Purchase Help- Rifle

[Angry Lawyer]

Am I the only one who thinks that the best choice would be buying a Combine pulse rifle? Press the big red button, fire a plasma ball, and evaporate the damn animals.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Tr0n]

Terrorist win.

 

[SimonomiS]

God damnit Leroy why didn't you buy a defuse kit.

 

[ríomhaire]

Can someone put these in order of goodness pease. AK47, M16, M4
And also. Tech 9, Uzi, Idigram Mac10, MP5
Thank you.

 

[gh0st]

The Kalashnikov is inaccurate over longer ranges but it does have the extra stopping power, the ar15 is more accurate over longer ranges but lacks stopping power. But then, if you're hunting from longer rangers, you wouldn't really go for an assault rifle as a more powerful and more accurate bolt action would probably better. It would also depend on the enviroment, a dirty environment isn't too goood for Western weapons, especially the m16 and it's variants so an ak would be better.

Relatively clean enviroment at medium to long range for smaller animals - baby deer or smaller, i would go for the ar15.

Dirty enviroment or shorter ranges hunting larger animals - ak

long range to very long range hunting smaller to larger animals - a bolt action precision high calibre rifle.

edit: and if you don't like guns, stop using it as a petty excuse to up your post count you bunch of idiots.

RIFK Your knowledge of counter-strike weaponry is astounding "baby deer" or smaller? Have you ever gone hunting? Do you know that you simply DONT shoot fawns? Not only is it sometimes illegal its the most unethical thing on the planet. Dirty environment? You have no knowledge of guns. Durka dur I'm hunting in this rigorous environment - better bring my AK47, because colt/armalite weapons JAM ALL THE TIME LOL, I HEARD IT FROM TEH HISTORY CHANNEL. Any properly maintained gun will not jam, the need for a "reliable" weapon when you're, above all, hunting, is absurd. I'd bet my left testicle that you've never seen, let alone held, an actual gun in your life. Dont give advice about things you have no clue about. Anyone can vomit generalizations from the early 60s.

 

[oldagerocker]

You only want a big gun to compensate for your incredibly small penis.

 

[Recoil]

Can someone put these in order of goodness pease. AK47, M16, M4
And also. Tech 9, Uzi, Idigram Mac10, MP5

The rifles are already in the right order.

The MPs: MP5, Uzi ............ ........... (insert wide space here) ..... Mac 10 ..... ..... Tec-9.

 

[Pesmerga]

RIFK Your knowledge of counter-strike weaponry is astounding "baby deer" or smaller? Have you ever gone hunting? Do you know that you simply DONT shoot fawns? Not only is it sometimes illegal its the most unethical thing on the planet. Dirty environment? You have no knowledge of guns. Durka dur I'm hunting in this rigorous environment - better bring my AK47, because colt/armalite weapons JAM ALL THE TIME LOL, I HEARD IT FROM TEH HISTORY CHANNEL. Any properly maintained gun will not jam, the need for a "reliable" weapon when you're, above all, hunting, is absurd. I'd bet my left testicle that you've never seen, let alone held, an actual gun in your life. Dont give advice about things you have no clue about. Anyone can vomit generalizations from the early 60s.

I'm sorry but that's the funniest thing I've read all day. And it's only 7 hours into it.

Edit - And if I had to get a gun for its badass factor, I'd get the UMP .45, best looking gun on the face of the planet.

 

[Recoil]

And if I had to get a gun for its badass factor, I'd get the UMP .45, best looking gun on the face of the planet.

Agreed - but that's almost impossible to get, even in the US

 

[bliink]

An Ak47 would be nice considering the conditions of where I live. But it's not like I'd never clean it. But if I was going with a 7.62mm set rifle I'd end up going with an SKS probably.

AK47 is better as a talking piece.

sorry im not into assault rifles. sigghhh bolt action for me.

I've never used either (actually, I cycled a .303 once but thats it), but I would agree there. I figure, the lower down the chain you go, the further you get from the macho gun-nut idea.

