United Church of Canada boycotts war profiteers in israel

[CptStern]

The United Church of Canada's Toronto branch will today unveil a boycott of Israeli products and companies doing business with its military to end what it calls the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands.

The move comes on the heels of a similar controversial move by the Ontario wing of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, which last month voted to support an international boycott campaign against Israel to protest its treatment of Palestinian refugees.

"This is not a boycott against Israel," Combs said, adding that only occupied-territory products are to be targeted. "We affirm the right of Israel to exist."

The group also wants the church and its members to divest from companies supplying the Israeli military

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...rticle&cid=1151445022268&DPL=&tacodalogin=yes

it will probably have little effect but I applaud the UCC's move to condemn the occupation based on religious ideology ..if only more religions would extend their religiosity to some of the ills of the world maybe more of these things could be prevented

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Stern...commending...Christians?

*Angry Lawyer implodes*

-Angry Lawyer

 

[CptStern]

heh I've always had a soft spot for those crazy United church christians ..they ordain women and marry same sex couples ..they're like "liberal" christians

 

[DaMaN]

I think this is a very good step in the right direction. Israel has been oppressing Palestinians for almost 60 years while occupying Palestinian land.

I'm glad that somebody is recognising and trying to do something about it.

-DaMaN

 

[The Monkey]

Not that it will make any difference.

 

[Niosis]

This post is totally ludicrous.

Israel has the God-given right to kill palestenians because it's the promised land.

Your source is some silly, poorly written tabloid paper, with a distorted view on the situation that you seem to have everyone brainwashed into believing.

This is a very negative, horrible step backwards that will only cause problems all over the world. Why boycott something that God has appointed Israel to do?

"This isn't a boycott against Israel"

He's right, it's a boycott against The Lord himself.

 

[DreadLord]

Holy shit Stern look! I think I see a brand new nutjob for you to argue with!

 

[Viperidae]

Let's watch him crash and burn.

 

[kirovman]

This post is totally ludicrous.

Israel has the God-given right to kill palestenians because it's the promised land.

Your source is some silly, poorly written tabloid paper, with a distorted view on the situation that you seem to have everyone brainwashed into believing.

This is a very negative, horrible step backwards that will only cause problems all over the world. Why boycott something that God has appointed Israel to do?



He's right, it's a boycott against The Lord himself.

lol, you win teh arguement.

 

[CptStern]

This post is totally ludicrous.

Israel has the God-given right to kill palestenians because it's the promised land.

:upstare: if it's the promised land where's the land title? I dont see anything that legally makes it the "promised land"

Your source is some silly, poorly written tabloid paper, with a distorted view on the situation that you seem to have everyone brainwashed into believing.

it's canada's most widely circulated newspaper but way to make an ass of yourself by not doing your research

This is a very negative, horrible step backwards that will only cause problems all over the world. Why boycott something that God has appointed Israel to do?

where is the holy decree ..I want something in writing :upstare:

He's right, it's a boycott against The Lord himself.

shut up god boy

Holy shit Stern look! I think I see a brand new nutjob for you to argue with!

I'm on the case!

 

[gh0st]

LOL stern is trying to impress his e-friends by simultaniously loving religion when it benefits his retarded views and hating it when it says something he doesnt like.

ps no one gives a shit what canada, let a lone some canadian church, has to say.

 

[JNightshade]

Heehee, break out the popcorn, gents. This promises to be entertaining

 

[CptStern]

LOL stern is trying to impress his e-friends by simultaniously loving religion when it benefits his retarded views and hating it when it says something he doesnt like.

lol! I'll ignore the "dont feed the trolls" sign this time around long enough to say .... way to lump all forms of christianity together .. <- look he's generalising ..it's a form of hate, ya know :O

 

[gh0st]

lol! I'll ignore the "dont feed the trolls" sign this time around long enough to say .... way to lump all forms of christianity together .. <- look he's generalising ..it's a form of hate, ya know :O

i hate a lot of things

 

[Niosis]

:upstare: if it's the promised land where's the land title? I dont see anything that legally makes it the "promised land"

Who was speaking in legalities? Are you some sort of lawyer?

it's CANADA'S most widely circulated newspaper but way to make an ass of yourself by not doing your research

Enough said.

where is the holy decree ..I want something in writing :upstare:

I'm sorry that "your type" have to have everything in writing, the bible should be good enough.

shut up god boy

Ok, antichrist.

Learn to capitalize Israel.

 

[DreadLord]

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7784/godboy1xt.jpg

 

[kirovman]

Was your Kaiser account banned, Nat?

 

[CptStern]

Who was speaking in legalities? Are you some sort of lawyer?

well you gotta give them some sort of paper saying "sorry this was promised to the jews - god" ...I mean their word only goes so far

Enough said.

oooh I get it ..since it's canada it must be written by a yak riding lumberjack who spells everything phonetically (re: the english way) because he never did learn americanese

I'm sorry that "your type" have to have everything in writing, the bible should be good enough.

the bible says I shouldnt eat seafood ..also that I should stone my wife/family to death should they disobey me ...or are you just using selecctive passages to support your idiotic ideas and ignoring the rest?

Ok, antichrist.

you cant see me right now but my head is spinning and I'm saying everything backwards (but type forward) ..DOMINUS QUI SUNT EIUS!!! /projectile vomit

Learn to capitalize Israel.

like I should be doing with god?

 

[Niosis]

well you gotta give them some sort of paper saying "sorry this was promised to the jews - god" ...I mean their word only goes so far

This isn't about anyone's word, this is about the BIBLE, which was written forever ago, how far does it have to be? If their word doesn't go far enough, how about the 12 disciples? Is that good enough?

oooh I get it ..since it's canada it must be written by a yak riding lumberjack who spells everything phonetically (re: the english way) because he never did learn americanese

That's pretty much exactly how I pictured it.

the bible says I shouldnt eat seafood ..also that I should stone my wife/family to death should they disobey me ...or are you just using selecctive passages to support your idiotic ideas and ignoring the rest?

