stumbled upon a bad bad persons wireless network. what to do?

[Icarus]

Law Student chiming in agian.
Can people stop saying that he "has" to do things you say. Most of your suggestions have good intent but are misguided.
As pertaining to wireless access, here you go.

AN ACT relative to unauthorized access to a wireless computer network.

1 Computer Related Offenses; Network Security. Amend RSA 638:17, I to read as follows:

I.(a) A person is guilty of the computer crime of unauthorized access to a computer or computer network when, knowing that the person is not authorized to do so, he or she knowingly accesses or causes to be accessed any computer or computer network without authorization. It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution for unauthorized access to a computer or computer network that:

[(a)] (1) The person reasonably believed that the owner of the computer or computer network, or a person empowered to license access thereto, had authorized him or her to access; or

[(b)] (2) The person reasonably believed that the owner of the computer or computer network, or a person empowered to license access thereto, would have authorized the person to access without payment of any consideration; or

[(c)] (3) The person reasonably could not have known that his or her access was unauthorized.

After more research, laws are in place to prevent "war driving" which is when hackers drive around with a laptop on to see if they can get on a network.

It is the number 1 type of cybercrime, not counting filesharing.
Law enforcement agencies all around the world are cracking down on it, because it opens the door to other cybercrime, including identity theft.

 

[CptStern]

so instead of criticzing oh mr law student why dont you advise what he should do instead?

 

[Tr0n]

so instead of criticzing oh mr law student why dont you advise what he should do instead?

Cptstern in right...instead of criticzing our suggestions...why don't you give one on what he should do.

 

[Axyon]

I don't want to close this thread, because the issue needs resolution. Any flaming/debating posts will just be deleted, so I suggest you stop now.

 

[Icarus]

If you read the thread CptStern and Tr0n, I had already posted my IM names, and have since been in contact with poseyjmac, and am in the process of talking him through what he needs to do. I talked him through a few courses of action last night, and will be talking with him agian today.

And please note that I asked in the kindest of ways that you only desist from telling him that he has to do a certian thing, please let the suggestions keep flowing, but don't demand he take a certian action.

 

[CptStern]

If you read the thread CptStern and Tr0n, I had already posted my IM names, and have since been in contact with poseyjmac, and am in the process of talking him through what he needs to do. I talked him through a few courses of action last night, and will be talking with him agian today.

alrightee then

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

I have not read the whole thread. But cant you just post an anon tip off or something?


Sick bastard needs to go down irregardless. Its just a case of how.

 

[Cybernoid]

Well look at it this way...What if he is probally abusing his kids?I mean wouldn't you risk getting put in jail to bust this guy?I would and if I got put in jail for it so be it...because in the end your putting an evil person away.So think about those kids...and then decide what to do.

Oh gods... someone possibly has kiddie porn on his hard-disk, and suddenly he's a child-abusing menace to society (and someone who wanders into other people's computers for fun is, of course, a god-fearing, law-abiding citizen of the utmost integrity and honesty). People really love jumping into conclusions.

 

[Tr0n]

Oh gods... someone possibly has kiddie porn on his hard-disk, and suddenly he's a child-abusing menace to society (and someone who wanders into other people's computers for fun is, of course, a god-fearing, law-abiding citizen of the utmost integrity and honesty). People really love jumping into conclusions.

Yea I do got a ****ing problem with that?Ether way he should be put in jail for that shit.

 

[Kangy]

Inform his family/a senior member of his community/the police, with an annon. phone call.

 

[Frank]

Bust his ass!

 

[craig]

Fact is the guy who accessed the guys PC did break the law for definite, and the guy with the kiddie pr0n no one has all the facts about, he could have it for numerous reasons. Not knowing exactly what justifies child pornography, how do we know what this guy has on his comp is kid pr0n?

 

[Axyon]

Posts deleted, get back on topic now.

 

[Shuzer]

Edit: Fair enough. I'll let Abom have the final word here. Cybernoid, I suggest getting a reality check.

 

[lePobz]

Jmac already said the content is definately illegal, read the thread again.

 

[Cybernoid]

Jmac already said the content is definately illegal, read the thread again.

Where? I've only seen him say that the filenames suggest kiddie porn.

 

[Shuzer]

Where? I've only seen him say that the filenames suggest kiddie porn.

Go back and read the thread, perhaps? Even I saw him say it..

 

[Axyon]

I suggest getting your head out of your ass before it disappears.

First and final warning. Get back on topic, cut the flaming, or I'll just ban you.

