UK's dangerous cartoons act

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Nice, troll. But here's a biscuit:

I play military shooters, where I kill enemy combatants in greatly realistic fashion, in full interactive 3D.

Here's a steak:

I've played GTA, where I get rewarded for murdering innocent people.

Here's a dessert:

Both fulfil fantasies I sometimes have.
 
No Limit said:
No, because I'm not a sick **** and wouldn't even know where to find it. But you know exactly what I mean. So can you answer the question?
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I'll answer the question once you show some credibility and substantiate your paranoia by providing an example of what it is you fear. Because I've surfed the net for a long time and seen some pretty heinous shit, but I've never seen anything close to an accurate, photorealistic depiction of child fucking. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I think you're reaching.
 
No Limit said:
I watch porn because I like to have sex with women. By watching porn that desire doesn't go away and I continue to hunt for sex. What makes you think someone that gets off on little children works differently? eventually they will try to fulfil their fantasies and innocent children will get hurt.
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Slow down, sonny. You say you 'continue to hunt for sex' and I'm assuming this means dating women, and trying to get them to have sex with you. Not raping them. This is because trying to have sex with women is a socially acceptable and legal thing. It's not wrong. It's not immoral (for most people).

Ask yourself the question you just asked. What makes you think someone that gets off on little children works differently?

Why do you think a pedophile lacks any sense of right and wrong, and will do anything to **** a child? This is exactly why I get so pissed off at people like you. You think all pedophiles are monsters who will do anything to have sex with a child. Like being attracted to children automatically means they are okay with harming children, and breaking the law, and doing something so terrible to an innocent human.

Do you get it, now? Do you see how ****ing ignorant you are?
 
Viperidae said:
Nice, troll. But here's a biscuit:

I play games that fill out militaristic shooters, where I kill enemy combatants, and where there is great potential collateral damage to civilians.

Here's a steak:

I've played GTA, where I get rewarded for murdering innocent people.

Here's a dessert:

Both fulfill fantasies of mine.
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None of that is sexual in nature. You kill people in GTA because it's fun, you don't do it because you have a sexual attraction to dead hookers. You simply think it's funny. Now if you are sitting there jerking it as you are beating the shit out of the hooker then you would have a point.
 
Vegeta897 said:
Slow down, sonny. You say you 'continue to hunt for sex' and I'm assuming this means dating women, and trying to get them to have sex with you. Not raping them. This is because trying to have sex with women is a socially acceptable and legal thing. It's not wrong. It's not immoral (for most people).

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What's legal and not legal has nothing to do with it. Sexual attractions are very strong. That's why you have republicans that have preached how homosexuality is wrong all their life ending up trying to have gay sex at air ports. That's why Tiger Woods was willing to blow off everything he has worked for including his family because he wanted to have sex with as many women as possible.

These desires are not stopped by what's moral and not moral, eventually these people will try to act them out.

What I meant with the part about hunting for sex is that just because I watched porn my desire to have sex with women doesn't go away.

And Im sorry that I don't have a lot of compassion for people that get turned on by little children. Yeah, I guess that makes me very ignorant.
 
No Limit said:
What's legal and not legal has nothing to do with it. Sexual attractions are very strong. That's why you have republicans that have preached how homosexuality is wrong ending up trying to have gay sex at air ports. That's why Tiger Woods was willing to blow off everything he has worked for including his family because he wanted to have sex with as many women as possible.

These desires are not stopped by what's moral and not moral, eventually these people will try to act them out.

What I meant with the part about hunting for sex is that just because I watched porn my desire to have sex with women doesn't go away.
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Are you saying nobody cares about the law? What are you talking about.

I guess I have to walk you through this, holy shit.

What if no girl consents to have sex with you, No Limit? What are you going to do? Start raping women? No? Why not?

The answer is the same answer a pedophile would give when asked why he doesn't go out raping children.
 
No Limit said:
None of that is sexual in nature. You kill people in GTA because it's fun, you don't do it because you have a sexual attraction to dead hookers. You simply think it's funny. Now if you are sitting there jerking it as you are beating the shit out of the hooker then you would have a point.
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There's no limit to your inability to understand counterpoints.

I give up.
 
Absinthe said:
I'll answer the question once you show some credibility and substantiate your paranoia by providing an example of what it is you fear. Because I've surfed the net for a long time and seen some pretty heinous shit, but I've never seen anything close to an accurate, photorealistic depiction of child fucking. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I think you're reaching.
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Lets just pretend it's out there. Final Fantasy movie quality 3D renderings of little children performing sexual acts. Do you think that's normal? Should it be legal?
 
