on PS2 with the exception of FF11)

The one game that the X360 has it going for is Halo 3..that is the game that should sell the system. The PS3 has a lot more going for it.

AND GET THIS!! THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE ENOUGH PS3's AT LAUNCH!!!

EDIT: Oh ya forgot one thing. The PS3 will beable to do 1080P!! X360 only goes up to 1080i!! You talk about good graphics, the PS3 is going to beat the X360 in EVERYTHING!!!!! Including graphics and games, and probably everything else. Better start saving now.

I find it ironic that you say "better start saving now". That could be Sony's new slogan. " PS3. "better start saving now" ROFLMFAO

I just don't agree with any of that. Saying that all the xbox has is halo 3 is clearly close-minded. I'd like to have nearly every game released for it, honestly though. LIke say.. 9 games. And since when are games rated at 8, 8.5's 9's, 9.5.s and 10's are not worthy of buying anymore? not worth mentioning? Games don't get any better than that. Its a perfect score or nearly so There will always be something more you want! Realize this and you will be alot more informed.

So lets get back to the scores of 360 games. How many games have you bought that were less than those scores? How many PC games do you regularly play that have lesser scores?

don't answer that becuase I know the answer.
.....................

PS3 will not play EVERY ps1 and 2 game, there are going to be some that won't work. At least thats what i have read.

Besides is that why you want a PS3??? to play PS1 games? *chime in !!! just for FF7!!!!* lol No but seriously? its great to have but how much you will use backward compatability? why even mention this anymore? x360 is doing the same things except its a locked-in fact that the games will see an improvement in graphics. Its not some rumor floating around becuase people wish it.

Metal Gear Solid? well. ok. I don't like these games. they are not my type of game at all. Sneaking around and hiding is not my idea of a fun role to play in a game. This game would be cool to play though, just to check out the graphics. I'd rather watch a friend play, then go home and play games i like.

Devil may cry 1 was cool, but lets face facts. it wasn't that great, it was just a quality capcom game where they tried to do a spin-off of resident evil and it was amusing for a run. DMC 1 was a great rental., DMC 2 was well below expectations and im sorry i wasn't listening anymore.

Gran Tourismo 5? I loved GT1. They had my car in the game! I was winning any front wheel drive races with it.. 3rd most influencial console game ever - to me. GT2 was like, hmm this doesn't really seem all that fun anymore. I'm pretty disapointed but, hell, there was fun to be had for real. I was dying for something else to do in GT1.

GT3 = WTF these are the same sound effects? many less cars? less tracks? Wait the rally mode was a great addition!
hmm
Wait why did i spend like $500 to buy this PS2 just to drive my car, play this game and they couldn't even be bothered to include one of the most popular tuner cars ever made -in a car tuner game?
.. my car? .. A turbo charged Mitsubishi Eclipse :frown: This pissed me off like I can't describe. And still these games just don't seem to be very fun anymore

GT4 = well, the hype is huge, and they are pulling out all the stops. SURELY this time they will include my car ! .. Wow, these graphics are pretty good on the newer levels, since i have my PS2 hooked up to S-video.. WTF these are the same sounds effects they've been using since GT1 3000 years ago? Just shoot me. God this driving has gotten stale. This game has gotten so boring. Its the same game dressed up in better graphics.

They can't be bothered to improve the driving anymore. ITs just boring as hell now.

It hasn't evolved one bit. nope didn't include my car. it was a GTX turbo all wheel drive Mitsubishi Eclipse. a totally different beast than a front wheel drive, and totally out-classed by cars like skyline and subaru in all wheel drive classes.

****ing bastards, even games like Need for speed underground had my car, and they only had less than 20 cars to choose.

What so now the rally mode is ruined!? WTF did they do to it. /cry All they had to do was make the rally jumps more realistic looking from GT3. Instead they completely re-did everything in the rally mode and it was torture to play.

Its actually steps backward IMO

I have all but given up on you GT. In fact I have given up. I can just picture GT 3 with high rez graphics and I don't even want to play. You just can't live up to the innovation of GT1.


Everyone that said FF7 was so great but I could not get into it.

After the first little area after the train station i realized how horrible the camera and controlls and animation and models and stills were.

I ****ing hated this game and i was a HUGE FF fan from Super nintendo. which had little midget characters but.. well i don't know.

Im honesly happy for you fans that you guys and gals are getting your game you want so desperately. But I couldn't give a shit

FF7 made me fall asleep nearly immediately after turning on the power. Everytime like wtf.