 

[Icarus]

(and if he did, he would be guilty of kiddie porn as well).

only if the person looked at them"with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust, passion or sexual desires of that person" California Penal Code

Edit: uhhh abom...you deleted his post in which i quoted...please bring at least that line back...it serves an educational purpose...

 

[Cybernoid]

First and final warning. Get back on topic, cut the flaming, or I'll just ban you.

If the topic isn't kiddie porn, what is it? Please explain.

 

[lePobz]

Well first he found the stuff but only the filenames and didn't open them... so he waited for his mate to get off work, then he went back there in his car... and looked at the pics, then posted this: -

found pics that appear to have underage content. now we want to bust this guy

However you look at it, this guy needs to be reported, regardless of whether he is abusing his kids or not.. he has child porn, and deserves punishment + treatment.

 

[Cybernoid]

Well first he found the stuff but only the filenames and didn't open them... so he waited for his mate to get off work, then he went back there in his car... and looked at the pics, then posted this: -



However you look at it, this guy needs to be reported, regardless of whether he is abusing his kids or not.. he has child porn, and deserves punishment + treatment.

"Underage content" is so vague that I won't even bother to tell you just how vague it is (especially when it "appears" that the content is underage).

 

[Icarus]

"Underage content" is so vague that I won't even bother to tell you just how vague it is (especially when it "appears" that the content is underage).

please elaborate

 

[Cybernoid]

please elaborate

Underage content can be anything from 0 to 17 or even 18, depending on where you live. And how is it confirmed that it's underage content when it only "appears" that it is?

 

[lePobz]

Why would Jmac want to bust the guy if he only had pictures of an 18 year old in a wet t-shirt competition?

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

"Underage content" is so vague that I won't even bother to tell you just how vague it is (especially when it "appears" that the content is underage).

Seriously, why are you actually bothering?!

I mean if its not underage and is perfectly legal then the police wont press charges. But wtf!?!?

Are you suggesting that we just forget about this guy because we arnt 110% sure?


I mean what kind of sick attitude is that?

 

[Cybernoid]

Why would Jmac want to bust the guy if he only had pictures of an 18 year old in a wet t-shirt competition?

Why would jmac enter someone's private computer without permission? Because he's an idiot.

 

[Cybernoid]

Are you suggesting that we just forget about this guy because we arnt 110% sure?

Um, yes.

I mean what kind of sick attitude is that?

A lawful and rational one, I should think.

 

[lePobz]

That is not the argument here, and stumbling onto someones router is easily done... and it is in no way comparable to posessing indecent pictures of children.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Why would jmac enter someone's private computer without permission? Because he's an idiot.

We know it was wrong to enter the guys hard drive and snoop arround.


But for gods sake. Cant you see that ISNT the point here!

Its by far the lesser of two evils in comparision to what this guy appears to have!

 

[Icarus]

Cybernoid, I have talked extensivly with poseyjmac and you are so far greatly mistaken...don't jump to conclusions

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Um, yes.




A lawful and rational one, I should think.

Lawfull and rational. Yeah. Well, in my book its imorral and sick. :|

 

[Cybernoid]

Cybernoid, I have talked extensivly with poseyjmac and you are so far greatly mistaken...don't jump to conclusions

As far as I can see, I'm the only one here who hasn't jumped to conclusions. And you can talk all you want with jmac in private, it doesn't mean anything to this thread if it isn't public.

 

[CptStern]

alright guys can we all just agree that this guy needs help ..and move on. I personally am more interested in what posey does with this info than listening to you guys argue

 

[Icarus]

They are courses of action that need not be shared on a public forum.
You are, in effect, pissing in the wind.

 

[Cybernoid]

They are courses of action that need not be shared on a public forum.

Then why are we having this conversation?

 

[lePobz]

alright guys can we all just agree that this guy needs help ..and move on. I personally am more interested in what posey does with this info than listening to you guys argue

Seconded. :thumbs:

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

As far as I can see, I'm the only one here who hasn't jumped to conclusions. And you can talk all you want with jmac in private, it doesn't mean anything to this thread if it isn't public.

For gods sake!


We have heard that it looks like the guy has underage porn on his computer and you are saying that we shouldnt do ANYTHING because we "could be wrong"

Well we could be right. And I would sleep alot easier if I thought I had wrongly accused someone and nothing happend to them than if I hadnt bothered doing anything and some sick bastard continued to download pornograthic images of small children.



Seriously, Why do you not understand?

 

[SLH]

Seriously, Why do you not understand?

He is a troll, he does understand.

 

[Icarus]

Then why are we having this conversation?

not to discuss what I am telling him, he wanted outside advice and discussion