The beauty of Catholic teachings

[Sulkdodds]

Deism is okay in my books, since it's really just atheism with god somewhere in the universe taking an invisble nap for the rest of eternity.

Er, what if you think that the universe is so huge and impossibly beautful and beautifully complex and beautifully impossible that it might as well be/IS God - that's not 'for all we know, it could be' but 'IS' God? In the end, you talk about God, what are you talking about? A big man in a white beard? No. God is in everything. You are talking about everything. Love it.

I haven't explained that properly so it sounds stupid, overconvenient and wishy-washy. **** ya'll.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Problems with catholicism:

1 - People like Pat Robertson and the Pope do extremely stupid shit and no other catholics do anything about it.

Pat Roberston is a Protestant Southern Baptist, not a Catholic.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I've always seen it as the ancient Mongols did - all religions see different aspects of the same god. Although, Deism states that god has little to no influence on our reality/dimension/other thing. Although, Jesus existed and might have been METAL.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[DeusExMachina]

There is a new group called the "Universists Movement" who seek to unite all freethinkers whether they be atheist, agnostic, deist, pantheist, transcendentalists, and the like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universism

 

[Angry Lawyer]

"Deist" sounds better than "Universist" in the same way that "Whiskey Conniseur" sounds better than "Alcoholic"

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Well there is a slight difference.

-In agnosticism, you acknowledge that there is absolutely no evidence of god, but believe he's there anyways in ways that are incomprehenisble.

-In deism, you acknowledge that there is absolutely no evidence of god, and attribute that lack of evidence to his taking vacation since the big bang.

-In athiesm, you acknowledge that there is absolutely no evidence of god, and use that to conclude that he does not exist.

In other religions, you don't acknowledge the lack of evidence.

My first impression of Universism is that it's dumb.
Although deism and agnosticism are secular, they are still religions to an extent. Atheism is the odd man out.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I always thought it was:

In Agnosticism, you acknowledge that there is absolutely no evidence of god, but won't rule out the possibility.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[DeusExMachina]

Well there is a slight difference.

In agnosticism, you acknowledge that there is absolutely no evidence of god, but believe he's there anyways in ways that are incomprehenisble.

What? Agnosticism is the belief that it is unknown whether a God exists or not. Agnostic-Theists are what you're thinking of (Or Agnostic-Deists).

EDIT: Lawyer's got it about right.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Well then it really is identical to atheism then, except weaker in the evidence stance.

Pat Roberston is a Protestant Southern Baptist, not a Catholic.

Well he is still the leader of the Christian Coalition, which is mostly catholic.

 

[DeusExMachina]

...Speaking off of topic, who even bumped this topic back up?

 

[Apos]

Er, what if you think that the universe is so huge and impossibly beautful and beautifully complex and beautifully impossible that it might as well be/IS God - that's not 'for all we know, it could be' but 'IS' God? In the end, you talk about God, what are you talking about? A big man in a white beard? No. God is in everything. You are talking about everything. Love it.

I haven't explained that properly so it sounds stupid, overconvenient and wishy-washy. **** ya'll.

This view is actually a well known philosophy called: pantheist.

you can read more about it here, on the website of a prominent pantheist:
http://www.omnifarious.org/~eljay/religion.html

 

[Apos]

Well he is still the leader of the Christian Coalition, which is mostly catholic.

Er, what? Robertson's group is Protestant, and the sect of Protestants that have traditionally not had good relations with Catholics.