the 2nd amendment in action: 5 yr old brings gun to school

[CptStern]

Pre-Kindergarden Student Brings Handgun to School

AUSTIN, Texas - A pre-kindergarten student brought a handgun to school, where it was seized by a fifth-grader and turned over to the principal, school district officials said Tuesday.

The 5-year-old reportedly displayed the loaded weapon outside the Blanton Elementary School cafeteria where students were gathered before class. The fifth-grader recognized it was real and took it to the principal.


A charge of making a firearm accessible to a child is a Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $500"



this is just freakin insane

 

[Foxtrot]

Pre-Kindergarden Student Brings Handgun to School

AUSTIN, Texas - A pre-kindergarten student brought a handgun to school, where it was seized by a fifth-grader and turned over to the principal, school district officials said Tuesday.

The 5-year-old reportedly displayed the loaded weapon outside the Blanton Elementary School cafeteria where students were gathered before class. The fifth-grader recognized it was real and took it to the principal.


A charge of making a firearm accessible to a child is a Class C misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $500"



this is just freakin insane

Accidents happen...

 

[CptStern]

I'm sure you wouldnt say that if it was a member of your family

 

[Ennui]

that's scary as hell. good for the responsible fifth grader, but it's terrifying to think of what could have happened... a loaded gun in the hands of a pre-kindergartener with little or no conception of the power of what he's got...

 

[short recoil]

It's the duty of a gun owner to keep his weapons away from children, the same goes with things like alcohol and tablets.

If you wan't guns and children at the same time then you must be prepared to invest in trigger locks (not a lot at all) or a gun safe (legal requirement in UK)

It is the parents responsibility to control what access their children have to tools like this.

 

[diluted]

But Jesus once said that every child shall carry a firearm at all times. So what you Jesus-hating tree-hugging gun-bashers are really saying is that you hate freedom.

/sarcasm

 

[CptStern]

no guns = no risk

 

[jverne]

kids these days!!

but if he brought it and showed it to his friends, he probably knew what it was (a weapon)!?

 

[short recoil]

no guns = no risk

Yeah but that is a silly childish way of thinking about it.....

No cars no risk!
No cigarettes no risk! (106,000 die per year in UK because of smoking, 340 die due to guns(99% criminal), more people die per smoker than per gun owner)
No Sun no risk of skin cancer! (oh shit what about energy!)

 

[Hapless]

no guns = no risk

If you don't like it, move to Cana....oh wait....never mind :cheese:

 

[Foxtrot]

no guns = no risk

no people = no risk

 

[Feath]

no people = no risk

No war-related board games = no Risk

 

[short recoil]

And theres also the fact you will NEVER have absolutley NO guns.
For the fact i could build one in a day in a workshop with no machine tools.
And it dosn't look like soceities protectors are going to be out of jobs and need for guns for a long time.

Hopefully when gun grabbers realise there are things that pose a lot more of a risk than guns do to their children that they will give up and hopefully have a go at the more dangerous things (more relavant)

Stops scraping away at the paint, cut the supports at the bottom!

EDIT:

No war-related board games = no Risk

Haha, great!

 

[Hapless]

No war-related board games = no Risk

zzziiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg

 

[Foxtrot]

No war-related board games = no Risk

no corny jokes = no spam

 

[qckbeam]

no corny jokes = no spam

I thought it was pretty good

 

[gh0st]

if you dont like guns dont buy one. if you do buy one for ****s sake be responsible.

 

[Feath]

no corny jokes = no spam

Leave me alone, it's the cleverest thing I've said all year.

 

[Hapless]

Leave me alone, it's the cleverest thing I've said all year.

Hear, hear!!

 

[Foxtrot]

Leave me alone, it's the cleverest thing I've said all year.

It was good...I just wanted to be cool too :bonce:

 

[Tr0n]

Oh god here we go again...

Stern the 2nd amendment is going to stay rather you like it or not.

if you dont like guns dont buy one. if you do buy one for ****s sake be responsible.

QFT.

 

[Laivasse]

Yeah but that is a silly childish way of thinking about it.....

No cars no risk!
No cigarettes no risk! (106,000 die per year in UK because of smoking, 340 die due to guns(99% criminal), more people die per smoker than per gun owner)
No Sun no risk of skin cancer! (oh shit what about energy!)

Cars - too convenient to get rid of, regardless of the loss of life they cause.
Cigarettes - make too much money for the government to get rid of, regardless of the loss of life they cause (that's right, they're not legal due to some high-blown notion of "personal freedom")
The Sun - supports all life on Earth, regardless of the fact that it is annoyingly hot.

Compared to those examples, guns have no strong argument for their availability other than to give people a misguided peace of mind.

With all things you must weigh up the reasons for their existence against the damage that they cause. So cars, cigarettes, and the Sun are teh win, but guns are teh fail.

no people = no risk

Now that's not a bad point...*begins formulating a plan...*

 

[Kebean PFC]

Maybe if his parents actually cared about him and kept the gun in a safe where it should be there would be no problem. Don't apply this label to all gun owners Stern, becuase it just is not true. Like it or not, the majority of gun owners in the US do keep thier guns unloaded, in a safe. This is just one incident where parental stupidity almost cuased loss of life.

 

[Foxtrot]

Maybe if his parents actually cared about him and kept the gun in a safe where it should be there would be no problem. Don't apply this label to all gun owners Stern, becuase it just is not true. Like it or not, the majority of gun owners in the US do keep thier guns unloaded, in a safe. This is just one incident where parental stupidity almost cuased loss of life.

How do you know he didn't keep it in a safe? Maybe he just accidently forgot to put it in, or maybe accidently didnt lock it, or accidently left the key out, there are too many possibilites and you just label him as not caring.

