the 2nd amendment in action: 5 yr old brings gun to school

i say again

"no a quick jab to the eye wont hurt you, even if the bone behind teh eye is egeshell thing"
 
Eg. said:
i say again

"no a quick jab to the eye wont hurt you, even if the bone behind teh eye is egeshell thing"
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No, i'm completely pro gun but i can't agree with that.

A knife requires physical strength to use and a child would feel "wrong" plunging a knife into another human.

With a gun it can think it's like a cartoon or something.
 
"look, im playing, im 5 years old, lets have a ninja fight!!!"
 
KoreBolteR said:
that wouldnt happen here in the UK..

cos guns are banned
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Hmm, I'm sure I saw a bit on one of the news programmes that showed a school in South Yorkshire that young kids (maybe not as young as five) have been caught bringing knives and guns into school. It was a segment on new powers for Head Teachers to search pupils for weapons.

They could have been referring to replica guns though.
 
So correct me if I'm wrong, but the arguement is that kids should be allowed to bring guns into school because other kids have knives?
 
kirovman said:
So correct me if I'm wrong, but the arguement is that kids should be allowed to bring guns into school because other kids have knives?
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That makes sense.
 
No the Solution is Banning guns, for you to draw a comparison between guns and knives is rediculous, that child could hae easily accedntally shot a child, not noing what the gun actually did. However it is alot more unlikeley that he would have stabbed someone. This 'right' is costing you lives, everyday.
 
No, the best solution is shutting up about it because guns ain't going away for a long time and neither is the 2nd amendment.
 
Tr0n said:
No, the best solution is shut shutting up about it because guns ain't going away for a long time and neither is the 2nd amendment.
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No, the best solution is to

wait, nvm.

youres is the best solution.
 
Foxtrot said:
Accidents happen...
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That's a remarkably flippant attitude to take. If the child had killed themselves or someone else by accident or (heaven forbid) otherwise, this would've been an unforgivable tragedy.
By the grace of God it wasn't, so you can't just say "Ho-hum, don't let it happen again"
You have to realise the magnitude of such a ridiculous situation and what a (relatively speaking) pathetic slap on the wrists that punishment is.

solaris152000 said:
No the Solution is Banning guns
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Sadly it's not that easy on the other side of the pond. It would be a dreadful idea, as it'd result in a civil war. Besides, there's too much revenue and political influence in the firearm industry for that to happen within our lifetimes, if ever.

...and so the world progresses.
 
el Chi said:
That's a remarkably flippant attitude to take. If the child had killed themselves or someone else by accident or (heaven forbid) otherwise, this would've been an unforgivable tragedy.
By the grace of God it wasn't, so you can't just say "Ho-hum, don't let it happen again"
You have to realise the magnitude of such a ridiculous situation and what a (relatively speaking) pathetic slap on the wrists that punishment is.

Sadly it's not that easy on the other side of the pond. It would be a dreadful idea, as it'd result in a civil war. Besides, there's too much revenue and political influence in the firearm industry for that to happen within our lifetimes, if ever.

...and so the world progresses.
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I fear that the criminal guns culture in the UK has some part to do with the guns culture of the USA. If noone was manufacturing guns for consumer use (only for military or special police) then the number of guns would drop over the years as noone could get hold of them, and the old ones became less realible and discarded.

I'm sure a very small proportion of illegal guns are actually manufactured here, the majority are smuggled from overseas.
 
no, im saying banning the item wont stop the problem, its the society and the way of thinking behind the weapon. if u ban guns then people will just cut eachother with knives, like in japan. its not the item, its the thinking that goes with it
 
kirovman said:
I fear that the criminal guns culture in the UK has some part to do with the guns culture of the USA.
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Undoubtedly so. As much as I hate to sound like a Daily Mail reader, I'm sure the violent bravado of America's gangland notoriety has a lot to do with the cause of our problems here.
The fact of the matter is that, for the most part, you only truly run the risk of getting shot if you get involved in all that in the first place. I'm not saying that makes it ok, but it's a generally-applicable fact that the sensationalist media is loathe to reporting.
As for solving the problem over here? I'm not sure how to be honest. They've brought in stricter measures and punishments (can't you get something like 3-5 years for possession?), but I don't think that'll go too far in clamping down. Although, we aren't sitting on a culture of evil gun fanatics and gang members. Remember the hand-gun amnesty after Dunblaine? I think that shows what people can be like - which is reassuring.

