Rape

[Ennui]

Just wondering how all you feel about this. I imagine this won't be a very contested thread.

Rape is an interesting topic, especially on the male-dominated gaming internet that this forum is a part of, because it's both a humorous and serious subject. Mansechs rape, the verb rape as it's used in the context of gaming or in jokes between friends like many people on this forum do (again, mostly in buttsechs context), is one thing, and I am amused at this usage.

However, when it comes to the subject of actual rape, I have to admit that there is not a single thing I find more horrifying, terrible, or disgusting. I've seen *******, 2girls1cup, chopcock, sexual self-mutilation, all kinds of terrible gore, people dying, murders, **********, hangcock, CP, Mr. Hands, meatspin, and all sorts of other horrendously evil things in my many years of internet patronage, and the only thing that has TRULY disturbed me is the one time I accidentally opened a video of an actual rape.

I have family members who have been raped, as well as close friends (an ex-girlfriend of mine, actually). I can state with absolute, lucid certainty that if I had a gun, a get-out-of-jail-free-card, and was standing in front of a rapist, I would shoot him once in the cock and once in the head. You guys have a pretty good idea of my political and social leanings from the last four years of fiery debate here, so I hope you appreciate the gravity of that (because rape is the only situation in which I think, given absolute proof of guilt, the death penalty is warranted).

What are your opinions? I'm not entirely sure what the penalties for various degrees of rape are, but as far as I'm concerned we should have capital punishment soley for punishing rapists. Although given our justice system that would probably mean quite a lot of innocent people would be executed, which I'm not okay with.

 

[Raziaar]

Rape is right up there with murder and child molestation for me as the most offensive of crimes.

I generally don't find the usage in any humorous contexts very funny, but on occasion I'll occasionally say "Man, I just got raped" When I was completely defenseless and got brutally destroyed in a game. However, my usage of that is rare, because generally I find it offensive.

Rape is a serious subject in my mind.

 

[Ravioli]

Rape is horrible, but for me, i WANT TO GET RAPED... (by a woman ofcorse). Thats my ultimate dream, for a woman to totaly dominate me and ****ing rape me and **** the shit out of me

**** yeah

EDIT: oh and Rape CAN be funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3av_qRR_DWc

 

[Ennui]

Ravioli, Carlin is only using rape as a topic but his jokes aren't really about rape - not the funny parts anyway. Although I lol'd listening to that. Also, when I'm talking about rape I generally mean when a man rapes a woman, not vice versa. Your own submissive fantasies are yours... I'm sure there are some girls who would like to be 'raped' by the right sort of person, but it's not rape if you're consenting to it, even if the consent is part of some weird S&M fetish. IE there's a difference between dominant/submissive sexual relationships and actual rape. Although that's a duh sort of statement.

Rape is right up there with murder and child molestation for me as the most offensive of crimes.

I generally don't find the usage in any humorous contexts very funny, but on occasion I'll occasionally say "Man, I just got raped" When I was completely defenseless and got brutally destroyed in a game. However, my usage of that is rare, because generally I find it offensive.

Rape is a serious subject in my mind.

Aye, I've had a few problems with delineating between humor and seriousness in this case, because sometimes it gets a little fuzzy as to where to draw the line. I believe a few of our regulars have experienced sudden random Ennui wrath due to this

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

Seriouly, it's horrible.

:|

 

[Shippi]

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[Pesmerga]

Seriouly, it's horrible.

:|

I lol'd

 

[MiccyNarc]

Rape is horrible, but for me, i WANT TO GET RAPED... (by a woman ofcorse). Thats my ultimate dream, for a woman to totaly dominate me and ****ing rape me and **** the shit out of me

You speak of what you don't know. Seriously, shut the **** up.

 

[Gunner]

Didn't you just say in another thread that life is valuable and special, that you wouldn't kill anyone regardless unless your family was threatened? Now you want to kill rapists.

And this is just awesome:

I can state with absolute, lucid certainty that if I had a gun, a get-out-of-jail-free-card

So you'd only do it if you knew you wouldn't go to jail. What's wrong with you?

