the death penalty is barbaric

what do you think of capital punishment (death penalty)?

  • It's wrong

    Votes: 42 56.0%

  • It's right

    Votes: 19 25.3%

  • undecided.

    Votes: 14 18.7%
  • Total voters
    75
Didn't bother reading the article because I already know it's true. Capital punishment is probably my strongest political ideal.
 
It's pretty appalling that the article revolves around the guy's alleged mental illness, as if murdering a man over some fucking chemicals would be any less barbaric in absence of that illness.
 
Gotta love how commonwealth nations defend their own citizens.
 
In most cases I don't agree with capital punishment. Some exceptions though. I didn't disagree with the hanging of Saddam Hussein for example.
 
I say that a death sentence is far more humane than a life sentence, so it's not the worst thing to do.
Edit: I marked "undecided".
 
I find it acceptable in the most heinous and horrible of crimes.
 
I wouldn't say the death penalty is barbaric, for if the person accused of a crime receives a lethal injection, he will not feel any pain whatsoever, to my understanding. But, I would say it's unnecessary to kill someone unless they have committed a horrific act of violence upon a number of people. The truth is, though, killing someone won't bring the victim or victims back to life. What has already been done can not be undone, and that's the unfortunate way of life as we know it.
 
I reckon people on the death penalty should be in complete solitude and have the option of killng themselves; a pistol should be dropped from overhead and the prisoner should be given a choice of a fast death or slow death,
 
Or option three: painstakingly laborious mental calculations to determine the precise angle and location of a single shot that will kill the guard and knock the cell key right between the bars of your cell.
 
I just can't see how the death penalty is ever just. Killing the criminal will never bring justice to the victim's family or the world. It seems more of an act of revenge more than anything else.

When prisons hold those public execution, it seems like they're attempting to show that the world really is black and white, good and evil, where it is most definitely not.
 
Stigmata said:
This is nowhere near specific enough. Explain.
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Well when the PIRA were at war with Britian, the catholic communities refused to co-operate with the police as they were seen as instruments of Britian.

The PIRA generally policed their own community instead dispensing kneecappings and executions against very serious criminals. Such as rapists, paedophiles, murderer's etc...

Whilst it's regrettable, the PIRA couldn't operate prisons for obvious reasons.

Sadly, at the moment it's been revealed one of the brothers of Gerry Adams, (who was a senior PIRA/Sinn Fein man) was in fact a paedophile who raped his own daughter repeatedly. Gerry Adams knew this and did nothing, when what he should have done as he told others to do, was to report it to the PIRA who would probably have executed the rapist.
 
DEATH eVADER said:
I reckon people on the death penalty should be in complete solitude and have the option of killng themselves; a pistol should be dropped from overhead and the prisoner should be given a choice of a fast death or slow death,
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That's not the best idea. The prisoner could miscalculate the shot of the bullet, causing him immense pain instead of instant death, which would be quite horrific.
 
Captain M4d said:
I just can't see how the death penalty is ever just. Killing the criminal will never bring justice to the victim's family or the world. It seems more of an act of revenge more than anything else.

When prisons hold those public execution, it seems like they're attempting to show that the world really is black and white, good and evil, where it is most definitely not.
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Here, it's used as a deterrent.
 
i am for the death penalty, just not for the methods we currently use.
 
Please, show us evidence of how effective it is as a deterrent.
 
I'm on the fence with this one. On one hand I hate the fact that a human life was wasted. I for one would allow lets say a mass murderer to be executed and his/her organs harvested or medically tested to help humanity. Also put yourselves in the victims seat. Lets say your wife was brutally stabbed along with your children and you were taped up and had to watch the entire tragedy. I'm pretty sure your stance might change if you were a victim in the matter or a family member/friend was involved in the crime. Also this reminds me of the Riddick movies, lets just make a prison colony and see where that goes
 
Eejit said:
Please, show us evidence of how effective it is as a deterrent.
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i suppose they feel that the line between being in prison and being dead is a large one...i can definitely see it being a deterrent.

Warped said:
I for one would allow lets say a mass murderer to be executed and his/her organs harvested or medically tested to help humanity.
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That would be practical but the ethical and moral issues would never subside.

"good news mr. evans, we have found you a heart."
"That's great!!!"
"ya, one thing...the guy who owned this heart had intercourse with livestock for over 20 years"

ok, might not be the conversation i'm referring to...you get the idea.

Warped said:
Also put yourselves in the victims seat. Lets say your wife was brutally stabbed along with your children and you were taped up and had to watch the entire tragedy. I'm pretty sure your stance might change if you were a victim in the matter or a family member/friend was involved in the crime.
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well i mean, how brutal?..if he's like just inching it in i'd at least appreciate the fact that he was be polite about it.
 
I barley trust any government with running a country let alone deciding who may live and die.
 
Barbaric yes, but necessary barbarism. The world economy can barely afford to support a prison populace is it is. So long as the proper evidence is presented so nobody innocent is put down though or if the criminal is caught red-handed. (D.C. sniper incident)

I don't like the idea of inviting families of victims in to watch executions though. A little ounce of last minute dignity is all I can spare for remorseless killers and child rapists.

Tyguy said:
if we brought back gladiators we could pay off the deficit with the gambling involved.
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Running Man.

Captain M4d said:
I just can't see how the death penalty is ever just. Killing the criminal will never bring justice to the victim's family or the world. It seems more of an act of revenge more than anything else.

When prisons hold those public execution, it seems like they're attempting to show that the world really is black and white, good and evil, where it is most definitely not.
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Obvious, "killing serial killers won't bring back the victim's lost loved ones" meme is obvious.

Rather I look at it as no more innocent casualties. However, with the US's death penalty, it's like 10 years or so of taxpayer mooching before a death row innmate is put down even if there's no case to argue whether or not they are innocent. If there's no red tape, whack em' sell their organs to science, and move on.

If anything, capital punishment in our country is simply too inefficient.
 
If you take the life of multiple other humans, why should you be able to keep yours? As for it being inhumane, how many serial killers/mass murderers killed their victims with lethal injection with no pain?
 
Apparently 72% of world's executions take place in China. 68 offences can draw the capital punishment. These are the figures that put the state of Texas to shame. And also the fact that China hanged a mentally challenged guy. I'm more concerned how many innocent Chinese or Chinese arrested for trivial offences got the hangman treatment. The fact that only because a commonwealth citizen got hung made the international community serious about this issue is sad.
 
Tyguy said:
i suppose they feel that the line between being in prison and being dead is a large one...i can definitely see it being a deterrent.
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I would copy/paste the definition of 'evidence' here, but I feel it's unnecessary. Long story short, the numbers typically indicate that there is virtually no difference. And even if it did, preventing a handful of deaths as a deterrent would hardly justify its use, atleast to me.
 
Corp. Sheepo said:
I would copy/paste the definition of 'evidence' here, but I feel it's unnecessary. Long story short, the numbers typically indicate that there is virtually no difference. And even if it did, preventing a handful of deaths as a deterrent would hardly justify its use, atleast to me.
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ya but what are numbers but a long string of arbitrary digits?
 
Um, statistical evidence? If you're trying to say we shouldn't give in to compromising our ideals based on the possible practical effects, I would consider it, but I think you're on the wrong side of the debate to be doing that.
 
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