No Limit said:
Usually you are a lot more rational when you make arguments. You know as well as I do what 3D programs are capable of these days. We are not talking about stick figures drawin in paint, and you know that.
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And so what? I don't care if they manage to create impossible-to-tell-from-real renders of nekkid kids, in fact: good, perhaps that will stop them from trying to make the real thing and harming real children. These are not people I wanna hang out with if I knew, but until they harm actual, living, breathing human beings, you're just playing crazy irrational mind-police.

If you truly want to defend this absolutely insanely bullshit law, or any other kind of legislation on motherfucking drawings, you'll have to explain to me how you can possibly outlaw drawing sex with children and not outlaw games in which you shoot people.

No Limit said:
Do you think that's normal?
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No.

Should it be legal?
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Of course, Jesus H. Christ.
 
Viperidae said:
There's no limit to your inability to understand counterpoints.

I give up.
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I understood your "counter point" very well. You said that killing people in GTA because it's funny is just as innocent as being sexually attracted to little kids.

What did I get wrong about that?
 
No Limit said:
Lets just pretend it's out there. Final Fantasy movie quality 3D renderings of little children performing sexual acts. Do you think that's normal? Should it be legal?
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Yes, I would be more disturbed by people who get off on photorealistic depictions of child molestation. Luckily for you, we are far away from that point. It might actually be a good thing since it would be a viable substitute for actual child molestation.

Should it be legal? It might be pretty grotesque, but no minor is being violated. Although I'm sure such a realistic portrayal of the act would require reference materials, which would then make it illegal if you wanted to look at it more practically.
 
No Limit said:
I understood your "counter point" very well. You said that killing people in GTA because it's funny is just as innocent as being sexually attracted to little kids.

What did I get wrong about that?
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more over the American Psychiatric Association classifies pedophilia as a mental disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders

virtually killing people in GTA is not



Absinthe said:
Yes, I would be more disturbed by people who get off on photorealistic depictions of child molestation. Luckily for you, we are far away from that point
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Absinthe said:
Yes, I would be more disturbed by people who get off on photorealistic depictions of child molestation. Luckily for you, we are far away from that point. It might actually be a good thing since it would be a viable substitute for actual child molestation.

Should it be legal? It might be pretty grotesque, but no minor is being violated. Although I'm sure such a realistic portrayal of the act would require reference materials, which would then make it illegal if you wanted to look at it more practically.
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But are we that far away from the point? It all boils down to the same argument. Again, I don't know the details of this perticular law, I just kind of walked in to this conversation today cause nothing else was going on. So I'm not concentrating on the specific law that is talked about at the beginning of this thread, I am talking about the principle.

So you have this guy that likes to see realistic depictions of children getting raped or molested. There is something seriously wrong with this person, I'm glad we all agree on that. It really is just a matter of time before this guy goes out and tries to do something sick to a child, he has a mental disorder that makes him attracted to little kids. He can not fix that. And if you know this you ignore it because he hasn't molsted a kid yet? I don't know how you would work that in to a legal framework but to ignore something like that seems very wrong to me.
 
CptStern said:
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Not quite.

No Limit, I see what you're saying. But if nothing else, I'd rather err on the side of maintaining personal freedom rather than criminalize a large group of people just in case one of them might start preying on minors. For lack of more time to think this through, I have to leave it at that.
 
Vegeta897 said:
Are you saying nobody cares about the law? What are you talking about.

I guess I have to walk you through this, holy shit.

What if no girl consents to have sex with you, No Limit? What are you going to do? Start raping women? No? Why not?

The answer is the same answer a pedophile would give when asked why he doesn't go out raping children.
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I missed this earlier. You seem really offended by this, I hope you aren't one of Viperidae buddies.

What if no girl consents? well sucks for me. But I am going to be making the advances anyway, it's in my nature. Grown women can consent, that's what age of consent is all about. These assholes will make the same advances toward children, and children don't have the capability to resist these advances since a lot of times they aren't even aware of them. Oh and no, I wouldn't rape anyone. Rape or the idea of it doesn't get me off.
 
I don't know where I am in regards to this issue. Ideally I'd like to see some viable evidence that this stuff either provokes or reduces child rape but obviously such studies are next to impossible...accurate ones at least.

If we somehow got sufficient evidence that this child porn crap actually reduced harm to children, I'd be all for letting these mentally ill people get their rocks off in the seclusion of their own home.

However, I do think the relationship between that and video game violence in regards to real world situations is a valid comparison, in some respect.
 
Tyguy said:
However, I do think the relationship between that and video game violence in regards to real world situations is a valid comparison, in some respect.
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But that's simply not the case. You don't drive in to civilians in a video game because you like killing people. You do it for the shock value.

When a guy gets turned on by little kids then that's something that is a permanent mental disorder. And he will try to act on it eventually once an opportunity presents itself.
 
No Limit said:
But that's simply not the case. You don't drive in to civilians in a video game because you like killing people. You do it for the shock value.