 

[15357]

K1 for teh win! *cough*

edit: I meant K-2

 

[Gray Fox]

Anyway though I'm against hunting, I think you should get the gun that kills quickest, now best would be a styer IWS 2000 with the
15.2mm Steyr APFSDS cartridge, but if you're a pussie and can't get that, then go for the ak.

 

[Beerdude26]

And if I had to get a gun for its badass factor, I'd get the UMP .45, best looking gun on the face of the planet.

Omg are you crazy? I'd go for one of FN's weapons :
F2000 :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/171/20/F2000D.gif
30 Rounds
P90 :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/P90.jpg
50 Rounds
Five-Seven :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/FSN1.gif
20 Rounds
M2HB-QCB MG :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/MG2.gif
Feeding Belt
Minimi :
(Also called M249 SAW)
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/MINISTD.jpg
100 Rounds belt feed
EDIT : OMG huge misake my bad
All use 5.7 rounds, except the M2HB-QCB, it uses .50 cal.


I believe large amounts of OMG are in place here

 

[Razor]

RIFK Your knowledge of counter-strike weaponry is astounding "baby deer" or smaller? Have you ever gone hunting? Do you know that you simply DONT shoot fawns? Not only is it sometimes illegal its the most unethical thing on the planet. Dirty environment? You have no knowledge of guns. Durka dur I'm hunting in this rigorous environment - better bring my AK47, because colt/armalite weapons JAM ALL THE TIME LOL, I HEARD IT FROM TEH HISTORY CHANNEL. Any properly maintained gun will not jam, the need for a "reliable" weapon when you're, above all, hunting, is absurd. I'd bet my left testicle that you've never seen, let alone held, an actual gun in your life. Dont give advice about things you have no clue about. Anyone can vomit generalizations from the early 60s.

I have never been hunting but i just used the baby fawn as a size comparison only as nothing sprung to my head of anything that size and all i could think of was Bambi. And no matter how well looked after a gun is, it can still jam. But are you saying that the m16 and its derivitives have no problems with jamming in hostile enviroments, which is what i stated? If you're off hunting for a weekend and hunting things such as bear, the last thing you want is a gun that jams and yes the m16 does jam in particularly hostile enviroments such as in very cold, very wet and very dirty enviroments even if it is looked after properly and RakuraiTenjin did say he was hunting in particularly hostile enviroments.

Personally, i would chose a bolt action rifle as too me, hunting with Assault just seems overkill? For the people that do hunt with them, do you hunt with them on fully automatic or just semi?

 

[Recoil]

Omg are you crazy? I'd go for one of FN's weapons

No one going for HK is crazy :upstare:

All use 5.56 NATO rounds, except the M2HB-QCB, it uses .50 cal.

...oh dude... :upstare: ²³

 

[Razor]

Lol, hunting with a .50 cal. I didn't think you got many American elephants .

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Omg are you crazy? I'd go for one of FN's weapons :
F2000 :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/171/20/F2000D.gif
30 Rounds
P90 :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/P90.jpg
50 Rounds
Five-Seven :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/FSN1.gif
20 Rounds
M2HB-QCB MG :
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/MG2.gif
Feeding Belt
Minimi :
(Also called M249 SAW)
http://img2.imagebarrel.com/img/05/186/15/MINISTD.jpg
100 Rounds belt feed

All use 5.56 NATO rounds, except the M2HB-QCB, it uses .50 cal.


I believe large amounts of OMG are in place here

Overkill. Even if I wanted to, my uncle isn't a Class III dealer anyway

 

[The Mullinator]

All I can say is... BAH! If you want to do big-game hunting then get a bow. Make the playing field at least a little more even for the animal and give yourself a real challenge and thrill of a hunt.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

All I can say is... BAH! If you want to do big-game hunting then get a bow. Make the playing field at least a little more even for the animal and give yourself a real challenge and thrill of a hunt.

