Virginia Tech Shooting

[Sidewinder]

uhmmm concealed firearms permit mmuch?

 

[MiccyNarc]

Did you guys not see the video where he condemned rich kids with their "trust funds?"

I can hate rich people all I want, that doesn't mean I'm poor. There's not a magic boundary "Rich" | "Poor"...there's a lot of gray area there.
Even so, I know plenty of poor people that don't go on killing sprees.

He. Was. Nuts.

End of story.

 

[Baal]

I can hate rich people all I want, that doesn't mean I'm poor. There's not a magic boundary "Rich" | "Poor"...there's a lot of gray area there.
Even so, I know plenty of poor people that don't go on killing sprees.

He. Was. Nuts.

End of story.

Ok ok, that he was.

Did you see the video of his Great Aunt in S. Korea? She was saying even at the age of 8 he was crazy.

And I guess he pretty much never spoke to anyone, ever.'

Yes, we knew he didn't speak to his colleages, but he also didn't even speak to his parents!

 

[Baal]

We may have found the ebay account of the gunman

The affadavit said the suspect in the shootings, who has been named as 23-year-old Cho Seung-Hui, was believed to have multiple firearms, including but not limited to Walther P22 and Glock 9mm handguns.
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In another affidavit, police say they are seeking information from Tech's computer servers for Cho's two known e-mail accounts -- [email protected], his school account, and [email protected], an account that was used in the purchase of a gun. The latter account was used as recently as February, the affidavit says.

Some searching led someone here and finally here



The exact item auctions he purchased have been removed, but if you click on the sellers, some of them are ammunition suppliers.

Upon further research you will notice he is selling off some of his posessions:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200070466090

And scalping tickets to Virginia Tech football games:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200058573157

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

If you support guns, that's great, as long as you support tight restrictions. Personally, I think that, if your caught with a gun outside in public (that includes in your car), you should be banned from owning any firearm for the rest of your life.

No.


Arizona law states that any person legally able to own a firearm may carry the weapon in public so long as it is in public view and is holstered/slung. This does not apply to concealed carry permit holders, who may conceal their weapons.

 

[CptStern]

arizona has almost as many murders per year as all of canada combined despite having 1/6th the population ..so obviously things like concealed weapon permmits or guns out in the open does nothing to curb violence

 

[hool10]

Lol did anybody the feedback he got? One of them from intrepia said: "cooperative and communicative." How ironic.

 

[NightBlade]

IF we are going to make things to were shootings like this and other mass murders we are going to take away a lot of our liberties.

When a Crazy guy like this guy decides that he is going to kill a bunch of people he is goings to find a way to kill people.

(Unrelated to the VTech shooting) If we want to make America safer from guns we should start with not letting people who are not US citzens buy guns. That would be a good start to protecting us from gun shootings.

 

[15357]

He was being sarcastic. So it was a contribution to the thread.

...I'm pretty sure. You dont' know, with Numbers.

True - with any other poster I would be confident that was a sarcastic, acid, hyperbolic response to Baal, undermining his assertion by taking it to its logical conclusion (not very well I'll grant you)...but with Numbers, who can tell?

Sarcasm.



Poor people are people too.





And people are resources.... you never waste resources.

(unless you want to be elimiated by a swarm of mutalisks.)

 

[CptStern]

And people are resources.... you never waste resources.

mmmmm soylent green

 

[Jintor]

Lolz@numbers.

I think we're edging slowly into 'Safety at the cost of freedoms?' here. -_-

 

[The Brick]

 

[Solaris]

If you support guns, that's great, as long as you support tight restrictions. Personally, I think that, if your caught with a gun outside in public (that includes in your car), you should be banned from owning any firearm for the rest of your life.

Then that means the only people who would take guns outside would be criminals.
So now you have a situation where criminals readily use weapons in crime, but other people are not allowed to carry guns to protect themselves.

That makes the criminals job alot easier and makes it easier for a psycho to kill alot more people before someone can stop him.

 

[ríomhaire]

If you support guns, that's great, as long as you support tight restrictions. Personally, I think that, if your caught with a gun outside in public (that includes in your car), you should be banned from owning any firearm for the rest of your life.

But if you just bought a gun how are you supposed to bring it home?

 

[Ennui]

Then that means the only people who would take guns outside would be criminals.
So now you have a situation where criminals readily use weapons in crime, but other people are not allowed to carry guns to protect themselves.

That makes the criminals job alot easier and makes it easier for a psycho to kill alot more people before someone can stop him.

I only speak for myself, but if I was a bystander in a robbery I'd prefer that everyone just cooperated with the gunman and gave him all their money rather than some dumbass hero pulling a gun out and a bunch of people being killed that wouldn't be otherwise.

 

[Baal]

That's simply astounding..

 

[Krynn72]

I only speak for myself, but if I was a bystander in a robbery I'd prefer that everyone just cooperated with the gunman and gave him all their money rather than some dumbass hero pulling a gun out and a bunch of people being killed that wouldn't be otherwise.

QFT. I honestly cant think of an incident where someone protected themselves from an armed criminal with another gun. It simply doesnt happen enough to warrant the easier access criminals have to get guns.

