Rosie O'Donnel comment

the politics forum isnt scary ..once you realise that anything you say may/will be gone over with a fine toothed comb by some our members you'll be alright ..just research any points you have before posting
 
Tyguy said:
put them on a scale and weigh them.
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Are you going to assemble statistics or do any research to support your inference that radical Islam is responsible for more evil (let's say 'in the last ten years') than radical Christianity?

Indeed, how do you intend to measure 'evil'? Deaths? That's not going to work.

Threatening != killed more people.
Threatening is potential for evil.
There's a whole lot of that going around right now.

"Christians are not threatening to kill us", says lady.
Sure, but some of them are threatening to kill everyone else.
 
...your point is...?

Of course, if you're going to say that O'Donnel's comment was the dumbest you ever heard because you don't believe it's possible to weigh up both religions in terms of 'threat' then fair enough.

But judging by your posts in this thread, you clearly think it's dumb because you think Islam is 'worse' than Christianity. In which case, you appear to have rather contradicted yourself.
 
Tyguy, you're going in circles here and you haven't answered anyone's questions, you consistently ignore them, focusing on irrelevant points. I'm pretty sure you've already stated some logical fallacies as well.
 
Sulkdodds said:
...your point is...?

Of course, if you're going to say that O'Donnel's comment was the dumbest you ever heard because you don't believe it's possible to weigh up both religions in terms of 'threat' then fair enough.

But judging by your posts in this thread, you clearly think it's dumb because you think Islam is 'worse' than Christianity. In which case, you appear to have rather contradicted yourself.
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fair enough, the first was my whole point, in terms of violence.
 
The violence in the bible is best illustrated by:

www.thebricktestament.com

Also, someone mentioned in another thread that this isn't religion vs. religion, it's affluence vs. poverty.

Tyguy said:
Im suprised how many liberal thinking people are on this forum. The point of the matter is, today, right now, islamists are more violent, threatening, and dangerous than christians. Last time I checked Christians were not cutting the heads off of innocent civilians to make a point.
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The President of Iran is suprised too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5316634.stm
 
Tyguy said:
"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate."

These are from the Koran
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(The following is cut-and-pasted from a previous post.)



What follows are the laws of the old testament, the laws of Moses. You need to follow them and enforce them, or god will abandon you and you will go to hell. You cannot, therefore, be a christian and ignore these laws.

But what about that new testament? Doesn't Jesus overrule these laws?

Let's just pretend for a second that Jesus is not a false prophet and not destined for eternal torture in hell.
Jesus says:

'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law of Moses or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
In truth I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even the smallest stroke of a letter will pass away from The Law.'
(Matthew 5:17 & 5:18)

At no point does jesus ever call the old laws obsolete. Above, he calls them mandatory forever.

Here is the law (accidentally commiting a crime is equally punishable unless marked otherwise):

Death Penalty:
-Killing someone while angry at them.
-Killing someone while not angry at them (unless you stay in a City of Refuge (a safe zone built by the government).
-Killing someone with a weapon.
-Leaving a City of Refuge.
-Bestiality.
-Attempted Bestiality.^
-Homosexuality.
-Having sex with your mother, daughter or sister (actual genetic relation not required).
-Having sex with your father, son or brother (actual genetic relation not required).^
-Being married to both a mother and her daughter.
-Adultery.
---Looking at a woman with lust.
---Remarrying after a divorce.
---Marrying a divorced woman.
-Raping a married woman.
-Being raped (while married in an urban area).^
-Being accused of having premarital sex by your husband (and not being able to prove otherwise).^
-Beating your slave until he dies.
-Disobeying your parents.
-False prophecy (asking people to worship anything other than Jehovah. This does not(?) include jesus and the holy spirit).
-Living in a town where a false prophet is.
-Performing magic tricks, or any illusion.
-Ingesting blood.

Torture:
-Hitting a man in the crotch - your hand is cut off.*^
-Starting a dispute - beaten up to 40 times.
-Injuring a pregnant woman - equal trauma on yourself.
-Falsely accusing your wife of having premarital sex - beating.

Quarantine:
-Ejaculating (24 hours).
-Having sex (24 hours).
-Menstruating (7 days).^
-Having sex with a menstruating woman (7 days).
-Living in a town where a false prophet is (eternity).
-Being castrated (eternity).

Small fines:
-Hitting a man with a rock, as long as he does not die.*
-Causing an abortion.
-Menstruating (four birds).^
-Rape.
-Falsely accusing your wife of having premarital sex (100 silver coins).