Eg. said:
no, im saying banning the item wont stop the problem, its the society and the way of thinking behind the weapon. if u ban guns then people will just cut eachother with knives, like in japan. its not the item, its the thinking that goes with it
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A fair point, but essentially you just said "Guns don't kill people, people do" which is a flimsy defence; it's far easier to kill someone with a gun than a knife.
 
Eg. said:
no, im saying banning the item wont stop the problem, its the society and the way of thinking behind the weapon. if u ban guns then people will just cut eachother with knives, like in japan. its not the item, its the thinking that goes with it
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I know that Japan has a very low crime rate, so I did a google search on "japan crime rate" and this is the first page that came up....

http://www.bookmice.net/darkchilde/japan/crime.html
 
KoreBolteR said:
then why dont we all look on how Japan tackles Crime and follow it.
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It's worth looking into it...

but I think it's a cultural thing more than anything.

Very passive in peacetime, with a brutal wartime record.
 
Still the matter remains, there is no need for guns in the USA. They server no good purpose, for civillians. Whoever let that child get hold of a gun, deserves IMO around 300hours community service, all weapons consficated and for them to no longer be able to own a gun. And their bed should be confiscated, just so they cannot sleep properly for a while.
 
the funny thing solaris is that if it happened in canada (and I suspect most of europe) that child would probably be taken away from his parents, as they are unfit because they put that child's life in jeopardy
 
I totally agree, on Micheals More bouling for columbine, it shows a woman who once supported the secound ammendment, but after her child was shot now objects to it, strongly.

Yes guns may be 'fun', but you can never know the devastating effect until it happens to you.
 
Just one little question for all the anti-gun folk... Have you ever shot a gun?
 
Yes, I have. I can easily see how you could miss and kill somebody who isn't a threat in a panic, life and death situation. Far too dangerous to entrust with people.
 
Do you drive a car? I have been in more automobile accidents, near-accidents, and witness to accidents than any gun related accidents. Why shouldn't we ban automobiles?

With great freedom comes great responsibility. Guns are a great freedom and I know that many people are not responsible enough to own them. But should the whole be punished based on the actions of a few.

Guns are always portrayed as evil. What about the many people who have been saved because they were able to use a gun to defend themselves?
 
Cars serve the purpose of travel from A-B.

Also a car isn't going to kill you when you're lying in bed at home.
 
Well it won't save your life either, but a gun could.

And actually... with the recent rise of old people crashing into buildings, you may be killed by a car while your lying in bed.
 
Guns are great for self-defense. Getting your house robbed? I'm sure a 12 gauge will put a stop too it. But if you can't keep track of your weapons, or you little kid, than you don't deserve to have one.
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
And actually... with the recent rise of youths shooting up schools, you may be killed with a gun while you're studying.
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Changed :)
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
Well it won't save your life either, but a gun could.

And actually... with the recent rise of old people crashing into buildings, you may be killed by a car while your lying in bed.
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I don't believe we have that problem here. We make old people take regular tests after the age of 70, to make sure they are able to drive still.

Although we do have the strictest driving tests in the world... I think.
 