I'm not really into bow hunting. A lot of my friends are (They hunt with both bows and rifles), but I don't really like it.

 

[CptStern]

bah you want to make it even ..go out into the bush with no clothes on with nothing but your hands/teeth for weapons ...oh and punch yourself in the head real hard cuz MOST people are more intelligent than animals

 

[gh0st]

No, all FN guns dont use 5.56. Some use 5.7mm so law enforcement can shoot somebody, and the bullet wont penetrate into other people in close quarters.

I have never been hunting but i just used the baby fawn as a size comparison only as nothing sprung to my head of anything that size and all i could think of was Bambi. And no matter how well looked after a gun is, it can still jam. But are you saying that the m16 and its derivitives have no problems with jamming in hostile enviroments, which is what i stated? If you're off hunting for a weekend and hunting things such as bear, the last thing you want is a gun that jams and yes the m16 does jam in particularly hostile enviroments such as in very cold, very wet and very dirty enviroments even if it is looked after properly and RakuraiTenjin did say he was hunting in particularly hostile enviroments.

Personally, i would chose a bolt action rifle as too me, hunting with Assault just seems overkill? For the people that do hunt with them, do you hunt with them on fully automatic or just semi?

See you're using a generalization about the m16a1 from early vietnam that isnt true today. The m16a2/a3 are perfectly reliable - after they had chrome plated bores in 1967, dirt and grime (esp in vietnam) didnt affect it much at all. And no, guns dont "just jam". I have a 1943 piece of SHIT bolt action Mauser, it has never jammed/stuck/or had any other mechanical malfunction, aside from looking like a piece of shit, because I clean the shit out of it. You've never seen an m16, cleaned one, felt one, shot one, you dont know, sorry. New models are every bit as reliable as any shitty ak47.

Fully automatic? You do know that those are basically illegal in the states. Actually no, you probably wouldnt. I guess my point is, if you've never hunted before, why are you trying to offer advice? Because you "think" counter-strike has taught you how to shoot and all the real-world characteristics of weapons? Psh.

 

[Icarusintel]

See you're using a generalization about the m16a1 from early vietnam that isnt true today. The m16a2/a3 are perfectly reliable - after they had chrome plated bores in 1967, dirt and grime (esp in vietnam) didnt affect it much at all. And no, guns dont "just jam". I have a 1943 piece of SHIT bolt action Mauser, it has never jammed/stuck/or had any other mechanical malfunction, aside from looking like a piece of shit, because I clean the shit out of it. You've never seen an m16, cleaned one, felt one, shot one, you dont know, sorry. New models are every bit as reliable as any shitty ak47.

ummm.... depends on how well they've been taken care of, several of the M16 A2s i've shot in ROTC jammed quite frequently, and while they weren't perfectly taken care of they were cleaned after use, i had one jam on me every round for the first 5 shots i tried to fire

of course it didn;t help that out mags were shitty

 

[gh0st]

ummm.... depends on how well they've been taken care of, several of the M16 A2s i've shot in ROTC jammed quite frequently, and while they weren't perfectly taken care of they were cleaned after use, i had one jam on me every round for the first 5 shots i tried to fire

of course it didn;t help that out mags were shitty

Yeah, notice how I said that if they were maintined right. Good mags are important too which rotc are you in? Army?

 

[Tr0n]

Bah...

Use a bow and arrow.

 

[Icarusintel]

Yeah, notice how I said that if they were maintined right. Good mags are important too which rotc are you in? Army?

f'in A Army ROTC.... errr... well, it's fun sometimes, but i'm no ROTC nazi or anything

yeah, the springs in our mags always seem like they're about to die, but we don;t get any new ones, which sucks

 

[Beerdude26]

No, all FN guns dont use 5.56. Some use 5.7mm so law enforcement can shoot somebody, and the bullet wont penetrate into other people in close quarters.