Specifically Unpunished:
-Killing a man who leaves a City of Refuge.*
-Being raped in a non-urban area.
-Male genocide (only during war).*
-Adultery.^
-Slavery.
-Beating your slave (as long as he survives).
-Racial segregation.

* = Accidents (negligence, passion, etc.) not included.
^ = Female-specific crimes.
Bold text = new laws.

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There are many more (plus several additional ones), but those not listed here are not strictly illegal; they (along with the above) are auto-punished by god, so human intervention is not required.

Even if you are not caught, you will be tortured to death by god for commiting any of these crimes and those not listed.
 
Also, for the record:

The bible contains a total of 853 passages containing explicit cruelty violence by the "good" guys, including repeated mandatory god-sanctioned genocide and celebrations of murder.
Even in the new testament, as explained above.

The Qur'an contains 337 such passages, but is a shorter book.

All in all, both are EQUALLY EVIL AS ALL HELL. Making Rosie accurate in her statements.
 
to me both religions are the same just with different practices. but i think violence in islam is proportionally higher but educationally they are probably at the same level, although not as sure (dont feel looking it up)
and to argue all the laws you pointed out id like to say that the laws are more of a guideline. when you convert to christianity your not supposed to worry about the sins commited because they are paid for already and if jesus was in your heart you would be a good person
 
LOL so the Bible is just a codex of guidelines now? No. I don't think so.
 
It's true!

God appeared from the heavens unto moses, and he sayeth:

Almighty God in Heaven said:
Hey guys. I was wondering - no, it's okay, sit down - I was wondering if you'd like to try some ideas I've been thinking about. Now bear with me here, 'cause this might seem a bit "out there".

I'd like to see a little genocide - if that's alright with you. If your schedule conflicts, don't worry. We can always do it later. I'm just saying maybe it's best of we get this done earlier, you know?

You don't want to commit genocide? That's cool, that's cool. I totally respect your opinion. All I'm saying is that genocide is maybe an option, you know? Maybe try a little genocide, and then if you like it, we could do some more. I really think this genocide thing has potential.
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Bullshit!

Nowhere in the bible does it say anything is open to interpretation.
God didn't say that. That's a horrible lie.
God openly discourages lying about the bible by making it PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.
He hates you so much that he wants you killed just so you can go the hell faster.
False prophecy is not allowed.

You made all that up, pulled it right out of your ass.
While under the influence of Satan, maybe?

If you aren't following the bible, then you aren't a christian.
You're a failure at obeying god.

God himself says so.

HELL IS NOT A PLEASANT PLACE, UNDERSTAND?
 
your confusing me? whatever though you guys take the violent parts of the bible too seriously but who am i too judge you guys here probably took the time to read the bible as a whole, didnt you? because i get the impression you people just looked up "genocide" and "bible" in google and went from there. now im not christian anymore but i know evangelical christianity since i grew up one but you people who keep bashing the bible need to start looking at the bible as a whole not single verses scattered init
 
delusional said:
whatever though you guys take the violent parts of the bible too seriously
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Widely followed scripture advocating genocide kind of is a serious matter.

The entire Bible, as a whole, is garbage. A mess of contradictions. But singular direct statements commanding murder don't require context. They are so forward and obvious with what they intend that there is no room for debate except in the minds of apologetics.
 
I've read the entire bible, so I know that you are lying.

Don't try to bullshit us with this "my bible is so complex you can't understand it" nonsense.
In christianity, lying about the bible is punishable by painful death, and then eternal torture in hell after painful death.

It says, plain as day: EVERYONE WHO WORSHIPS ANOTHER GOD MUST DIE.
The home cities and all belongings in them are to be burnt, melted down and then quarantined for the rest of eternity.

THAT is what the bible says.
That is what the bible says, in its full, complete context.

Actually, the full context is that Jesus fully agrees with this position, with the only condition being that you love the people while you slaughter them.

So either

A) shut the hell up about things you don't understand
or
B) tell us exactly what passage(s) - in context - support your bullshit view of the bible as a set of vague guidelines to be followed loosely or not at all, without punishment in hell.
 
you'll get no arguments from me on contradictions. dont use genocide as your sole reason to bash the bible though. when it comes to the laws though they need to be taken in context because in the new testament jesus paid for your sins so animal sacrifice wasnt needed. someone with jesus in their heart wont go around killing eachother because the holy spirit guides them through life and will thus obey the laws not by fear of repercusions but because they want to live a good lifestyle
 
delusional said:
dont use genocide as your sole reason to bash the bible though.
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I won't, but it's certainly reason enough.

