Real football vs. American football

Griz said:
American Football = Rugby for pussies (i mean c'mon, wtf is with the suit of armour)

Real Football FTW!!!!

You really have no idea just how hard guys in American football get hit do you? If you remember the XFL a few years back, they didn't allow fair catches, and several people broke their necks, WITH the "armor". This isn't a pussy sport at all, if one of those guys got hit at ALL with no equipment he'd probably break several bones in one blow.

Now you cry that it's rugby for pussies, but say you like soccer. If soccer isn't the biggest "pussy" sport I don't know what is. You can't do ANYTHING to each other, other than crap slide tackling, which looks more like tripping. And even half the time, that gets called and they get a card.
 
DreadLord1337 said:
Now you cry that it's rugby for pussies, but say you like soccer. If soccer isn't the biggest "pussy" sport I don't know what is. You can't do ANYTHING to each other, other than crap slide tackling, which looks more like tripping. And even half the time, that gets called and they get a card.
It's also not a full contact sport, and doesn't claim to be

Why does that make it a 'pussy sport'?
 
DreadLord1337 said:
You really have no idea just how hard guys in American football get hit do you? If you remember the XFL a few years back, they didn't allow fair catches, and several people broke their necks, WITH the "armor". This isn't a pussy sport at all, if one of those guys got hit at ALL with no equipment he'd probably break several bones in one blow.

Now you cry that it's rugby for pussies, but say you like soccer. If soccer isn't the biggest "pussy" sport I don't know what is. You can't do ANYTHING to each other, other than crap slide tackling, which looks more like tripping. And even half the time, that gets called and they get a card.

Like crusher said, soccer doesn't pretend to be a contact sport,plus there is no rougher version. American foorball does, but and yet you were protection unlike us manly europeans. You do not know full contact untill you play it in a shirt.

And no one stilll explained here clearly why it's called football when the ball is mostly carried.
 
Grey Fox said:
Like crusher said, soccer doesn't pretend to be a contact sport,plus there is no rougher version. American foorball does, but and yet you were protection unlike us manly europeans. You do not know full contact untill you play it in a shirt.

And no one stilll explained here clearly why it's called football when the ball is mostly carried.

I played rugby for three years of highschool. I know damn well what contact is in a shirt, but like I said, you don't get hit nearly as hard in rugby as you do in american football. If you got hit in rugby with the force you do in football, you'd break every bone in your body.
 
Let me quote some things about this whole "American Football is for pussies, because you wear armour" bit.

1. The hits taken in American Football, are quite more severe than that of your average Rugby hit.

2. I don't know the build of your average Rugby player, but I can tell you any decent linebacker in the NHL is going to be 6 foot 4, and 340 pounds. (Just under two meters, and around 155 kilos)

3. I watch a reality show a few years ago, about either an Englishman, or an Irishman (can't remember) that was a Rugby player, and came over to America to give professional football a shot. I remember in the show, his team seeing him off, and they were all making fun of the Americans for using pads. First time he plays, he broke (either his for arm, or his shin can't remember). And by broken, I don't mean a little fracture. It was broken.

You go ahead and play American Football without pads if you want, I'll see you in the ER room. It's like driving a car without a seatbelt.
 
Top Secret said:
Let me quote some things about this whole "American Football is for pussies, because you wear armour" bit.

1. The hits taken in American Football, are quite more severe than that of your average Rugby hit.

2. I don't know the build of your average Rugby player, but I can tell you any decent linebacker in the NHL is going to be 6 foot 4, and 340 pounds. (Just under two meters, and around 155 kilos)

3. I watch a reality show a few years ago, about either an Englishman, or an Irishman (can't remember) that was a Rugby player, and came over to America to give professional football a shot. I remember in the show, his team seeing him off, and they were all making fun of the Americans for using pads. First time he plays, he broke (either his for arm, or his shin can't remember). And by broken, I don't mean a little fracture. It was broken.

You go ahead and play American Football without pads if you want, I'll see you in the ER room. It's like driving a car without a seatbelt.

QFE!!1
 
Straight from Answers.com:

"Contemporary football players are larger than their predecessors of only 30 or 40 years ago. It is quite normal, for instance, for all the members of the offensive line of a major college or professional team to weigh more than 300 pounds (136 kg.), whereas in the 1960's linemen who weighed only 270 pounds were common. The increase in player size has led to an increase in the frequency and severity of injuries.