Yeah, just read my post again and fixed that mistake

 

[Razor]

No, all FN guns dont use 5.56. Some use 5.7mm so law enforcement can shoot somebody, and the bullet wont penetrate into other people in close quarters.

See you're using a generalization about the m16a1 from early vietnam that isnt true today. The m16a2/a3 are perfectly reliable - after they had chrome plated bores in 1967, dirt and grime (esp in vietnam) didnt affect it much at all. And no, guns dont "just jam". I have a 1943 piece of SHIT bolt action Mauser, it has never jammed/stuck/or had any other mechanical malfunction, aside from looking like a piece of shit, because I clean the shit out of it. You've never seen an m16, cleaned one, felt one, shot one, you dont know, sorry. New models are every bit as reliable as any shitty ak47.

Fully automatic? You do know that those are basically illegal in the states. Actually no, you probably wouldnt. I guess my point is, if you've never hunted before, why are you trying to offer advice? Because you "think" counter-strike has taught you how to shoot and all the real-world characteristics of weapons? Psh.

Lol, it's been a year since i last played Counterstrike and i know about guns as guns and military equipment is my hobby and m16s are a lot more reliable today but please, they don't come close to the ak47. I have also handled weapons and assault rifles, never fired one, but i know the ins and outs of them. But from what i have heard, i thought that fully automatic was just illegal in some states but not all, but American gun laws aren't my speciality so you have me on that one. The M16s have had exactly the same life as the British SA80, a great rifle but were poor when it came to reliability outside of a factory enviroment until the later models came in and they still can't compared to the ak47 today.

And i wasn't offering advice on hunting, i was offering advice from my knowledge of assault rifles and guns and just because you have fired a gun and own a gun doesn't mean you're a world class expert on them.

 

[gh0st]

And your world class expertise based upon.. touching one is > than mine?

 

[Steve]

Bah...

Use a bow and arrow.

Yeah, and not one of those damned power bows either. Make your own. Like Arnold.

 

[Icarusintel]

get a Desert Eagle .50 (not a f*ckin' deagle) that would make a fine weapon to go hunting with

 

[Razor]

And your world class expertise based upon.. touching one is > than mine?

I have studied them and read about them and read accounts of combat situations from soldiers using them. But if you claim to be a the bigger expert on guns, then i don't mind but what IcarusIntel says about his experience with the m16 is also reiterated from accounts i have read about US soldiers, not just using the a1, but also the a2 version as well. Not heard anything about the a3 version though so that might be different. But all i am saying is that when you're out hunting and camping in not very nice weather and conditions, there are guns that can handle those situations with ease and then there are guns which are more prone to jamming and blockages, guns such as the m16 and the l86, etc.

 

[Beerdude26]

get a Desert Eagle .50 (not a f*ckin' deagle) that would make a fine weapon to go hunting with

That would blow holes the size of a fist trough the animal.

 

[Icarusintel]

That would blow holes the size of a fist trough the animal.

i know, that's why i want one...

 

[SimonomiS]

Yeah, and not one of those damned power bows either. Make your own. Like Arnold.

Short Recoil just throws his arrows. With his teeth.

 

[Burn]

Short Recoil just throws his arrows. With his teeth.

Thats pretty hardcore.

 

[Foxtrot]

What happened to Short Recoil? He dissapeared and now everyone makes references to him...

 

[Steve]

He is vastly superior to me in every way.

 

[Jimmeh]

Short Recoil just throws his arrows. With his teeth.

No he doesn't. Just by looking at them with his amazing eye causes them to die. Instantly.

 

[xLostx]

He is vastly superior to me in every way.

This includes size of pen0r.

 

[Razor]

That would blow holes the size of a fist trough the animal.

Depends on the animal, hunting bunnies with it and you would just end up with fur.

Short Recoil just throws his arrows. With his teeth.

Pssssh....Short Recoil doesn't need teeth, he uses his evil stare and they drop down dead. But when hunting Grizzly's, he just wrestles them to death.