I won't go as far as to say it was a bad game, but I did not like it whatsoever. Turn based RPG's .. I think they should drop this idea. I mean yea with a million dollar budget you can make a great game out of one. I loved FFX, despite many things i hated about it, but... RPG's They played like that (turn based) becuase graphics couldn't do anymore at the time RPG's were invented. Evolve plz kthx. I don't know man. I take that back. I guess it's like a card game or chess game. Whatever.

Basically, I hope they can change GT5 around. I mean everyone knows it will be a good game. But will it blow my ****ing mind?! Taking how long it took for them to release GT4 (4 years after GT3?) They likely won't release GT6 for a million years later so I'd hate for GT 5 to be incomplete. Something that Xbox has taken care of with Xbox live more tracks and cars! yea pay 5 dollars for more trakcs and cars of your favorite game? deal!

Anyway other than GT5 which should be good, what about killzone. Is this game good? any pictures?

 

[Absinthe]

There there... don't worry. Your Xbox will do just fine.

I don't even have one. Nor do I feel much urge to purchase one.

 

[Direwolf]

I'm confused by the Gran Tourismo comments. GT4 was both insulted and lauded for making very large changes to the driving from GT3. Saying they don't bother to even update the driving anymore is just bizarre.

 

[VirusType2]

I'm confused by the Gran Tourismo comments. GT4 was both insulted and lauded for making very large changes to the driving from GT3. Saying they don't bother to even update the driving anymore is just bizarre.

Well. Yea, they "updated the driving" by ruining the Rally mode.

They made one of the most successful driving games ever and figured it didn't need any work. Its the same graphics engine from GT1 on the Playstation 1. lol

The AI appears to be the same from GT1. Cars just run right over you. The've lost some important camera views since GT1, The Sound is the same, the tires squeeling is exactly the same, everything is the same its just a higher resolution then it was on the PS1. Hell its even got the Same menu beeps from GT1. That meaks me ill :bonce: Do they think becuase GT1 was such a sucess that re-releasing the game with improved graphics every few years is good enough? They don't need to change anything else? I beg to differ.

I keep pre-ordering the GT games and they continue to disapoint me. GT was one of my top 5 favorite games EVER. How could they **** that up?! It's to the point I can't stand to even look at this game series.

The cars will never take damage becuase supposedly car manufacturers don't like their cars getting smashed up on screen. Well ok, if you say so, but I see it all the time in movies and In Codemaster's games like Colin McRae rally and their Race Driver and Touring Car series. So what gives?

it uses the same sound effects from GT1. I don't even think they touched them. They were good on GT1 but Im sorry, hundreds cars with only a few sound variations, thats just unaceptable.

GT5 will be a big improvement in some areas, but a huge disapointment in most areas. So I give up. I can't stand the GT series anymore.

 

[Cole]

So now you are comparing the 360 to the PC?

Because you had brought it up in your post..
"while waiting for a match you can video chat and stuff, friends can send you video or voice messages!

I mean this is not new to PC users, but who uses this?? You have no one to talk to nerd."
I then just continued it to cover online completely so everything stood on solid ground.

PS3 will not play EVERY ps1 and 2 game, there are going to be some that won't work. At least thats what i have read.

What you have read and what Sony said seem to contradict eachother. It's not that hard to emulate a game when you have all the background information and can't infringe on patents. Even with not knowing all the background information on how everythings done and patents Pc users can still get by with emulation.

Besides is that why you want a PS3??? to play PS1 games? *chime in !!! just for FF7!!!!* lol No but seriously? its great to have but how much you will use backward compatability? why even mention this anymore? x360 is doing the same things except its a locked-in fact that the games will see an improvement in graphics. Its not some rumor floating around becuase people wish it.

Why wouldn't their be an increase in graphics? All 360 does is higher resolution and AA. Why wouldn't the Ps3 be able to do that? It's not that friggen hard considering how fast both are.. And you would buy a PS3 for PS 3 GAMES? Same for the 360...


So you didn't like some of the Ps2 and Ps1 games, thats nice. There are millions who do. You do act like Microsoft is god, and that the 360 will be able to pull off much better graphics with ease and the only reason why you should buy the consoles is because of graphics.(You stated this.)
Right now you are cursing the Ps3 and saying that the 360 has such better games, but why are you comparing? How can you compare to the Ps3 when IT ISN'T EVEN OUT. You don't know how good or bad the games are gonna be.
Hell the last generation if you go by how many home consoles were sold, who won? SONY by a VERY LARGE MARGIN.
Not just because they got a head start, but even on weekly sales they were beating them.