I'm using selective passages, where as you are using selective thinking on interpereting the passages in the most negative way possible.

like I should be doing with god?

Precisely.

 

[DreadLord]

Psst, Niosis, proving Stern's points correct doesn't help your argument.


/sits back with JNightshade and has some popcorn.

 

[CptStern]

This isn't about anyone's word, this is about the BIBLE, which was written forever ago, how far does it have to be?

well according to the bible not much longer than 6000 years ...again the bible isnt the word of law .so the answer is ...no

If their word doesn't go far enough, how about the 12 disciples? Is that good enough?

not really ..it's not like they're on the housing advisory board, or the Commitee to Give Back Israel to the Bible People ...maybe if they gave you signed statements or swore under oath (not on the bible cuz that might be biased)

That's pretty much exactly how I pictured it.

dont get out much from Jesusland do you?

I'm using selective passages, where as you are using selective thinking on interpereting the passages in the most negative way possible.

how else would you interpret this:

"All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. " (Leviticus 20:9)


or this:

"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death." (Leviticus 20:27)



or this:

On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the Sabbath of complete rest to the Lord. Anyone who does work on that day, shall be put to death. You shall not even light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day. (Exodus 35:2-3 )


or this:

"If two Israelite men are fighting and the wife of one tries to rescue her husband by grabbing the testicles of the other man, her hand must be cut off without pity." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)




I guess you dont curse your parents, go to fortune tellers, grab another man's testicles (or your wife at least), cut the lawn on a sunday for fear of being stoned to death? .... /me picks up sharp stone

Precisely.

godgodgodgodgod-schmod god of the isrealites ...let me try that again: g0d of the iSraelites ...no that doesnt work out either

 

[jondy]

/sits back with JNightshade and has some popcorn.

No back-row loving!

 

[DreadLord]

dont get out much from Jesusland do you?

So glad I'm in the good portion of that!

 

[Niosis]

how else would you interpret this:

"All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. " (Leviticus 20:9)


or this:

"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death." (Leviticus 20:27)



or this:

On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the Sabbath of complete rest to the Lord. Anyone who does work on that day, shall be put to death. You shall not even light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day. (Exodus 35:2-3 )


or this:

"If two Israelite men are fighting and the wife of one tries to rescue her husband by grabbing the testicles of the other man, her hand must be cut off without pity." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)




I guess you dont curse your parents, go to fortune tellers, grab another man's testicles (or your wife at least), cut the lawn on a sunday for fear of being stoned to death?

How it can be interpereted:

Sinning is bad.


Replace "stoned" or "put to death" with punished, is it so bad that the bible was made to be scared of sinning?

 

[gh0st]

i dont think the bible was meant to be taken literally. if it was we'd be in the STONE age. hahaha. i think we are meant to use its stories as ways of living.

see hyperbole.

 

[Niosis]

i dont think the bible was meant to be taken literally. if it was we'd be in the STONE age. hahaha. i think we are meant to use its stories as ways of living.

see hyperbole.

Exactly?

-offtopic-

Happy 20,000 post stern.

 

[MultiVaC]

Can we get an IP check on this guy? He's got to be an alternate account screwing with us.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Where does it say in the Bible that the Israelis have the "God-given right to kill palestenians"?

Also, what happened to "Thou shalt not kill?"

 

[kirovman]

Where does it say in the Bible that the Israelis have the "God-given right to kill palestenians"?

Also, what happened to "Thou shalt not kill?"

Oh, there's a disclaimer in the Bible saying that you can pick and choose what you want to follow.

Also, it's only murder if they don't fight back when you attack them.

www.thebricktestament.com

 

[JNightshade]

Niosis:

read this.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Niosis must be someone we know.

 

[Niosis]

Naw, I don't know anyone.

I was sent by OvA to mess with CptStern, so I would get shredded, I said sure.


but yeah the last post I made argueing actually had a point, everything else was pretty much bs, as you could see.

EDIT-

Yeah I don't know or care about politics in the least.

 

[MultiVaC]

Well, that's good. At least we don't have another mega-nutjob around here. I don't think it would be pleasant to have a lunatic godboy in addition to our resident lunatic conspiracy theorist, kathakasung or whatever his name is.

 

[Viperidae]

Naw, I don't know anyone.

I was sent by OvA to mess with CptStern, so I would get shredded, I said sure.


but yeah the last post I made argueing actually had a point, everything else was pretty much bs, as you could see.

EDIT-

Yeah I don't know or care about politics in the least.

Grounds for ban?

 

[DeusExMachina]

OvA

God among Men.

 

[99.vikram]

This thread wins!

http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n8lf.png

 

[Tr0n]

Grounds for ban?

Yes it is.

 

[gick]

EDIT: nvm, job done.

 

[Element Alpha]

Stern, you realize you've been quoting the new testament, right? I expect you're aware that only the old testament is valid in jewish religion...

On another note, I wouldn't be surprised if the united church of canada was completely unaware of the history of the conflict, just like 99% of the people.

 

[CptStern]

Stern, you realize you've been quoting the new testament, right? I expect you're aware that only the old testament is valid in jewish religion...

be that as it may, the quotes were a response to his assertation that the bible should be interpreted literally nothing more

On another note, I wouldn't be surprised if the united church of canada was completely unaware of the history of the conflict, just like 99% of the people.

I disagree

http://www.united-church.ca/gco/pdf/060629.pdf