world peace could have been attained

Its not just personal pain, its the whole word. E.g Iraq, Starving people in africa. People being raped, people being tortured. You cant just forget.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
Thats says so much about you...

You see pain(Physical or mental, as in thinking other peoples pain isnt worth it) in your life as more of a focal point. I see it as a mere interlude between the fun parts. Like the man above said, there are always people who are going to focus on the bad side of things, but you know what...You don't have to. You can choose to be positive about things.

By the way, why don't you get a labotamy...then you won't really care either way about anything ;)

see the thing is, im not talking about me right now, my life is good because i know how to live comfortably, and i never get headaches. this isn't the issue. i know its easy to assume that im complainig that my life is full of pain, but far from it actually. im talking about everything and everyone.
 
Fat Tony! said:
Its not just personal pain, its the whole word. E.g Iraq, Starving people in africa. People being raped, people being tortured. You cant just forget.


I'm not saying that, and I know they are in a terrible way. But thats because of choices made a long time ago. We would make it if we tried, but nobody is willing. Instead, they just want to quit like mr posey here. Perhaps I don't speak for those in Iraq(Using it as a useful example), but you don't just jump ship when it gets tough, you fight on through it.


Yeah I tried to get that across, but it didnt really work posey.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
I'm not saying that, and I know they are in a terrible way. But thats because of choices made a long time ago. We would make it if we tried, but nobody is willing. Instead, they just want to quit like mr posey here. Perhaps I don't speak for those in Iraq(Using it as a useful example), but you don't just jump ship when it gets tough, you fight on through it.

what do you mean quit? i want to quit the entire world if thats what you mean. you probably didn't read my other post yet, but this isn't about me. my life = hunky dory!
 
You misunderstood what I was saying. You think the world is in too bad a way for it to be justified, so instead you opt to quit. Whether it be just you or everyone, its really not of consequence because you wont exist.
 
poseyjmac said:
what do you mean quit? i want to quit the entire world if thats what you mean. you probably didn't read my other post yet, but this isn't about me. my life = hunky dory!

If you're life is 'hunky dory' yet you still think the world should be destroyed for some minute displeasure you may feel then you are sick in the head. You should see a professional.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
You misunderstood what I was saying. You think the world is in too bad a way for it to be justified, so instead you opt to quit. Whether it be just you or everyone, its really not of consequence because you wont exist.

im saying that if the option presented itself to create world peace, i would take it. otherwise, in life ill just live happily as i can while i try and find truth in life.
 
InsaneCow said:
If you're life is 'hunky dory' yet you still think the world should be destroyed for some minute displeasure you may feel then you are sick in the head. You should see a professional.

are you saying the amount of suffering that has gone on in the history of the world is minute?

and REMEMBER, im not talking about me. its not about what im feeling.
 
poseyjmac said:
are you saying the amount of suffering that has gone on in the history of the world is minute?

and REMEMBER, im not talking about me. its not about what im feeling.

You are in no position to make the judgement that everyone would be better off dead rather than 'suffer greatly'. Everyone undergoes some pain, that is unavoidable. Doesn't mean everyone should die for it. To think that you have the right to end everything just shows that you are extremely self centered and arrogant.
 
InsaneCow said:
You are in no position to make the judgement that everyone would be better off dead rather than 'suffer greatly'. Everyone undergoes some pain, that is unavoidable. Doesn't mean everyone should die for it. To think that you have the right to end everything just shows that you are extremely self centered and arrogant.

no it shows that i know more about the capacity of suffering in the world than you do. and that people don't know whats best for them. i mean i can just tell you that you are being arrogant if you did not choose the same, because the end result would be a huge amount of suffering to take place as time goes on.
 
poseyjmac said:
no it shows that i know more about the capacity of suffering in the world than you do. and that people don't know whats best for them. i mean i can just tell you that you are being arrogant if you did not choose the same, because the end result would be a huge amount of suffering to take place as time goes on.