 

[gh0st]

Stern the 2nd amendment is going to stay rather you like it or not.
QFT.

tr0n, thats two qft's in as many days. I must be doing something right.

 

[short recoil]

Cars - too convenient to get rid of, regardless of the loss of life they cause.

Uh, yeah thats why i made the joke.

Cigarettes - make too much money for the government to get rid of, regardless of the loss of life they cause (that's right, they're not legal due to some high-blown notion of "personal freedom")

The Health service costs probably outweigh profits made on them.

The Sun - supports all life on Earth, regardless of the fact that it is annoyingly hot.

hehe, i don't know why you even bothered taking that one seriously.

Compared to those examples, guns have no strong argument for their availability other than to give people a misguided peace of mind.

We can argue reasons for and against guns until we are blue in the face, there have been quite a few threads on that here and it usually ends up a stale mate.

With all things you must weigh up the reasons for their existence against the damage that they cause. So cars, cigarettes, and the Sun are teh win, but guns are teh fail.

I think if you actually worked it out properly you would find guns definetley above cigarettes and probably on par with cars.

 

[qckbeam]

if you dont like guns dont buy one. if you do buy one for ****s sake be responsible.

QFT

I don't have anything to add. He's right.

 

[Tr0n]

tr0n, thats two qft's in as many days. I must be doing something right.

QFT

I don't have anything to add. He's right.

Make that 3.

 

[gh0st]

Yes! :cheese:

 

[jondy]

How do you know he didn't keep it in a safe? Maybe he just accidently forgot to put it in, or maybe accidently didnt lock it, or accidently left the key out, there are too many possibilites and you just label him as not caring.

If you own something like a gun, you take enough care not to let shit like this happen. If you don't take said care, you shouldn't own a gun.

 

[kirovman]

It is the parents responsibility to control what access their children have to tools like this.

Yeah, and I wouldn't rely on the other kid's parents being responsible enough to do that if my kids were in school.

Wouldn't send a kid off to school with the hope that "Oh, I'm sure all the other parents are responsible enough to make sure their kid didn't take the gun from the cabinet"

I don't believe in legalising guns, because I don't trust my neighbours with them.

 

[Steve]

If you wan't guns and children at the same time then you must be prepared to invest in trigger locks (not a lot at all) or a gun safe (legal requirement in UK)

Wait...I thought....UK...no guns...huh?

 

[PickledGecko]

Although I'm generally against guns, I do respect democracy and the US peoples right to have them. But $500 fine is a f*cking joke.

My view on crime and punishment regarding this case;

Doing something that puts lives at risk but doesn’t actually kill or injure anyone this time, should be punished the same as manslaughter. Just because you, say, didn’t hit anyone when you were drink driving doesn’t make you any less guilty than the guy who did hit someone. It’s the same crime, just different circumstances.

 

[Kangy]

Completely ridiculous. This is exactly why you cannot entrust the population with firearms. I don't even want to hear your "but what if the governments come for me??//" argument. The fact is that they aren't, and if they do, chances are you probably deserved it. I see no reason to own a firearm, and I seriously think those that do are either scared of the fact that everybody else can also own one, or they've really got problems upstairs.

A $500 fine? If they can let their loaded gun get into the hands of a 5 year old, they don't deserve to own it.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Completely ridiculous. This is exactly why you cannot entrust the population with firearms. I don't even want to hear your "but what if the governments come for me??//" argument. The fact is that they aren't, and if they do, chances are you probably deserved it. I see no reason to own a firearm, and I seriously think those that do are either scared of the fact that everybody else can also own one, or they've really got problems upstairs.

A $500 fine? If they can let their loaded gun get into the hands of a 5 year old, they don't deserve to own it.

I agree.... Specially on the $500 fine point...

I would have expected an incident like this to void the owners right to own the weapon. The fine is just plain stupidity in my eyes.


I never saw the point in owning a gun either. Except for hunting... I suppose thats acceptable....

 

[Solaris]

Personally I think some serious ass punishment is in order hear.

 

[Eg.]

rember, its not what the kid brings to school, its that fact that they are. banning guns wont solve the problem, because then you coudl bring a kitchen knife. what we really have to do is change society's carefree view on guns, and not restrict our current rights/


/does not want to go second amendment thread

 

[short recoil]

rember, its not what the kid brings to school, its that fact that they are. banning guns wont solve the problem, because then you coudl bring a kitchen knife. what we really have to do is change society's carefree view on guns, and not restrict our current rights/


/does not want to go second amendment thread

I cannot see a child being dangerous with a knife, the point it bringing in a LOADED gun, there isn't a problem if you keep a gun unloaded away seperate from ammo.

It isn't the fact that guns are availiable that is worth arguing here, it is the fact a kid got its hands on a loaded gun, which could harm another without realising.
While i agree adults should be allowed, they have judgement (well except for chavs) a child will simply not know what it is doing, a gun in a childs hands is a danger.

 

[Eg.]

yes a quick jab to the eye will do nothing to a 3rd grader. nothing at all. im arguing that we shouldnt be attack the weapon or item, but attacking the psychology behind it

"ill leave my gun in an easy to reach place, and i will never tell my kid that guns are bad without proper respect"

 

[kirovman]

A knife is quite frightening for a kid it is blatently visible how it could hurt someone, but guns just look like toys for a child.

"Hahaha, bang bang, I shot you!"

*bang*

I don't see the same situation arising with a knife, anyway to injure badly with a knife you have to be mentally and physically able, which I imagine a kid wouldn't be.
But it just takes a safety catch unlocked and a slippy finger on the trigger to do some serious damage with a gun.