You can't seem to grasp that people with Jesus in their hearts are supposed to kill people.
 
jeremiah 31:32-33 "it will not be like the covenent i made with there forefathers when i took them by hand to lead them out of egypt because they broke my covenent though i was husband to them declares the lord. this is the covenent i will make with the house of israel after that time declares the lord. i will put my law in their minds, i will write it on their hearts. i will be there god and they will be my people"
so there old law discarded, new law comes from the holy spirit.
 
Yes, now what is the "new law"?

As I've already pointed out, the "new law", as it affects the actions of men, is no different except for an expanded definition of adultery.
In terms of what humans must do to each-other, the genocides, killings, sexism and racism are all the same.

However, to avoid hell you must also give away all your belongings and be superficially nice, among other things.
Being a non-communist, however, is punishable only by god in the form of ETERNAL TORTURE.
Lots of these new god-only instructions were added, wherin god is the only punisher, and you neighbours can safely ignore you.

The explicit instructions on how and why to kill your neighbours remain essentially identical.
No carvings
No being raped against your will
No adultery
No belonging to other religions
No etc.
All those things I listed above are still punishable by gory death.

Jesus makes it pretty clear that the only way to avoid being killed is with his personal intervention - just as was the case with god in the old testament.
If god does not personally ask you to stop, you must destroy at least half the population of Earth.


Now: who did you say was taking things out of context?


So, how can you not follow even maybe one percent of these rules and still call yourself a christian?

Some christians say to kill abortionists.
In the bible, fetuses are fair game up until they are one month old - outside the womb.

It's like trying to play football while wearing a helmet and dribbling the ball to the pool for a triple salchow.
Cheating at soccer is all well and good, but here you've got people giving up their lives - and, more often, the lives of others - in exchange for the deceit.
 
This thread is stupid. Radical Christianity is a force present in well developed countries like the US. Extremism is therefor less likely to consist of violence but more of repression. And it certainly has harmful effects, the infiltration of religion into education, the opression of certain minorities, the opposition against stuff like stemcell research.

Radical Islam is mostly present in less developed countries. Radical groups there resort to violence more. They're also fighting an enemy that's far more advanced and developed, leading to unconventional warfare with people blowing themselves up because that's the only viable way of fighting such an enemy.
 
PvtRyan said:
This thread is stupid. Radical Christianity is a force present in well developed countries like the US. Extremism is therefor less likely to consist of violence but more of repression. And it certainly has harmful effects, the infiltration of religion into education, the opression of certain minorities, the opposition against stuff like stemcell research.

Radical Islam is mostly present in less developed countries. Radical groups there resort to violence more. They're also fighting an enemy that's far more advanced and developed, leading to unconventional warfare with people blowing themselves up because that's the only viable way of fighting such an enemy.
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QFT
 
Tyguy said:
"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate."

These are from the Koran
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But so is

"The Muslim believers, the Jews, the Christians and the Sabians -all those who believe in God and the last day and do good - will have their rewards with their lord. No fear for them, nor will they grieve" - The Qur'an 2:62

Just thought I'd put this forward....
 
CptStern said:
and?


Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them. Matthew 7:12

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21

Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7)


"From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces." (2 Kings 2:23-24 )

"The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords." (Hosea 13:16)




shit stupid ghostzilla ate half my post




well whether you believe it happened or not doesnt make it so

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/...2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

it happened ..there were multiple witnessess





ok:

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_terrorists_kill_44.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_(U.S._movement)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura
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"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you." -Matthew 7:12. I don't know which bible your quote came from, but this one is from the New Oxford Annotated Bible. This passage doesn't mean an eye for an eye, but that one should treat others as he wishes to be treated himself. I don't see this as a call to violence, but as a call to justice and fair judgement. As for the other quotes, they are irrevelent when compared to the new testament. The old testament called for violence against non-believers, but the new testament calls for one to "love his enemy." I mean, even Jesus went against the Old Testament by breaking the sabath. If a person is truly christian, he will follow the teachings of the New Testament(Christ's teachings) and not the radical Old Testament teachings (moses' and the prophet's teachings).
 