Just a little tidbit of information, not targeted at anyone, but it's about Nintendo's Controller:
quoted from Odium @ Q2 evolved
"Sony laughed at it IN PUBLIC, saying how old it was, how its rubbish because it cant do 90 jigawhats, and because it will have plumbers for its stars. They called it a failure because of its pad being DIFFERENT (lol, Sony cant exactly joke about shit pads... DEAD ZONE MOTHER ****ERS?). What did Microsoft do? They clapped Nintendo. They said "**** guys, that looks pretty cool, your doing something different and we like it! GG!". Thats why you see DS games with "microsoft" on the back, and you dont see a 70 year old solid snake in ANOTHER metal gear on the DS."

 

[Direwolf]

I should point out that I actually own GT4. The changes they made to how the cars drive (particularly in the areas of how the body shifts as you steer and brake) were very major. I had to pretty much learn to drive many of my favorite cars again. Its still not my favorite driving game, but to say it hasn't changed just seems silly.

 

[VictimOfScience]

I have no more input on any of these topics we've all been over it off topic in every single 360 thread that was turned into a warzone.

nothing more to say. You know how I feel

So please stop your lunatic ravings.

Honestly, there's no winning with this guy--everything Sony is crap and that's it as far as he's concerned. Its an utter waste of time trying to argue otherwise with him. He single-handedly has the ability to make the Gamespot forums look sensible!!! Incredible!!! :thumbs:

 

[VirusType2]

What you have read and what Sony said seem to contradict eachother. It's not that hard to emulate a game when you have all the background information and can't infringe on patents. Even with not knowing all the background information on how everythings done and patents Pc users can still get by with emulation.

I thought Sony was the one who confirmed that there would be a few exceptions. I don't know maybe those dance games or something. Ones like that. It must be true if I read it on the internet

Why wouldn't their be an increase in graphics? All 360 does is higher resolution and AA. Why wouldn't the Ps3 be able to do that? It's not that friggen hard considering how fast both are.. And you would buy a PS3 for PS 3 GAMES? Same for the 360...

I didn't even say there couldn't be. I said that the PS2 did NOT increase the graphics what-so-ever in past threads, and In this thread ( i think ) i said that it hasn't been confirmed if there will be any advantage so I was asking him to stop stating that it will as a fact. also i said Why even mention it as a bonus if the other systems can do it also and also becuase it hasn't been proven yet.

So you didn't like some of the Ps2 and Ps1 games, thats nice. There are millions who do. You do act like Microsoft is god, and that the 360 will be able to pull off much better graphics with ease

Well i truly believe the graphics will be better in most cases. I never said they would be much better. I said that they would be better. if not simply for the fact that it will have been out longer.

. and the only reason why you should buy the consoles is because of graphics.(You stated this.)

NO. Even your signature would say otherwise. I don't even remember what the kid was asking about but I was trying to help. He was wondering why to get a next gen console i think. And i said well, they have better graphics! DUH. (or at least thats what I meant by it) (look at your signature for the exact quote becuase its written right there in front of you on your signature and you still deliberately misquoted me, on top of the fact that you took that sentance out of context. And on top of all that... who cares?

And thats pefectly fine if you wan't to take 1 sentence I wrote and turn it into my policy by putting it in your signature. I just think that shows how easy it is to be misunderstood when you argue with text.

I don't think Microsoft is a god, I just like their game systems the best becuase they have continued to deliver and have the games that I like to play. Their systems have the powerful features that matter to me. I still am happy with and impressed by my Xbox. Granted it came out later. yes. thats right. but PS3 will come out later and I don't think it will have better graphics than the 360. Im sure that some games will be better on some systems.

Regardless. Its a playstation. its going to be successful. Im not going to stand in any one's way to go buy one. Thats rediculous. But anytime someone says Xbox360 isn't good im going to tell them why I think its actually the best one. It annoys me that some people act like they wouldn't want one if it was given to them also. That just makes me wonder what the hell you are doing in a video game forum.

Right now you are cursing the Ps3 and saying that the 360 has such better games, but why are you comparing? How can you compare to the Ps3 when IT ISN'T EVEN OUT. You don't know how good or bad the games are gonna be.

I was replying to an ignorant post that said all 360 has is halo 3, and that That is ****ing rediculous considering 8/10 of its games score 8-10 on release day.