When a guy gets turned on by little kids then that's something that is a permanent mental disorder. And he will try to act on it eventually once an opportunity presents itself.
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That's a valid point as long as we can agree that pedophilia is always a mental disorder...which I believe it is.
 
no he's from the muppets. the ugly guy above him is vegeta I think
 
Does #1 look anything like #2?
If so you are delusional.

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DEATHMASTER said:
Does #1 look anything like #2?
If so you are delusional.

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Will #2 really be made illegal under this law? Still even people that jerk it to #2 would creep me out, that's some weird shit. I don't know if I would lock them up though.
 
No Limit said:
Will #2 really be made illegal under this law? Still even people that jerk it to #2 would creep me out, that's some weird shit. I don't know if I would lock them up though.
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I don't think #2 is explicitly stated under the law, however I can assure you they'll figure out a way to lock you up anyway. Since it's drawings of potentially underage children having sexual intercourse you'll want more than that. And it's much easier to find than actual CP, and more widespread, especially on Japanese sites.
 
Acepilotf14 said:
I don't think #2 is explicitly stated under the law, however I can assure you they'll figure out a way to lock you up anyway. Since it's drawings of potentially underage children having sexual intercourse you'll want more than that. And it's much easier to find than actual CP, and more widespread, especially on Japanese sites.
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So you are just making an assumption that eventually they'll find a loophole to get you for #2? That doesn't sound very realistic to me.
 
No Limit said:
So you have this guy that likes to see realistic depictions of children getting raped or molested. There is something seriously wrong with this person, I'm glad we all agree on that. It really is just a matter of time before this guy goes out and tries to do something sick to a child, he has a mental disorder that makes him attracted to little kids. He can not fix that. And if you know this you ignore it because he hasn't molsted a kid yet? I don't know how you would work that in to a legal framework but to ignore something like that seems very wrong to me.
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I was going to say that it's absurd to call it 'a matter of time', but it's technically true. One of those matters of 'no such thing as quitting, just people who die before they eventually relapse', which actually applies to people who aren't pedophiles when you think about it. But anyway, that's beside the point. I just can't believe you think it's inconcievable that a pedophile with a consience and who understands that his actions affect people just can't help himself. People die virgins. People stay closeted homosexuals their entire life. I would say it's fair that this material probably will push some people to do things, but I feel in most cases this provides responsible sick people with the means to have a decent life, and not having it would probably cause them to do something rash without understanding it.
 
No Limit said:
Will #2 really be made illegal under this law? Still even people that jerk it to #2 would creep me out, that's some weird shit. I don't know if I would lock them up though.
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My point was do they look anything like real children? I think the answer is no. Being a pervert to #2 would not mean you're a pervert to #1 AND vice versa.
 
KineticAesthetic said:
Pulling out the "Oh look the DSM says you're crazy if you do it" card doesn't really work. Because that manual is all over the place - especially as it used to include homosexuality as a mental disorder.
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not to be homphobic or offend anyone but exactly how is it not?
 
Willsmith.fan said:
not to be homphobic or offend anyone but exactly how is it not?
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Yeah. I always thought homosexuality was a mental disorder and people should be institutionalized to protect themselves.

Also, this thread is stupid. **** your freedoms, lets ban everything - Loli, Yaoi (homosexual hentai), etc.. Heck, let's ban pornography as well, because pornography is for sad sick ****s.



I'm proud that so many of you sound like me. :p
 
15357 said:
Yeah. I always thought homosexuality was a mental disorder and people should be institutionalized to protect themselves.

Also, this thread is stupid. **** your freedoms, lets ban everything - Loli, Yaoi (homosexual hentai), etc.. Heck, let's ban pornography as well, because pornography is for sad sick ****s.



I'm proud that so many of you sound like me. :p
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We should ban forums too, and video games, and alcohol, oh! all those drugs too, even the good ones, they can be used to OD! And art, let's ban that too, we wouldn't want anyone to get offended. How about public displays of affection? Yeah!
 
Acepilotf14 said:
We should ban forums too, and video games, and alcohol, oh! all those drugs too, even the good ones, they can be used to OD! And art, let's ban that too, we wouldn't want anyone to get offended. How about public displays of affection? Yeah!
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Yeah! Have you seen those sick freaks that *shudder* hold each others' hands in public? Ugh... They really need to be institutionalized. They're all a potential danger to the community.
 
They might spread diseases. It's disgusting. Why can't they just do that in private where they won't offend or get people sick?

Not to mention.. oh it makes me sick just thinking about it.. homosexual public displays of affection.
 
Gays totally created these dangerous cartoons in the first place. They're the originators of all moral corruption. Well, the ones with bad AIDS anyway.
 
Banimal would be so ****ing angry at you guys. How is this still going?
 
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