V for Vendetta

[xcellerate]

This movie isn't based on reality, its based on a comic.

That's a stupid reason for putting stupid stuff in a movie though. The transporter movies were bad because they weren't based on reality. You can't just throw out the laws of physics and common sense in the name of 'cool'.

I still remember in the last batman movie, towards the end when batman is talking to the main bad guy and behind the bad guy are like 6 other ninjas. Well batman jumps over the railing and the 6 guys jump down after him, it would have been SOO much cooler if instead of just fighting the guys, he pulled out his little grappling hook and flew back up the ledge and left the ninjas on the ground helpless to follow.

And in this movie, it would have been so much cooler if the writers could have created a better ending sequence than just having him sit there and tank 100 bullets. It's just poor writing on somebody's part, in my book. Plus the fireworks in the explosions didn't make any sense, and couldn't even happen.

I have a feeling a bottle rocket wrapped in c4...will not act like a firework after the c4 explodes.

 

[gick]

Plus the fireworks in the explosions didn't make any sense, and couldn't even happen.

They made perfect sense to me (the whole movie is about November 5th after all). Maybe he had seperate fuses for them or summat? Willing suspension of disbelief an' all that...

 

[Direwolf]

"It's based on a comic book" is usually a polite way of pointing out that it fits the style and substance of the rest of the film. Very little about the film is realistic, making criticisms like that just seem petty and meaningless within the context of the film.

 

[xcellerate]

Yea, but a film can still be unrealistic and believable. I mean, watching jackie chan movies you could actually believe that he could avoid 20 guys.

It's the little things that can make or break a film for me, and if they wanted to add a little bit of flare to an scene in V by sticking fireworks in an explosion, then that drops the film a letter grade for me.

It was unnecessary, and they just wanted it for a 'wow' factor. Fireworks being shot from a subway train filled with explosives, that are able to not only SURVIVE intact a subway train explosion, but also aren't even knocked off their trajectory by the, and then are able to travel through an exploding subway car, an exploding street, and an exploding building and then are able to still be 'together' enough to explode properly, is just too far from reality to me.

If you can’t do something right, then don’t do it at all. It would be sort of like if the hobbits jumped in their Mercedes e55 to travel to wherever the hell they were going, instead of hiking it.

Yea, i know 'it's just fireworks', but it plus the bullet proof vest, really ruined the movie for me If they had only removed the fireworks, and had a better way to do the 'bulletproof' sequence then it would have been an excellent movie.

 

[DeusExMachina]

The comic's pretty realistic actually. The only explosions in the comic came in the beginning when he bombed Parliament. He also dies from one shot in the comic, not 100. I think I spelled Parliament wrong...

 

[Direwolf]

Fireworks don't bother me in the least. V's methods and execution were so complicated, mysterious, and downright bizarre that its not tough to imagine him figuring out how to make a few pretty explosions.

 

[Dan]

I just saw it. Overall it was pretty good. But I like seeing most any movie on the big screen. Some parts of it kinda bugged me. These are my gripes. Don't take it as a negative review, I'm just picky.

V's plan was pretty weak. Any number of little things would have ruined it. When he gets shot up, the odds are pretty good that one of those would have torn his jugular. Also his hands and arms would be so shot up that he couldn't even hold a knife. And I don't know what he was wearing at the end, but no material we have today would allow you to stand up and do kung fu after getting hit by some 300 odd rounds, even small caliber.

They also don't explain how the totalitarian police force managed not to notice his rebuilt train tracks or traincar filled with explosives. The possibility of an underground attack was brought up, and yet it was outrightly dismissed without even giving a cursory check of the rails which would reveal the newly laid tracks and repairs made as well as a frickin train full of explosives.

Also it doesn't explain how he could organize all of that all by himself. Like manufacturing 12000 masks? Arranging for 1000s of boxes to be delivered without showing his face, somehow transporting a trainload of explosives underground by himself. And when he sets up the prison charade, he's the only person there but then who takes Every from the cell to the interrogation room? I think she would get pretty suspicious about the fact that the guy that interrogates her, walks her from cell to interrogation room, and also cuts her hair are all the same person, who's face is always hidden by shadow.

Personally I had a lot of trouble believing her reaction to being imprisoned and tortured by this guy. "Hey, thanks a lot for shaving my head, torturing me, and ****ing with my mind, that really freed me. I like you a lot more than the government that didn't do any of those things to me. Maybe I'll even dance with you and kiss your plastic face a couple days from now as soon as I drink some water that didn't come from my own toilet."

How does he get fireworks to make a V when launched from an underground explosion? I doubt even a single firework would make it through the rubble of the building on top of it.

I didn't appreciate the blatant Nazi references so much either. It was like being slapped in the face every 10 minutes and having someone say, "look it's Hitler, they're Nazis, can't you see how evil he is?"

I've never read the book so I don't know what the story was supposed to be. But what exactly went on at the prison camp wasn't explained very well. It sounds like they were developing a new virus. But the doctor mentions that she thought that what they were doing was somehow for the good of the country. And she also mentioned Oppenheimer I think who developed the atomic bomb. She says that V was the only successful patient, but successful at what? Not dying? Isn't the point of the virus to kill people? That would make V a failure.

 

[DeusExMachina]

The virus was supposed to make people stronger in the comic, but V was the only one who could handle it. It made him "super-human." There weren't really numerous Nazi references in the comic, more towards fascism in general. The comic had better (and much cooler) explanation on the prison camp. Originally, when Finch goes to the camp, he takes LSD and sees everything that V saw and went through, the experiments...everything.

 

[WhiteZero]

Since when do movies have to be believeable?
That isnt always entertaining...

 

[Dan]

Since when do movies have to be believeable?
That isnt always entertaining...

Movies have to be believable within the framework that they establish. If a movie is set in a 3 dimensional world that follows the same laws of physics as are own, then it can't go about blatently throwing those laws out the window. It's called suspension of disbelieve.

Sure I'll accept that I'm seeing the future that cars can fly now, that for some unexplained reason I have a camera in these events that lets me see what's going on. Ok, that's the context that I'm going to accept this movie in. But then if suddenly the main character disappears and the rest of the movie is an unrelated cartoon about talking teddy bears I'd stand up and say "hey, what the **** is going on? This story doesn't make sense" Or I'd light up a joint or something and enjoy the trip.