The Big Bang or God?

[_Z_Ryuken]

Gravity doesn't pull. Gravity is mass that's bending space-time.

The issue here is objects attracting objects and whether it's spacetime or gravitons or as I feel something more the nature of magnetism is irrelevant. (I'm not saying they are related just that they act similarly.)

A 'gravity field'?

Gravity has a feild of effect which explains why you think...

Gravity is variable.

Gravity weakens as you get further from the source. Same with every other form of energy. This doesn't make it variable this makes it varying. Gravity accellerates mass at a very constant speed depending on mass.

No it doesn't, I find it ****ing hilarious that you think THAT disproves everything physicists have come to understand about gravity.

I admit that was a bit of a stretch but gravity isn't your mom I don't see why you are getting so bent out of shape here.

 

[Tyguy]

Gravity is acceleration, though acceleration is not always gravity as you are stating here.

Thing is though, if you were to suddenly enter a gravity feild, you wouldn't feel anything because the constant of gravity would pull equally on you and the elevator. If the elevator were somehow tethered so it would not move, you would not know the difference. I just think that proves gravity is a controlled and very constant form of acceleration.

I don't see how people can have trouble imagining it. It's basically like magnetism, though it affects all matter and energies, and is somewhat weaker yet has a much wider field of operation.

Oh by the way,
in the beginning,
there was nothing,
then God exploded.

Besides the fact that this isnt true, you're missing the point of the example....

 

[Stigmata]

Just to clarify, gravity isn't a "field" per se, it's a stretching/warping of the space-time dimensions that we exist in. You don't "enter" and "leave" an object's gravity field, you simply move between places where said object exerts high or low gravitic forces on you.

 

[Shift]

Why are talking about gravity?

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Because.

 

[Tyguy]

because without gravity, there wouldn't be any books about gravity....

(i said that when i was high in college)

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Just to clarify, gravity isn't a "field" per se, it's a stretching/warping of the space-time dimensions that we exist in. You don't "enter" and "leave" an object's gravity field, you simply move between places where said object exerts high or low gravitic forces on you.

Gravity is not omnipresent. There is a point at which an objects gravitic force wains and becomes nothing (indetectable), and for all intents and purposes because gravity is theorized to be extradimensional we can call it a field.

Also,
field:
8. an expanse of anything: a field of ice.
9. any region characterized by a particular feature, resource, activity, etc.: a gold field.

12. Physics. the influence of some agent, as electricity or gravitation, considered as existing at all points in space and defined by the force it would exert on an object placed at any point in space. Compare electric field, gavitational field, magnetic field.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=field

 

[Omega11]

There is always a but... There is a being on another level to our plane - it is that {in my mind} created the big bang. After you get past the BB it begins to be "then what made the Big Bang?"

Chemical reaction? Dimensional Rift? ETC? DO you really have to know?

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Chemicals wouldn't have existed at that point. If they did, they wouldn't be powerful enough to do anything. I don't believe in dimensional rifts leading to alternate universes. Sounds too optimistic and far fetched.

The way my mind explains it is that if the big bang or whatever it was didn't "happen" there would be nothing and pure nothing is an impossibility. I think the universe was born out of it's own will.

I have also thought our universe is just an explosion, not unlike a firecracker. We may very well be a firecracker in some ultra universe that is just too expansive to see. The explosion isn't happening slowly, we are just living extremely quickly in relation.

 

[Omega11]

But if we were a Firecrakcer, I could relate us to the SMG in halo

Sorry, I see your point, except the last bit, it would make sense that we are a small 'firecracker' in a Mega Verse or something, but I think the explosion is still happening... actually, maybe we are moving fast in comparison :S

 

[Jack Thomas]

Religion gives hope I guess and science gives us an opportunity to explain something in a way which we can comprehend. God is supposed to be a superior being who we cannot comprehend.

But this will turn out to be a endless discussion imo.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein

Wise man. Sorry if someone already posted that quote.

 

[Stigmata]

Gravity is not omnipresent. There is a point at which an objects gravitic force wains and becomes nothing (indetectable), and for all intents and purposes because gravity is theorized to be extradimensional we can call it a field.

For all intents and purposes it becomes nonexistant, yes, but mathematically that gravitational force never fully disappears. Stigmata 1, Z_Ryuken many-more-than-1.

 

[Absinthe]

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein

Albert Einstein is notorious for his use of religiously embellished metaphors to explain his passion for science.

 

[brink's]

But this will turn out to be a endless discussion imo.

It took you four hundred replies to realize that lol

 

[Jack Thomas]

It took you four hundred replies to realize that lol

Yes

EDIT : I just meant that some people have their strong beliefs in certain things and ie. I dont think any of us is yet ready to go and say which opinion is right and wrong about this matter.

I myself just try and balance between science and religion. If something can be scientifically explained and certificated then I believe its right. If something cannot be, then I dont close the chance of a possible miracle away.

I just wish to stay ''neutral'' in this topic if its possible.

 

[Biohazurd]

Honestly in my personal opinion There is no way that this earth and this universe was created without the help of a higher power. I dont care if you agree with me or not or call me stupid or whatever i have my beliefs and NO ONE can change that. Thank you.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

I agree if you consider the nuclear, magnetic and that "G" word higher
powers.

I'm certainly not going to argue with you if you think the universe was born out of a form of intelligence. I do believe that kind of intelligence is far beyond our comprehension.

Did that intelligence have human features? Hell no. Is it watching over us? Not in the way we might think.

I totally agree, for if the universe was born of a cataclysmic chaos it would have remained as such.

 

[Jintor]

It's funny because we have to think in human terms in order to get anything. Everything eventually ends up as metaphors.

I am well aware that this can be incredibly misconstruted am and looking forwards to the fun you shall have with this.