US soldier gets death penalty

KoreBolteR said:
we can abolish the death penalty for one.. but dno if that wud happen

well since it is legal in some states (texas) and not in others (massachusetts), it will probably remain in the states hands. doubt it will be abolished.
 
Foxtrot said:
A lot of the money is in the trial, I am sure they could sort it out and my trials more effective. We could also cut costs by killing the person by just not giving them any water. After that we could sell their organs and blood and anything else to make up for the money spent.

yeah exactly, if proved guilty 100%, they could sell thier organs too any GOOD person who needs it.

imo, thier life privelages are taken away as soon as they commit that murder.. (manslaughter and murdered without a motive would not count)
 
Sure! Let's resort to barbarism!

Starve them! Break their ribs! Shove bamboo up their fingernails! Then saw off their heads and parade them around the neighborhood!
 
KoreBolteR said:
we need to sort this out. what can we possibly do too lower this monsterous figure of money for one execution..?? :|
Less appeals, more incompetent, public defenders, etc.

This will of course increase the number of innocents killed. So its up to you, huge amounts of money and "only" 23 innocents dead or less money and more innoecents dead?

Then of course there is a third option. Change it to life in prison. That would mean less money and zero innocents killed.
 
Absinthe said:
Sure! Let's resort to barbarism!

Starve them! Break their ribs! Shove bamboo up their fingernails! Then saw off their heads and parade them around the neighborhood!
Yah, because that is so below our humane and gentle society. What is wrong with starving someone to death? Oh that is right, we have to kill the mass murderer in a nice and godly manner.
 
Foxtrot said:
Yah, because that is so below our humane and gentle society.

Well, you certainly read right through my sarcasm.
 
Absinthe said:
im being sarcastic as always

PickledGecko said:
Less appeals, more incompetent, public defenders, etc.

This will of course increase the number of innocents killed. So its up to you, huge amounts of money and "only" 23 innocents dead or less money and more innoecents dead?

Then of course there is a third option. Change it to life in prison. That would mean less money and zero innocents killed.

very true.. but if this happened, can you imagine how many more prisons would have to be built etc etc :bonce:
 
Absinthe said:
Well, you certainly read right through my sarcasm.
I know exactly what you meant though, we can't kill people like that or do things like that anymore.
 
maybe his sarcasm detector was on the fritz! ....wait, is that sarcasm?


here let me try:


Absinthe loves criminals so much that he'd like to starve them, break their ribs, shove bammboo in their fingernails and saw off their heads

:BEEP BEEP BEEP*


yup, mine seems to be working
 
Bodacious said:
Did I hear you correctly? Did you say starvation is barbaric?

its cruel and unusual punishment. if only somethign protected citizens from that ;)
 
kmack said:
its cruel and unusual punishment. if only somethign protected citizens from that ;)

I am not disagreeing that starvation isn't barbaric, just so you know.
 
KoreBolteR said:
very true.. but if this happened, can you imagine how many more prisons would have to be built etc etc :bonce:
Is murder that common? If it is, I think maybe fixing that should be first priority.
 
this thread is going way too silly because of absinthe's sarcasm.

lets just say if we abolish the death penalty, less innocents would be executed at a lesser price. (but more prisons built)
 
PickledGecko said:
Is murder that common? If it is, I think maybe fixing that should be first priority.

ya ...probably should start with banning guns :E
 
Bodacious said:
I am not disagreeing that starvation isn't barbaric, just so you know.

you asked if starvation was barbaric, i said that it was something we are protected against, and that it is cruel and unusual. i was just answering your question.
 
KoreBolteR said:
I'm unable to make a competent argument, as always.

Do you agree with the essence of my post or not?

Bodacious said:
Did I hear you correctly? Did you say starvation is barbaric?

I have a good idea as to where you're going with this, so let me just inform you that the situations are radically different.
 
KoreBolteR said:
this thread is going way too silly because of absinthe's sarcasm.

Please. You were going nowhere any way.

For the record, I've pretty much made on sarcastic post in this entire topic, so don't try to pin any thread destruction on me, thankyouverymuch.
 
CptStern said:
ya ...probably should start with banning guns :E
Or we should ban the reason people kill other people, rappers. Lets ban all rappers.
 