Dag said:
Guns are great for self-defense. Getting your house robbed? I'm sure a 12 gauge will put a stop too it. But if you can't keep track of your weapons, or you little kid, than you don't deserve to have one.
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so how often have you had to pull your gun in self-defense? it's far more likely that you'll be killed by an aquaintance than a perfect stranger ...so there goes that justification out the window


"24.4 percent of victims were murdered by strangers, and 75.6 percent of the victims knew their assailants."


source
 
CptStern said:
so how often have you had to pull your gun in self-defense? it's far more likely that you'll be killed by an aquaintance than a perfect stranger ...so there goes that justification out the window


"24.4 percent of victims were murdered by strangers, and 75.6 percent of the victims knew their assailants."


source
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Twice. Aquaintance threatening my life, Stranger threatening my life. I'll pull the trigger either way, because they are endagering my life. So there goes that justification.
 
Dag said:
Twice. Aquaintance threatening my life, Stranger threatening my life. I'll pull the trigger either way, because they are endagering my life. So there goes that justification.
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hmmm time to move to a new neighbourhood ...I wonder if they were actually threratening your life or if you only percieved that


"hey dag, how's it going old chum"

dag: "are you threatening me?" * pulls gun *


the very fact that you needed to pull your gun tells me one thing: there are too many guns in the US :)


btw did you shoot them? seems like you did from what you're saying
 
CptStern said:
hmmm time to move to a new neighbourhood ...I wonder if they were actually threratening your life or if you only percieved that


"hey dag, how's it going old chum"

dag: "are you threatening me?" * pulls gun *


the very fact that you needed to pull your gun tells me one thing: there are too many guns in the US :)


btw did you shoot them? seems like you did from what you're saying
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What happens when you pull the trigger? The gun shoots. So if I pulled the trigger in self-defense, that tells you that I shot the person.
 
bodacious? ......nah it couldnt be .............or could it?







anyways, did they die? did they get charged with assualting you? what were the circumstances? hmmm I'm probably older than you and I've never been in that situation ..so either it's very dangerous where you live, or you're just looking for trouble
 
Of course they got charged. Using a knife to attack someone usually is considered assualt. No, they didn't die, but they will always have a reminder. Of course, I guess thats what I get for living near construction sites. Maybe if you had lived where I do, or been in the situation I had been, you would have just a tad different view of gun control.
 
We had a situation recently where a guy walked into a lady's house and before he could get a sentence out, she pointed a gun at him and he ran out of the house. Me and the guy I was training caught him and his buddy. The buddy told us the guy who walked in the house was planning to rob the lady until she pulled the gun on him. I'm pretty certain this was the same guy who has been doing this all over town recently, especially since they have stopped while the guy is in jail. The other ones were the same MO, guy walks in or forces his way in to a house with a lone female, usually elderly, and robs her. If she hadn't had the gun, who knows what would have happened. This was in a pretty decent neighborhood, to boot.
 
Dag said:
Of course they got charged. Using a knife to attack someone usually is considered assualt. No, they didn't die, but they will always have a reminder. Of course, I guess thats what I get for living near construction sites. Maybe if you had lived where I do, or been in the situation I had been, you would have just a tad different view of gun control.
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simple fix: move to a safer area ...oh and do you usually carry your gun or were you on duty?
 
kirovman said:
Also a car isn't going to kill you when you're lying in bed at home.
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Oh kirov, how sweet and naiive you are. These cars nowadays have no respect for their elders or anyone else in society. I was on the street the other day, I saw a group of Smart cars shunting this poor little old Ford Cortena.
And when Smart cars turn bad you KNOW something's wrong with the world.
 
What is wrong with you guys?
You make it seem as if guns have a life of their own.

I do not know why people think "a gun kills people", i have seen it an unbelievable amount of times.

On the gun control network website i remember reading a comment which was something like "we must stop guns being manufactured, otherwise guns will continue to spread around the globe causing destruction and death"
It is no longer the possesion of a gun that is deemed evil, it is the guns themselves.
Advertising standards now ban adverts containing guns if they get just a handful of complaints.
"OMG I SAW A GUN!" ....."I WAS TRAUMATISED"

It is truely pathetic.
 
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