No, you do not know more. If people in the world really thought that death was better than life and the thought of maybe suffering pain was too much for them then they would kill themselves. The fact that the entire population of earth has not committed suicide means they value life more than death. Therefore, for you to suggest that some 6 billion plus people are wrong and you are right is arrogance. They dont know whats best for them do they? And I suppose you do? There we have it again, you're arrogance showing through.
 
poseyjmac said:
i have been calm this whole time, man. and who said anything about boredom? i have plenty of things to do, plenty of goals. im far from bored, working on steam skins right now actually(hey its fun)

if you aren't existing, its not boring because you aren't doing anything. its like forever sleep.
have you not existed before or something and remember it? do you speak from experience?

your whole nuke us all cause that is somehow peaceful mentality just doesn't cut it for me, and all you seem like is a nihilistic rebel shouting "F.T.W" out your parent's sedan or something (oooooooooh, buuuuurn)

this whole thread is a huge waste of brain energy except where me and farrow and some of us more sensible folks have spammed it really.
 
This is one of the strangest, most disturbing, and on some levels, most pathetic thread I've ever seen on these boards.

"Let's nuke the world because there is suffering in it and we are all better off dead" seems to be the attitude you've taken towards everything poseyjmac. Do you know how everyone on this earth feels about life? You certainly presume to. Some people suffer greatly but would still pick life over your so-called peaceful state of non-existence. Do you know why? Because they do not focus on the bad parts of life. They have learned that if your content to wallow in the doom and gloom that surrounds you, you won't enjoy anything, and you certainly won't make it very far, if you make it all. A life may be consumed by suffering, but some people decide that keeping their chin up, and enjoying every good moment as best they can is the way to go. Some of the happiest people I've known have lead lives full of pain, suffering, and death. Suffering is a part of life, you either deal with it, or you don't. Picking life over death, or vice versa, isn't a choice that falls in just anybody's lap. That choice belongs to the individual and no one else. You don't know what's right and wrong for everyone on this earth poseyjmac, and prancing around with this "I am smarter than god" attitude you have makes you like a total ass with some serious delusions of grandeur.
 
qckbeam said:
This is one of the strangest, most disturbing, and on some levels, most pathetic thread I've ever seen on these boards.

"Let's nuke the world because there is suffering in it and we are all better off dead" seems to be the attitude you've taken towards everything poseyjmac. Do you know how everyone on this earth feels about life? You certainly presume to. Some people suffer greatly but would still pick life over your so-called peaceful state of non-existence. Do you know why? Because they do not focus on the bad parts of life. They have learned that if your content to wallow in the doom and gloom that surrounds you, you won't enjoy anything, and you certainly won't make it very far, if you make it all. A life may be consumed by suffering, but some people decide that keeping their chin up, and enjoying every good moment as best they can is the way to go. Some of the happiest people I've known have lead lives full of pain, suffering, and death. Suffering is a part of life, you either deal with it, or you don't. Picking life over death, or vice versa, isn't a choice that falls in just anybody's lap. That choice belongs to the individual and no one else. You don't know what's right and wrong for everyone on this earth poseyjmac, and prancing around with this "I am smarter than god" attitude you have makes you like a total ass with some serious delusions of grandeur.

indeed qcky, I can relate to the not focusing on the sad parts myself, though I seem to make plenty more for myself.

by the way, where've you been lately? :(
 
InsaneCow said:
No, you do not know more. If people in the world really thought that death was better than life and the thought of maybe suffering pain was too much for them then they would kill themselves. The fact that the entire population of earth has not committed suicide means they value life more than death. Therefore, for you to suggest that some 6 billion plus people are wrong and you are right is arrogance. They dont know whats best for them do they? And I suppose you do? There we have it again, you're arrogance showing through.

people value the possibility of a pleasurable life, which is why they don't commit suicide and have the idea that its worth it to live. this is just a mass euthanasia to a dissallusioned race. nothing more.

and hey im getting insulted for wanting no more suffering. now i know how jesus felt! (lol bet thatll wind some people up)
 