Since nutritional standards and weight-training technique were already quite advanced even in the 1960's, it has been conjectured that much of the increase in the size of the players is the result of the widespread availability of illegal anabolic steroids, which facilitate increased growth of muscle tissue. Such drugs are widely available even to high school players.

Because anabolic steroids have dangerous side effects, the National Football League tests its players for steroids, and penalizes those who are caught. However, it has recently emerged that new varieties of steroids are being developed in clandestine laboratories, which elude existing drug tests. Hence there is a kind of "arms race" between the scientists who develop new kinds of illegal steroids and those who develop tests to detect them."

So yeah. You basically got gorilla sized beasts on juice trying to get a pig skin from you. And you all wonder why we love it so much?
 
I'm confused...

1) American football players hit harder than rugby players? lol...sorry I just don't see why you say that. Does playing american football give them some super strength? Also I'd say Rugby players would be more beefed up because they don't wear pads etc.

2) I'm not a huge rugby fan nor do I know a lot about it but you don't have to know a lot about rugby to see that a lot of its players are huge.

3) I have no idea what happened in this reality show, but rugby and American football are different sports and seeing as American football requires padding, I'm sure their safety training is different to Rugby.

Rubgy has its fair share of nasty injuries though...but who cares, I don't watch sports to see someone hurt..so this entire point of football being crap because its non-contact is bs.
 
Nid Banikeri said:
I'm confused...

1) American football players hit harder than rugby players? lol...sorry I just don't see why you say that. Does playing american football give them some super strength? Also I'd say Rugby players would be more beefed up because they don't wear pads etc.

Yes. Bigger people = more mass. More mass = more energy.

2) I'm not a huge rugby fan nor do I know a lot about it but you don't have to know a lot about rugby to see that a lot of its players are huge.

I've seen my fair share of rugby games. Are you trying to tell me they're the same size?

3) I have no idea what happened in this reality show, but rugby and American football are different sports and seeing as American football requires padding, I'm sure their safety training is different to Rugby.

Suddenly American Football requires padding?

Rubgy has its fair share of nasty injuries though...but who cares, I don't watch sports to see someone hurt..so this entire point of football being crap because its non-contact is bs.

When did I say Football (I'm assuming you mean Association Football) was non-contact? Aha, my friend got a compound fracture on his tibia/fibia. That sounds pretty contactish to me.
 
Nid Banikeri said:
football as in soccer lol.

Association Football = Soccer = Tea = European Football = That Thing Argentina Is Really Good At
 
Don't call it real football, there is no real football. It's called soccer or football but not real football. And they are both extremly boring to watch cmpared to Gaelic or Aussi football.

Edit: Maybe American football hits are harder becasue of the armour? Get hit by 2 balls at of the same size at the same speed. One is a normal football and the other is an extremly hard football. Which do you think will hurt more?
 
ríomhaire said:
Don't call it real football, there is no real football. It's called soccer or football but not real football. And they are both extremly boring to watch cmpared to Gaelic or Aussi football.

Edit: Maybe American football hits are harder becasue of the armour? Get hit by 2 balls at of the same size at the same speed. One is a normal football and the other is an extremly hard football. Which do you think will hurt more?

I was trying to avoid calling it *real* football.
 
ríomhaire said:
Don't call it real football, there is no real football. It's called soccer or football but not real football. And they are both extremly boring to watch cmpared to Gaelic or Aussi football.

Edit: Maybe American football hits are harder becasue of the armour? Get hit by 2 balls at of the same size at the same speed. One is a normal football and the other is an extremly hard football. Which do you think will hurt more?

I was trying to avoid calling it *real* football.

*Edit*

If anything, it should be called Original Football. As American Football is simply an evolved form of Rugby.
 
Top Secret said:
I was trying to avoid calling it *real* football.

*Edit*

If anything, it should be called Original Football. As American Football is simply an evolved form of Rugby.
I'd say Gaelic and Soccer evolved from 1 sport and then rugby came in somewhere. American evolved out of rugby and Aussi out of Gaelic.
 
<RJMC> said:
something that americans should understand is that soccer is the sport who should be called football cuz they use more the feets that the american football

I read someplace that a reason of why the soccer is called soccer is cuz the players use sock...wtf? them the american football should be called helmer cuz the playes use helmets

<RJMC> - Speaking the truth that no-one wants to hear.
 
Yes but you can't change the culture. Aussie rules is called football in Melbourne, Rugby is called football in Sydney, soccer is called football everywhere, Gridiron is called football in the u.s. Basketball is called football in Swaziland (??)