I guess I need to find a passage that supports my stance too. :(

"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels." Timothy 2:23
 
Sebastian said:
"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you." -Matthew 7:12. I don't know which bible your quote came from, but this one is from the New Oxford Annotated Bible. This passage doesn't mean an eye for an eye, but that one should treat others as he wishes to be treated himself. I don't see this as a call to violence, but as a call to justice and fair judgement. As for the other quotes, they are irrevelent when compared to the new testament. The old testament called for violence against non-believers, but the new testament calls for one to "love his enemy." I mean, even Jesus went against the Old Testament by breaking the sabath. If a person is truly christian, he will follow the teachings of the New Testament(Christ's teachings) and not the radical Old Testament teachings (moses' and the prophet's teachings).
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oh oh, prepare to be pummeled by Mechagodzilla, specifically on the point you make that christians should follow the NT and disregard the old testament

specifically this passage from the NT:

'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law of Moses or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
In truth I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even the smallest stroke of a letter will pass away from The Law.'
(Matthew 5:17 & 5:18)

purposefully ignoring the OT is punishable by death
 
...So how about that Rosie O'donnel eh?

P.S. you guys arguing that there are no radical christians need to open your eyes, just because it isn't plastered all over the media doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you." -Matthew 7:12.

Once again, you have removed the context.
The context is that Jesus says you MUST follow the Old Testament TO THE LETTER.

So, Matt 7:12 must mean that the golden rule applies to how you must fatalistically accept biblical law:

"Punish others according to god's law, because you accept that you deserve to be punished if you break those same laws."


Either that, or Jesus is a false prophet and christianity is obsolete.

So either the bible primarily demands actions gruesome and terrible, and is therefore obsolete;
or, as you have attempted to prove, it is internally inconsistent and therefore obsolete.
Passages like that golden rule and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" are constantly bastarded by removing them from their incredibly awful, violent context.

These are executioner's laws. People only quote the part about how to wash your hands afterwards.

REMEMBER (and this is key to staying out of hell and remaining a christian):
Jesus says FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT AT ALL COSTS.
Jesus then added new details onto the old testament.
For example, he extended the definition of adultery to include "looking at a woman with lust."
He did not, at any point, say "stop killing adulterers" - because YOU MUST FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT AT ALL COSTS.

That heathenistic tidbit about love and respect was pulled right out of the collective asshole of religious moderatism.
 
Glirk Dient said:
...So how about that Rosie O'donnel eh?

P.S. you guys arguing that there are no radical christians need to open your eyes, just because it isn't plastered all over the media doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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No one said there arent radical Christians
 
Mechagodzilla said:
"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you." -Matthew 7:12.

Once again, you have removed the context.
The context is that Jesus says you MUST follow the Old Testament TO THE LETTER.

So, Matt 7:12 must mean that the golden rule applies to how you must fatalistically accept biblical law:

"Punish others according to god's law, because you accept that you deserve to be punished if you break those same laws."


Either that, or Jesus is a false prophet and christianity is obsolete.

So either the bible primarily demands actions gruesome and terrible, and is therefore obsolete;
or, as you have attempted to prove, it is internally inconsistent and therefore obsolete.
Passages like that golden rule and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" are constantly bastarded by removing them from their incredibly awful, violent context.

These are executioner's laws. People only quote the part about how to wash your hands afterwards.

REMEMBER (and this is key to staying out of hell and remaining a christian):
Jesus says FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT AT ALL COSTS.
Jesus then added new details onto the old testament.
For example, he extended the definition of adultery to include "looking at a woman with lust."
He did not, at any point, say "stop killing adulterers" - because YOU MUST FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT AT ALL COSTS.

That heathenistic tidbit about love and respect was pulled right out of the collective asshole of religious moderatism.
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I see that Jesus' primary teachings were against hypocracy, and many of the old testament laws were hypocritical and relied on people judging one another. He posed the question "who am I to judge this person? Am I not as great of sinner as he?" This means that the only person who has a right to judge is God. I know that these teachings will never work in our world, because people judge one another in the first 15 seconds of meeting. Every christian who acts on a judgement of another is a hypocrit, because in the end every person has some good quality in them that cannot be seen by the eyes of the person who judges. Sure Jesus didn't say "stop killing adulterers", but if a person is a true, unjudgemental christian, he will be able to see that he has no right to punish those who commit "sins"
here are some passages that show that Jesus changed the Old Testament from radical violence to peaceful resolutions.
"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well; and if anyone forces you to go one mile, go also the second mile." -matthew 5: 38-42

Also matthew 5:43 says "You have heard that it was said, 'you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.; but I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
These passages tell me that Jesus' teachings take precedence over those of the old testament.
 
The funny part is that god is supposedly omniscient, when things like this in the bible obviously contradict that claim.

If he were omniscient, he'd see your poo wherever you buried it, no matter how carefully concealed. Hell, he'll even watch it while it's coming out of you. He'll stare directly at your poo for the rest of eternity.