CyberSh33p said:
have you not existed before or something and remember it? do you speak from experience? .

possibly :)


CyberSh33p said:
your whole nuke us all cause that is somehow peaceful mentality just doesn't cut it for me, and all you seem like is a nihilistic rebel shouting "F.T.W" out your parent's sedan or something (oooooooooh, buuuuurn).

if FTW means free the world, then yes i would shout that. i dont think my parents have a sedan last time i checked though. i have a tercel however. *note to self, clean cat puke off roof of car*
 
qckbeam said:
This is one of the strangest, most disturbing, and on some levels, most pathetic thread I've ever seen on these boards.

"Let's nuke the world because there is suffering in it and we are all better off dead" seems to be the attitude you've taken towards everything poseyjmac. Do you know how everyone on this earth feels about life? You certainly presume to. Some people suffer greatly but would still pick life over your so-called peaceful state of non-existence. Do you know why? Because they do not focus on the bad parts of life. They have learned that if your content to wallow in the doom and gloom that surrounds you, you won't enjoy anything, and you certainly won't make it very far, if you make it all. A life may be consumed by suffering, but some people decide that keeping their chin up, and enjoying every good moment as best they can is the way to go. Some of the happiest people I've known have lead lives full of pain, suffering, and death. Suffering is a part of life, you either deal with it, or you don't. Picking life over death, or vice versa, isn't a choice that falls in just anybody's lap. That choice belongs to the individual and no one else. You don't know what's right and wrong for everyone on this earth poseyjmac, and prancing around with this "I am smarter than god" attitude you have makes you like a total ass with some serious delusions of grandeur.

do you know any starving children in africa? if you don't know of anyone that truly has it bad in this life, you have no right to say anything. people that live in crappy apartments that eat ramen noodles every meal have it like a KING compared to many people suffering in 3rd world countries.

and yes its hard to not act humble when i say i am smarter than god. but anyone can be. all they have to realize is that assuming the bible is true, if at the beginning of time they chose to not make humans, they would be doing them a favor. despite my attitude. i make the best of my life, and i seek the real truth. thats all i really can do right now.
 
but don't let my belief get you worked up. the odds of me being in a position to do that are very low. see i dont want you to worry, i dont want you to suffer. be as happy as you can, this is just a thread, if you get worked up over it, don't post for your own sake. :)
 
If I were god, I'd be rich.

edit: dude that was like a quadruple post.
 
FTW isn't exactly "free" as it is another word.

poseyjmac, do you live in an african village full of starving children? if so, why don't you kill the lot of em. it'll fix a lot of things and ease their suffering, right? go grant eternal sleep to yourself, all the misfortunate, and people who agree with you, but so far all you've done was make the possibly stupidest point in the entire forums history, and even then you didn't even really make it.

have you died a lot before? how do you know death isn't eternal pain? argh. the stupidity of your whole argument is making my sleep deprived head hurt. ease your own suffering and make yourself stop worrying about other peoples and grant yourself eternal sleep, that would be more logical, no?
 
CyberSh33p said:
FTW isn't exactly "free" as it is another word.

poseyjmac, do you live in an african village full of starving children? if so, why don't you kill the lot of em. it'll fix a lot of things and ease their suffering, right? go grant eternal sleep to yourself, all the misfortunate, and people who agree with you, but so far all you've done was make the possibly stupidest point in the entire forums history, and even then you didn't even really make it.

have you died a lot before? how do you know death isn't eternal pain? argh. the stupidity of your whole argument is making my sleep deprived head hurt. ease your own suffering and make yourself stop worrying about other peoples and grant yourself eternal sleep, that would be more logical, no?

how do you know death IS eternal pain? no proof either way really. im not suffering or worrying if you've been paying attention. i think you and others here are worrying more than I am! with that said, don't worry, be happy.
 
poseyjmac said:
do you know any starving children in Africa? if you don't know of anyone that truly has it bad in this life, you have no right to say anything. people that live in crappy apartments that eat ramen noodles every meal have it like a KING compared to many people suffering in 3rd world countries.