It's a part of culture calling any sport football ....i don't know. NO you shut up!
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Yes but you can't change the culture. Aussie rules is called football in Melbourne, Rugby is called football in Sydney, soccer is called football everywhere, Gridiron is called football in the u.s. Basketball is called football in Swaziland (??)

It's a part of culture calling any sport football ....i don't know. NO you shut up!
I know but that dont mean that they are right
 
lol. when you see someone get pancaked by ted washington, you might understand why american football uses pads. some of these guys are friggin monsters.
 
real football ftw.

american football is for the illiterate.
 
poseyjmac said:
lol. when you see someone get pancaked by ted washington, you might understand why american football uses pads. some of these guys are friggin monsters.
well them if soccer is called soccer cuz the players hav socks them the american football should be called pader,helmer and all that
 
poseyjmac said:
lol. when you see someone get pancaked by ted washington, you might understand why american football uses pads. some of these guys are friggin monsters.

but can only handle doing things one play at a time
 
The reason people get their necks broken is BECAUSE they are wearing helmets. It increases the relative size of your head so that when your head gets turned, the neck cannot cope with the extra torque on it.
The reason the hits in american football are 'bigger' is because they are set up to be that way. I mean, you have two lines of guys running at each other full pelt, and guys who are being tackled who aren't even holding the ball- i mean, rugby tackles occur when a guy who is holding the ball (and expects to be tackled) tries to EVADE his tackler.

I just laugh when i see American Football on TV, because some of those guys aren't even atheletes (blockers or whatever they are)- yet because of the stop start nature of the game they are able to waddle from set to set and have time for a cuppa.
 
heh. 99% of people replying here only like their sport because of their location. its just another opportunity thread to say 'your country sucks!'. ugh, its getting old. you mods should see these useless flamebait threads for what they are and realize theres hardly anything good that will come out of them.

anyway, every pro athelete is there because they are good at what they do. you say that the american football defensive line aren't very fast, yea thats true, but they don't need to be for their position. just as football players, don't need to be freakin tanks to play in their position. thats just how the rules for both games are set up. they are all good atheletes because they can all do things that only a few can do. saying that certain positions of players don't require atheletic prowess is just an ignorant statement that demonstrates how close-minded and uneducated you are about the sport. if these positions were effortless to play, do you think these guys would be earning millions of $ a year?
 
American=run at eachother. stop. run at eachother. stop. BORING
Soccer=too boring. players dive alot. not enough contact
Rugby=good but it is a bit start-stopish sometimes
Aussi=Very good but awkward ball
Gaelic=only better than Aussi because of round ball
Compromise(It's a mixture of Gaelic and Aussi)=best
 
im a Brit(well Welsh so shud love Rugby) but i respect American Footballers (when is next Superbowl?) but prefer 'Soccer' for Footy for me
 
J_Tweedy said:
The reason people get their necks broken is BECAUSE they are wearing helmets. It increases the relative size of your head so that when your head gets turned, the neck cannot cope with the extra torque on it.

No, sorry. One of the main occurances in neck breaking is when a player is sent diving straight towards the ground. In many of these cases, the helmet is what keeps the head from twisting the most. Ofcourse, you're guessing logic is much more accurate than my known facts.

J_Tweedy said:
The reason the hits in american football are 'bigger' is because they are set up to be that way. I mean, you have two lines of guys running at each other full pelt, and guys who are being tackled who aren't even holding the ball- i mean, rugby tackles occur when a guy who is holding the ball (and expects to be tackled) tries to EVADE his tackler.

Are you trying to tell me there isn't always someone in American Football trying to evade the tackler? If so, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

J_Tweedy said:
I just laugh when i see American Football on TV, because some of those guys aren't even atheletes (blockers or whatever they are)- yet because of the stop start nature of the game they are able to waddle from set to set and have time for a cuppa.

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA Not athletes? AHHAHAHAHA

Wow. I'd like for you to point to a group of people more in shape.
 
I'd like to point out that the start/stop nature of American Football has a lot to do with the rules of the game and also the strategies that are involved with defense and offense. Once you get a good play and the scores a close and the clock in running low, it can get really intense.
 
Let's give American Football its proper name - American Soccer :cheese:
 
Laivasse said:
Let's give American Football its proper name - American Soccer :cheese:

Or American Football.

Soccer is really painful to watch, and boring as well, the players just move back and forth 2918383912x over before anyone makes a goal. In Football, you've got a steady advacement and build-up before a climatic goal or interception/fumble recover.
 
I like soccer/football better than American football, but then I don't care that much about sports at all.
 
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