Absinthe said:
Please. You were going nowhere any way.

i was coming to a valid point! i knew you would come on here and make a sarcastic post to derail the thread
 
Foxtrot said:
Or we should ban the reason people kill other people, rappers. Lets ban all rappers.

lol rappers and video games, and television, and other music and....the liist goes on
 
KoreBolteR said:
i was coming to a valid point! i knew make a sarcastic post to derail the thread

How do you come to a valid point? Why don't you just make it already.

And de-railing a topic would require that my post was irrelevant. It wasn't. We're still talking about the death penalty, are we not?

Now, this little tangent we're going on is de-railing.
 
foxtrot said:
Or we should ban the reason people kill other people, rappers. Lets ban all rappers.

ya cuz white country folk dont kill peeps
 
Absinthe said:
How do you come to a valid point? Why don't you just make it already.

And de-railing a topic would require that my post was irrelevant. It wasn't. We're still talking about the death penalty, are we not?

Now, this little tangent we're going on is de-railing.

yeah sure we are, your provoking other members by your sarcasm, make a decent post with your views for a change.

back to thie topic how many states in the USA perform executions?
 
KoreBolteR said:
yeah sure we are, your provoking other members by your sarcasm, make a decent post with your views for a change.

Yes, because sarcasm = provocation. (Aren't I clever? I'm being sarcastic again!)

Only you seem to have a problem with it, so grow a pair or something. Because you certainly aren't one to be talking about decent posts. (That, by the way, was a provocation)
 
kmack said:
you asked if starvation was barbaric, i said that it was something we are protected against, and that it is cruel and unusual. i was just answering your question.


I asked if Absinthe thought starvation was barbaric.
 
Absinthe said:
That, by the way, was a provocation

didnt i just ask you to stick to the topic and stop derailing the thread. kthx

back to the topic again before i was provoked - would a murderer living in a non execution state, but murdering a texas citizen get death? or life in prison? if you get me... lol
 
KoreBolteR said:
didnt i just ask you to stick to the topic and stop derailing the thread. kthx

back to the topic again before i was provoked - would a murderer living in a non execution state, but murdering a texas citizen get death? or life in prison? if you get me... lol
You are prosecuted where the crime was commited.
 
KoreBolteR said:
didnt i just ask you to stick to the topic and stop derailing the thread. kthxbye

back to the topic again before i was provoked - would a murderer living in a non execution state, but murdering a texas citizen get death? or life in prison? if you get me... lol


absinthe was not de-railing ...it's just another example of you oversimplifying a complex issue


anyways ..it doesnt matter what state your from, you're tried according to the laws of the state where the crime was committed
 
Foxtrot said:
You are prosecuted where the crime was commited.

ah right!, if thats the case, is there a lower murder rate in texas, than other non execution states?
 
What if you're standing in one state, and you shoot a guy over the border in another state?
 
about the death penalty...remember the criminal is the victim, not the other way around, right?

so we should blame the woman not the rapist? the child and not the molester?

if only the fairness and equality went both ways..

why should anyone be given the right that they TOOK FROM SOMEONE ELSE?

about the high cost...how much does one bullet cost? or a rope? or a long walk off of a short pier?
 
PickledGecko said:
What if you're standing in one state, and you shoot a guy over the border in another state?
Then you are prosecuted in the state where the person died...but the borders are really hard to find anyways.
 
Foxtrot said:
Or we should ban the reason people kill other people, rappers. Lets ban all rappers.

I am with you on this aspect of things...not "blacks" or "whites", but these assholes who glorify the "thug life"..

yo,yo bust a cap in a ni**a,bust a cap!!

its just friggin retarded, 2pac is a hero? a GOOD role model?
 
what if you were standing in texas shooting someone over the border..

ROFL @ giaOmerta for talking about the scouts in death penalty forum :D:D
 
T.H.C.138 said:
I am with you on this aspect of things...not "blacks" or "whites", but these assholes who glorify the "thug life"..

yo,yo bust a cap in a ni**a,bust a cap!!

its just friggin retarded, 2pac is a hero? a GOOD role model?
Exactly, the inner city children have no roll modles except their older brothers or whatever who are trying to emulate "fiddy" or some other rapper because they think it is the cool thing to do. Rappers pound it into their head.
 
where the hell do you get your information? according to you all inner city children grow up to be gangbangers
 
hey if you want to ban rap... I'll help!
Everyone knows you can't spell crap without rap...
 
CptStern said:
where the hell do you get your information? according to you all inner city children grow up to be gangbangers
Not all, but a good majority do.
 
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