Can't say I know any starving children in Africa, but I have known a man who have lost his entire family in the blink of an (a father and a husband who lost his children and wife in a car accident). I've known people without families or homes, without friends. People who lived from day to day without knowing if their next meal might come from the garbage of someone else. I've known people from backgrounds of intense poverty in third world countries. I've known men who have made it out of the fabled Iraqi prison/torture camps after being thrown into them for years at a time (my friends father interviewed these men as part of his work, and I was lucky enough to meet them afterwards). I've known people who have gone through some real suffering. I see suffering on a very real level every day, at my grandmother house. She can't get out of bed. She has lung cancer, emphysema, and bipolar disorder. She has trouble remembering the names of her grandchildren, or even that of her husband, and ever since my cousin Shannon was killed in a car accident (about a month ago) she's been prone to some real fits of depression. The woman can hardly lift her own limbs without help from someone else. She cannot breathe without oxygen, she has to take god knows how many pills to keep herself alive. Still she, and all those other people I mentioned, found, and continue to find, ways to enjoy life, even if it's just the little things. Even in the pits of despair (and I do mean the pits of it) they clung on to life.

poseyjmac said:
and yes its hard to not act humble when i say i am smarter than god. but anyone can be. all they have to realize is that assuming the bible is true, if at the beginning of time they chose to not make humans, they would be doing them a favor. despite my attitude. i make the best of my life, and i seek the real truth. thats all i really can do right now.

If you're seeking "the real truth", perhaps you should listen to what I and others have to say. Life and suffering go hand in hand. Suffering has its own purpose, whether you like it or not. It's the dark moments in our own lives, the suffering, that give us cause to care about the plight of others. We cannot have compassion for others if we can't relate to them in all possible ways. Suffering is crucial to becoming a human being.

Also, once again you are pretending to have some sort of inside connection with god or some other higher being; some sort of access to the thoughts and feelings of every person on the face of the planet. Who are you to decide what would be good for the entire human race? How do you know how people feel about life and suffering? If people want death, they need only to extend their hand and grab it. If what you are saying is true, wouldn't humanity be swinging from the rafters by now?

Finally, I think that if you honestly cared about helping the starving children in Africa you'd do something to improve their lives, rather than stripping them of all life and any chance for happiness.
 
qckbeam said:
Can't say I know any starving children in Africa, but I have known a man who have lost his entire family in the blink of an (a father and a husband who lost his children and wife in a car accident). I've known people without families or homes, without friends. People who lived from day to day without knowing if their next meal might come from the garbage of someone else. I've known people from backgrounds of intense poverty in third world countries. I've known men who have made it out of the fabled Iraqi prison/torture camps after being thrown into them for years at a time (my friends father interviewed these men as part of his work, and I was lucky enough to meet them afterwards). I've known people who have gone through some real suffering. I see suffering on a very real level every day, at my grandmother house. She can't get out of bed. She has lung cancer, emphysema, and bipolar disorder. She has trouble remembering the names of her grandchildren, or even that of her husband, and ever since my cousin Shannon was killed in a car accident (about a month ago) she's been prone to some real fits of depression. The woman can hardly lift her own limbs without help from someone else. She cannot breathe without oxygen, she has to take god knows how many pills to keep herself alive. Still she, and all those other people I mentioned, found, and continue to find, ways to enjoy life, even if it's just the little things. Even in the pits of despair (and I do mean the pits of it) they clung on to life.

alright. and in my life i have nothing like those experiences. that is pretty intense. still though i don't have to experience it secondhand to know how bad it is. if i did, i wouldn't be so compassionate to suffering people.



qckbeam said:
If you're seeking "the real truth", perhaps you should listen to what I and others have to say. Life and suffering go hand in hand. Suffering has its own purpose, whether you like it or not. It's the dark moments in our own lives, the suffering, that give us cause to care about the plight of others. We cannot have compassion for others if we can't relate to them in all possible ways. Suffering is crucial to becoming a human being.