Perhaps 1 in 20 (probably being VERY liberal with that) murders can be prevented by another person with a gun. But if we take away guns it would be more like 15 out of 20 would be prevented simply by the hardship it takes to get a weapon.

 

[Ennui]

Not to mention, statistically speaking, you're more likely to wind up dead if you pull a gun on a criminal than if you just cooperate.

 

[Solaris]

QFT. I honestly cant think of an incident where someone protected themselves from an armed criminal with another gun. It simply doesnt happen enough to warrant the easier access criminals have to get guns.

Perhaps 1 in 20 (probably being VERY liberal with that) murders can be prevented by another person with a gun. But if we take away guns it would be more like 15 out of 20 would be prevented simply by the hardship it takes to get a weapon.

How does allowing people to carry guns with them ,compared with only at home make it easier for a criminal to get a gun?

 

[Lucid]

I loled.

 

[gick]

QFT. I honestly cant think of an incident where someone protected themselves from an armed criminal with another gun. It simply doesnt happen enough to warrant the easier access criminals have to get guns.

Perhaps 1 in 20 (probably being VERY liberal with that) murders can be prevented by another person with a gun. But if we take away guns it would be more like 15 out of 20 would be prevented simply by the hardship it takes to get a weapon.

Where did you get these statistics from?

 

[dream431ca]

No.


Arizona law states that any person legally able to own a firearm may carry the weapon in public so long as it is in public view and is holstered/slung. This does not apply to concealed carry permit holders, who may conceal their weapons.

Does the law also state you can carry ammo inside the gun while in public? If it does, then you should be allowed to shoot somebody right? I mean that's why we have guns is to kill people. This isn't the wild west anymore. Other countries have matured and advanced while you still follow laws made in 1812.

 

[Solaris]

Does the law also state you can carry ammo inside the gun while in public? If it does, then you should be allowed to shoot somebody right? I mean that's why we have guns is to kill people. This isn't the wild west anymore. Other countries have matured and advanced while you still follow laws made in 1812.

You haven't addressed the previous oppositions made to your other post.

Please do so. They answer this as well.

 

[kathaksung]

When I read the story of how students jumped off the floor to escape from the killer, I think of Iraqi people. The students bear the panic for a couple dozen of minutes. Iraqi people are under constant pressure of being bombed, kidnapped and killed for more than four years. Yet the situation worsens.

Is Iraq a big Virginia Tech? Does Bush play the role of Cho Seung Hui? He intrudes Iraq and shoot people at his own will. What is this war for? How can Bush still be the US president? A killer of massacre.

 

[Pulse]

When I read the story of how students jumped off the floor to escape from the killer, I think of Iraqi people. The students bear the panic for a couple dozen of minutes. Iraqi people are under constant pressure of being bombed, kidnapped and killed for more than four years. Yet the situation worsens.

Is Iraq a big Virginia Tech? Does Bush play the role of Cho Seung Hui? He intrudes Iraq and shoot people at his own will. What is this war for? How can Bush still be the US president? A killer of massacre.

Thanks for sparking yet another Iraq conflict discussion, in a place where it clearly isn't needed.

In b4 politics.

 

[mastag]

When I read the story of how students jumped off the floor to escape from the killer, I think of Iraqi people. The students bear the panic for a couple dozen of minutes. Iraqi people are under constant pressure of being bombed, kidnapped and killed for more than four years. Yet the situation worsens.

Is Iraq a big Virginia Tech? Does Bush play the role of Cho Seung Hui? He intrudes Iraq and shoot people at his own will. What is this war for? How can Bush still be the US president? A killer of massacre.

lol @ death exploitation.

 

[Krynn72]

How does allowing people to carry guns with them ,compared with only at home make it easier for a criminal to get a gun?

You can still buy them easily. You can steal them even more easily. If they are available to the public in any way, then that makes it easier for criminals to get them also.

Where did you get these statistics from?

Thought it was pretty obvious that I made them up to exemplify the idea that a better method of prevention would be to remove the guns of criminals rather than just throw more guns into the mix.

 

[Jintor]

This may or may not be interesting.

Cho had no writing talent: Stephen King

 

[Baal]

This may or may not be interesting.

Cho had no writing talent: Stephen King

Dude was crazy.

Like, totally.

I now love Stephen King.

 

[kathaksung]

Quote: Four Points
By Michael A. Hoffman II
|April 17, 2007 | 12 noon PT|
Copyright2007. All Rights Reserved

1. Cell phone was obstructed on the Virginia Tech campus during the shootings.

2. Local police and university officials were told to stand down after the first shooting of a woman and a man in a dorm after the first shooting of a woman and a man in a dorm, becuse they were told it was only a case of a domestic assult.

3.Whomever had the authority to give local police and university offcials this false intelligence, prevented the evacution of the campus and enabled the killing of thirty more persons(thirty-one counting the shooter).

4.Whomever obstructed cell phone sevice on during the shootings, hindered students from evacuating themselves and their friends.

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.co...-judgment.html <http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2007/04/process-church-of-alchemical-judgment.html>

 

[<RJMC>]

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