And then he went on to say that Sony has many killer apps coming, and I don't see anything of a must buy interest. Yes I'm sure there will be some quality games, i even agreed. I just explained how those games aren't must have games to me and might not even be worth buying. especially at $60 or whatever they cost.. rumored to be $70)

I elaborated on the fact where I used to be Sony's biggest fan on PS1 with GT1, and how they screwed up my trust by releasing new versions of GT that were a waste of money and a huge disapointment for how much I paid to buy the system that can play them. They still didn't have any kind of online content. Sega Dreamcast even let me race online! I don't want to race a bunch of computer controlled cars that suck. That sucks.

Hell the last generation if you go by how many home consoles were sold, who won? SONY by a VERY LARGE MARGIN.
Not just because they got a head start, but even on weekly sales they were beating them.

Also becuase Sony consoles seem to require expensive repairs all the time, which is half the reason they sold so many units. I went through a dozen of them! It's been a long time so its hard to remember but i think I had like 4 PS1s and 5 PS2s and my brother had a few stop reading discs also.

There was even a lawsuit where Sony lost, and everyone with the f'd up PS2's that have disc read errors was supposed to receive compensation but its impossible to prove its not the owners fault, so Sony weasled out of this denying that anything was wrong. Look it up on the internet.

I had to take mine apart every third week to tamper with it untill it would read the disc. Now are you starting to understand my distrust and anger towards Sony?

Then don't forget sony's malicious spyware coded onto their music CD's

Just a little tidbit of information, not targeted at anyone, but it's about Nintendo's Controller:
quoted from Odium @ Q2 evolved
"Sony laughed at it IN PUBLIC, saying how old it was, how its rubbish because it cant do 90 jigawhats, and because it will have plumbers for its stars. They called it a failure because of its pad being DIFFERENT (lol, Sony cant exactly joke about shit pads... DEAD ZONE MOTHER ****ERS?). What did Microsoft do? They clapped Nintendo. They said "**** guys, that looks pretty cool, your doing something different and we like it! GG!". Thats why you see DS games with "microsoft" on the back, and you dont see a 70 year old solid snake in ANOTHER metal gear on the DS."

See i expect more from a professional company.

The whole thing goes back to the N64 and the PS1, where Nintendo went to Sony for assistance to do the CD drive for it, maybe even co-create the system, and Sony took this info and ideas and secretly started creating a disc based system (PS1) and kept nintendo waiting and waiting ( just like they always do )

then ... SURPRIZE suckas

Then released a competing system and refused to work with nintendo. ****ed up isn't it?

So please stop your lunatic ravings.

Honestly, there's no winning with this guy--everything Sony is crap and that's it as far as he's concerned. Its an utter waste of time trying to argue otherwise with him. He single-handedly has the ability to make the Gamespot forums look sensible!!! Incredible!!!

When the truth be told, i stand corrected. You can "win"

Well besides what I've already said about Sony, the thing is, when it comes to the best in electronics, sony is generally near the bottom of the top rated brands. the worst of the best or the best of the worst. however you want to look at it.

For a lower price, companies like pioneer put out higher quality stuff. So thats another reason I don't "like" sony. Yea they are good man. They just aren't worth what they charge IMHO.

There is also that Sony CD burner that I bought that's Operating system was retarded! It tried so hard to be intuative but ended up doing exactly everything I didn't want it to do. like suggesting the wrong thing every time! I think that thing was $700 too! thank god i was able to return it.

I should point out that I actually own GT4. The changes they made to how the cars drive (particularly in the areas of how the body shifts as you steer and brake) were very major. I had to pretty much learn to drive many of my favorite cars again. Its still not my favorite driving game, but to say it hasn't changed just seems silly.

Yea I owned it too. It was so boring I'd rather argue with Minerel all day

I felt it was pretty much the same, the camera was just not as good (if thats their idea of change ) but the same sound effects for 10 years was probably the biggest disapointment and hurt my enjoyment of it more than anything. I didn't say the game didn't change i just felt like the cars drove exactly the same, flaws and all.

Another example of taking steps backward is how they did away with most of the racing models [R]. I mean come on who wants to drive a honda accord race car that looks like Moms. And they had what 10 years to work on this game? And they could take steps backwards? In GT1 they had race models. Versions of cars that were race cars. Decals, plexiglass windows and all.

For example the new guy on the scene Microsoft has Forza Motorsport. Arguably the king of the racing games now, and PGR3 - equally fun. You can put body kits on your car to make them look as fast as they are.. change the body kit and paint color on the fly. its supposed to be fun. It's a game.