whats the purpose for a jew to suffer and die in a death camp? Suffering is crucial because people think it can't be avoided, so its embraced. why don't you tell suffering is important to the children starving to death in africa?

qckbeam said:
Also, once again you are pretending to have some sort of inside connection with god or some other higher being; some sort of access to the thoughts and feelings of every person on the face of the planet. Who are you to decide what would be good for the entire human race? How do you know how people feel about life and suffering? .

you misunderstand me. i know how most people think, they think similar to you. and i know they don't agree with me. thats a given.

qckbeam said:
If people want death, they need only to extend their hand and grab it. If what you are saying is true, wouldn't humanity be swinging from the rafters by now?.

alright now you're getting to an important part.. it doesn't matter if what i say is true, the human, like any animal has an illogical desire to survive and multiply, which is why all humans could never go through with it, EVEN if they did believe it. humans are smart, but they ultimately aren't strong enough to put the most important piece of knowledge into action.


qckbeam said:
Finally, I think that if you honestly cared about helping the starving children in Africa you'd do something to improve their lives, rather than striping them of all life and any chance for happiness.

ooh, why did you go there? i can send that telegram right back to you and say if you aren't a bad person, you would help these starving kids. but if you don't your a bad person. anyway, once my plans fall into place, im going to help a lot of people with financial aid. no doubt about that.
 
poseyjmac said:
alright. and in my life i have nothing like those experiences. that is pretty intense. still though i don't have to experience it secondhand to know how bad it is. if i did, i wouldn't be so compassionate to suffering people.

Ok, I'm glad to see you have compassion towards those who suffer. I know too many who have never really suffered in life, and they way they behave towards the suffering of others literally sickens me. It's your answer to suffering that I don't agree with.

poseyjmac said:
whats the purpose for a jew to suffer and die in a death camp? Suffering is crucial because people think it can't be avoided, so its embraced. why don't you tell suffering is important to the children starving to death in africa?

I don't know, I couldn't tell you what purpose could be served by the suffering and death of a Jew in Nazi Germany. I can't tell you what exact purpose a childs starving to death in Africa serves. All I can tell you is that in my life, I've been lucky to meet many different people, who've taken many different roads, and I have seen that the ones who suffered the most, were also the most human. The ones who have never felt true pain, were more akin to monsters than anything. While I don't like suffering, I acknowledge it's role, and accept it.


poseyjmac said:
you misunderstand me. i know how most people think, they think similar to you. and i know they don't agree with me. thats a given.

If you know most people don't agree with you, then why would you harbor the belief that nuking the world and sending the population of the earth into an eternal sleep would be the right thing to do? Why should you be the one to make such a decision? Like I've said before, if people are tired of suffering, they can take matters into their own hands. Humanity doesn't need you running the show.


poseyjmac said:
alright now you're getting to an important part.. it doesn't matter if what i say is true, the human, like any animal has an illogical desire to survive and multiply, which is why all humans could never go through with it, EVEN if they did believe it. humans are smart, but they ultimately aren't strong enough to put the most important piece of knowledge into action.

They aren't strong enough to put the most important piece of knowledge into action? Which one is that exactly? The little gem of logical fallacy you are trying to pass off like a divine revelation in this thread? What you have said so far is totally illogical. Humans continue to move forward with hope for a brighter future; perhaps not for themselves, but for their children, or future generations beyond even that. Humans don't destroy themselves, because that would bring the chance for any future at all down to about 0%.
I really don't get what you're saying about this illogical survival instinct that humans cannot break. First of all, it isn't illogical. You can't do much good if you're dead, can you? Also, people do as a matter of fact, end their own lives if they feel they cannot continue in this world any longer. As a collective, it would not make any sense to squash what little bit of hope we may have left for the future by taking part in a total suicide. To be honest, your answer to lifes problems seems to be "Lets just nuke the world and be done with it". That sort of answer stems from a fundamental flaw present in all humans, laziness.



poseyjmac said:
ooh, why did you go there? i can send that telegram right back to you and say if you aren't a bad person, you would help these starving kids. but if you don't your a bad person. anyway, once my plans fall into place, im going to help a lot of people with financial aid. no doubt about that.