 

[Pesmerga]

If someone raped someone dear to me, **** that guy's life. I'm going to ruin his miserable piece of shit existence and go down burning.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

Can I rape him while you kill him?

 

[ComradeBadger]

It's dispicable..

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

Rape = the second worse thing one can do. (first is murder)

1st, it shows how pathetic you are that you have to force sex, you can't even get a prostitute you despicable shit?

2nd, you have to injure someone to prove something? Who the fu*k do you think you are? You think you can say that another is under you control? slave driving SOB.

 

[No Limit]

Obviously I never support rape, unless of course the girl doesnt want to have sex with you, then shit what else are you supposed to do?

Sorry, just finished watching a Louis C.K special on HBO and that was one his jokes tonight, strange I saw this thread 20 mintues after I heard that joke.

To be honest I dont really know what you are asking, rape is one of the worst crimes you can commit right up there with murder.

 

[Ennui]

Is it the worst? I'm basically asserting that rape of another individual is the worst crime someone can commit (although murder is either tied or close) and that I support absolute maximum penalty for it.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

too bad their trying to ban the death penalty.

 

[Ennui]

I support banning the death penalty. I just think rapists deserve to die anyway.

 

[Stigmata]

Rape is, for many very obvious reasons, one of the worst things you can do to someone. As much as I'd like to agree with you, Ennui, I can't honestly say I would support putting a rapist to death. It would go against basically everything I stand for. I don't think I would kill a rapist if I had the same chance that you describe.

But that isn't to say I wouldn't want to kill him.

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

You know what, I kinda agree Stigmata. What's worse? Death, or spending the rest of your life in a prison being raped for what you did. HA, now that's justice.

 

[No Limit]

I'm basically asserting that rape of another individual is the worst crime someone can commit (although murder is either tied or close) and that I support absolute maximum penalty for it.

The problem is far too many women in this country cry rape when no rape has occured and they get away with it with absolutely no punishment at all. Justice is a bitch and many innocent people end up getting caught up in it. If we had a perfect justice system I would support life for these barbarians that rape, because as numerous statistics show as soon as they get out of jail they do the exact same shit if not worse.

 

[99.vikram]

For me, Pedorape > murder > rape.

It's an awful thing to do that to someone, but I don't support the death penalty for rapists.

 

[Sulkdodds]

The problem is far too many women in this country cry rape when no rape has occured and they get away with it with absolutely no punishment at all. Justice is a bitch and many innocent people end up getting caught up in it. If we had a perfect justice system I would support life for these barbarians that rape, because as numerous statistics show as soon as they get out of jail they do the exact same shit if not worse.

Similarly, not very many rapists ever get caught. It's got one of the worst conviction rates of any crimes. So while it may be true that many innocent people go to jail for rapes they didn't commit (dubious...I don't know how you could prove that) there are probably far more rapists that rape and are never caught.

I don't think it's 'as bad' as murder - as far as one can quantify these things as if there were numeric values of evil - but it's up there. I don't agree with your murderous urges, Ennui, but I don't think anyone disagrees with your vicious condemnation of a horrible crime.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Rape is disgusting, although I believe murder is worse - rape can destroy someones life, particulary if they are pro-lifers and get pregnant, not to mention physcologically scar - but murder destroys life utterly.
But no death penalty, just life in jail with no chance of parole is good enough.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

how about death penalty via food for aminals?

 

[Pesmerga]

I disagree with the sentiment that murder is worse than rape. Rape has longer lasting emotional effects- it can torment a woman's life.

Murder is just death. No suffering for the victim after that. It's only painful for those who mourn. And I don't mind suffering so long as they're at some sort of peace. I can get over that. The life long scars of rape burn deep and red.

Well, I can't really say one is "worse" than the other- I dunno really how to put them on a scale. What I do know is that I worry almost every day of my life that someone will do some harm to someone I keep dear. Taking forceful advantage of another woman and doing something she clearly is not down with... that's unholy.

 

[Ennui]

That's basically my sentiment.

 

[Krynn72]

Rape is not funny.

Raep is.

 

[Jintor]

I always had Castration as a much better punishment.