"The eyes of the Lord are in every place."
Proverbs 15:3

Edit: Oh no you di-int!
 
In fact, he'll have an omni-stereoscopic view of your poo.
 
"I see that Jesus' primary teachings were against hypocracy, and many of the old testament laws were hypocritical and relied on people judging one another."

Error: No law of the old testament is hypocritical in the slightest. "Thou shall not kill" almost is, but the correct translation is "thou shall not murder". Ritualistic executions are not murder because they are justified by god's law.

Error: "Judging other people" is not hypocracy unless the judge is a biblical felon.

"who am I to judge this person? Am I not as great of sinner as he?"

Error:Jesus didn't say that at all. Jesus is actually the appointed judge of all mankind: See John 5:20-30.

You're probably refering to the part where he tells another random guy that the random guy can't judge unless he too follows the laws and is therefore not sinful. (John 8:2-11)
The clear message here is that those without sin - who follow all the laws - may kill at their leisure.
Jesus is against hypocracy, but he's all for the genocide of all dissidents.
Saying otherwise ignores half the bible and puts false words in the mouth of christ.

That's a form of idolatry and - surprise! - punishable by death.

"This means that the only person who has a right to judge is God."

Error: God demanded judges in the old testament, and jesus demands that the old testament be upheld.
Nowhere in the bible does it say "judging is illegal and you will go to hell if you do."
Not in any place.
Please stop lying about the bible.

"Every christian who acts on a judgement of another is a hypocrit, because in the end every person has some good quality in them that cannot be seen by the eyes of the person who judges."


What the hell? Now you're really just making shit up.
Since when are you allowed to break the PERMANENT LAWS OF GOD if you "have good in your heart" or whatever bullshit?
You just made that up!

"Sure Jesus didn't say "stop killing adulterers""

Bingo, game over.

"...but if a person is a true, unjudgemental christian, he will be able to see that he has no right to punish those who commit "sins""

Error: The phrase "true, unjudgemental christian" broke my oxymoronic bullshittimeter.
I demand that you buy me a new one.
Nowhere in the bible does it say this stuff you're saying. You're just pulling it out your ass.

If you aren't basing your beliefs on the bible, then you aren't a christian. You're a heathen who is going to hell.

"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well; and if anyone forces you to go one mile, go also the second mile." -matthew 5: 38-42

You have (almost) proven that jesus is a false prophet, because he has contradicted the old testament, and that is impossible for a real prophet to do. Oops!

Except...

Error: The "eye for an eye" statement only ever applied to accidentally injuring a pregant woman during a brawl, and only then after causing her to miscarriage! (Exodus 21:22)
The old testament has no big rules about such nonfatal injuries whatsoever. In fact, the guilty party in a fight is only given a small fine, even if his victim ends up crippled.

Also, it never was the victim's job to judge or punish! That's what the judges were for!
This is a speech against vigilante-ism, not against the old testament.

Please read the bible before you post!

Next:

Also matthew 5:43 says "You have heard that it was said, 'you shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.; but I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"

Error: You have to pray for your enemy while you kill them! Nothing about the execution law is changed here.
In fact, where in the old testament is hatred of enemies ever mandatory? Answer: it never was.

Jesus is clarifying and elaborating on the old testament, but there is absolutely no contradiction with any old testament laws.

"These passages tell me that Jesus' teachings take precedence over those of the old testament."

Your wishful thinking does not override what the bible says.
If you were correct, you would have proven the bible inherently flawed.
However, the contradictions and complications arise almost entirely from moderate bullshitters like you ignoring the key passages in favor of those that are nice and fluffy. hell, you just tried to dismiss the entire bible with just two quotes!

You're inventing a contradictory, pacifistic jesus where none exists, just because you haven't got the ballsack to kill for your god.

The bible itself tells us that you aren't a real christian.

REPENT.
 
Actually, Christianity is sounding more and more appealing.

If I were a religious Stalin.
 
You are much better versed on the subject of christianity than I, therefore I concede until I become better versed on the subject. Where did you learn all this stuff anyway?
 
Sebastian said:
"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you." -Matthew 7:12.
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If you where a real Christian you would want to be punished if you broke any of the Lord's sacred laws.
 
ríomhaire said:
Sebastian said:
"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you." -Matthew 7:12./QUOTE]
If you where a real Christian you would want to be punished if you broke any of the Lord's sacred laws.
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I don't remember reading that anywhere in the bible. That is your intereptation of that quote. My interpertation is the opposite of that; but as to who is right, I guess we'll find out when we die.
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