 

[Absinthe]

Rape doesn't really register much for me on an emotional level. I certainly think it's a horrid act for somebody to commit, if not one of the worst. But when I hear about it, I don't suddenly feel the urge to smash the guy's face in with a brick. I certainly think they should be punished heavily by the law, but I wouldn't support the death penalty out of principle any way, or any physical torture as punishment.

Maybe it's because I've never had to go through the experience of having somebody I know being a victim of it, sans a couple more far-removed relationships. I guess that would explain my wholehearted embrace of rape humor. But outside of jokes, I rarely get hit by the act's depravity, even though I recognize how sick it is.

 

[repiV]

The problem is far too many women in this country cry rape when no rape has occured and they get away with it with absolutely no punishment at all. Justice is a bitch and many innocent people end up getting caught up in it. If we had a perfect justice system I would support life for these barbarians that rape, because as numerous statistics show as soon as they get out of jail they do the exact same shit if not worse.

Indeed. And of course, the media is all over it from the moment the accusation is made - so it's rather immaterial whether or not they go to jail for a crime they didn't commit, the damage is done from the outset. It can ruin careers and lives...teachers most of all.
The problem is the trial by media we have these days, not to mention the feminist bias that appears to give women superior treatment.

 

[The Monkey]

It's the most disgusting and horrible acts you can do, along with murder, I think almost everyone can agree with that. I oppose the death penalty in rape, though, just like I do with every other crime.

Do you guys remember that guy who thought rape was "just penetration"?

 

[phantomdesign]

I know a girl who was raped when she was 10 & her ****ed up parents refused to let her have an abortion. She almost died & it resulted in her having cancer twice & a ton of other health-problems. Her daughter also has a lot of health-problems. This messed her up for many many years & even 15 years later it still affects her in many ways.

 

[Darkside55]

The emotional effect of rape is interesting. Hearing what was going on in a victim's mind during the attack, their state after, long-term effects and phobias arising from it. It's a psychoanalyst's playground.

 

[Avoidist]

The emotional effect of rape is interesting.

And saddening. Obviously. Don't want to appear heartless here.

Still, learning more about the psychological consequences can always give you a better opinion of the matter. Personally, I don't know where to put rape on the scale of horrible things, but it should definitely be punished very strongly. Worse than killing? Depends on the killing. Cold blood sickening pleasure murder? Probably not as bad, or on par. War casualty? Rape is far worse.

Funny how subjective all this stuff is.

 

[The Monkey]

War casualties aren't murder.

 

[Kadayi]

Is it the worst? I'm basically asserting that rape of another individual is the worst crime someone can commit (although murder is either tied or close) and that I support absolute maximum penalty for it.

I'd concur, I've seen the effects of it and frankly I think it's a joke how low the sentencing is for it (as well for child abuse).

 

[repiV]

There was a long-serving police officer round these parts, not so long ago got sentenced to 2 years in prison for a string of abuse that went back decades - and that's even bearing in mind the gross abuse of his position. He also ran a kids football team.

It's mind-boggling.

 

[Kaptain H]

Rape is serious business and a terrible crime. That said, I'm not usually bothered by rape jokes on Xbox Live, which as a female, I get a freaking lot of. Only one guy ever truly managed to creep me out, when after he threatened to rape and mutilate my best friend, 5 minutes later he happily announced how neat it was that we were all going to be at the same amusement park the next day. On the other hand, we've been compiling a list of rape jokes about him ever since.

 

[Qonfused]

This is another topic which is two sided.

I'm sure all of us think the actual act of rape is despicable, low and disgusting. For someone to even think about committing an act of rape is... indescribable with words. However, I often laugh at jokes about rape; not directly about rape, but just a mention of it. "Aw, man, you raped me bad," when playing a game is perfectly fine in my book. It's taken on a new meaning in the gaming scene. It's the same with AIDS. People joke about it all the time, yet the actual thought of AIDS is revolting and not funny at all, yet "dude, you gave me the AIDS" is perfectly acceptable.

 

[MJ12]

Rape is horrible. If any of my loved ones was raped I would take it on myself to track down that person and torture them.
In ways, rape is worse than murder.

One of the hardest movies to watch is Irreversible, 20 minute rape scene, gets me pissed off.