Well, I wasn't insulting you. I was merely suggesting that perhaps instead of taking this "nuke the world" approach and ending all life to solve the problems that come along with it, you could focus your efforts on improving the lives of those who suffer. Also, how do you know I don't do what I can to help those who suffer?
I'm glad to hear you plan to provide financial aid to those who need it. That's a wonderful thing to do.
 
Wow....may I ask why would you want to kill everyone?Here you know what...Tell me where you live and I'll end your suffering for you.You say death is better than this suffering in the world right now.Then just go kill yourself or move on.Posey you lost the debate so just shut the hell up...

Edit: Oh and yes I am insulting you...
 
Tr0n said:
Wow....may I ask why would you want to kill everyone?Here you know what...Tell me where you live and I'll end your suffering for you.You say death is better than this suffering in the world right now.Then just go kill yourself or move on.Posey you lost the debate so just shut the hell up...

Edit: Oh and yes I am insulting you...
there wasn't really anything to lose or win, this whole thread is a big pathetic joke.
SLEEP
 
CyberSh33p said:
there wasn't really anything to lose or win, this whole thread is a big pathetic joke.
SLEEP
Oh....attack imu's!!!

:imu: :imu: :imu:
:imu: :imu: :imu:
:imu: :imu: :imu:
 
Tr0n said:
Wow....may I ask why would you want to kill everyone?Here you know what...Tell me where you live and I'll end your suffering for you.You say death is better than this suffering in the world right now.Then just go kill yourself or move on.Posey you lost the debate so just shut the hell up...

Edit: Oh and yes I am insulting you...

thanks for clearing that up, itll make your banning much easier.

i want everyone not to suffer anymore. its not that I want to kill everyone for the sake of killing them.

if you were paying attention, you'd know that im not suffering at all. whats comical is you are suffering more by being angry than I am because im composed and content.

if you want we can meet and you can try and end my life while i try and end yours. sound like a plan?
 
CyberSh33p said:
there wasn't really anything to lose or win, this whole thread is a big pathetic joke.
SLEEP

then leave. and suffer no more :rolling:
 
poseyjmac said:
thanks for clearing that up, itll make your banning much easier.

i want everyone not to suffer anymore. its not that I want to kill everyone for the sake of killing them.

if you were paying attention, you'd know that im not suffering at all. whats comical is you are suffering more by being angry than I am because im composed and content.

if you want we can meet and you can try and end my life while i try and end yours. sound like a plan?
K...How ya wanna do it?Fast?Slow?Any weapons?Pills?

Oh I wasn't angry at all....I was actually happy from laughing at you. :thumbs:
 
haha, right. your post has been immortalized, it reaks of anger and resentment. turn that frown upside down, man, you'll live longer. ;)
 
poseyjmac said:
haha, right. your post has been immortalized, it reaks of anger and resentment. turn that frown upside down, man, you'll live longer. ;)
Anger no...resentment yes.
 
well as yoda says, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering ;)
 
poseyjmac said:
well as yoda says, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering ;)
Anymore Star Wars quotes?Maybe they might change all our lives and stop all the suffering.
 
i wouldn't count on it. anyway, unless someones going to post something of substance, im going to take a break from this thread.
 
if you were given the choice to make world peace would you?

It'd have to be something very persuasive otherwise, "I aint touchin' a single red button!" :D

what if it meant that the entire human race had to be wiped out including yourself?

You know, thats just stupid. How would you know world peace? I mean, you'd be dead. Quite. Decaying. But the rest of the worlds life would continue.

...thats not to say an Asteroid lands on earth with an Alien Species that ****s the Planets "home grown" creations right to the bottom of dispair and insanity...

no more suffering, no more murder, no more evil. would you do it? if you did, you would be smarter than god.

Of course your commenting on a Human cognition. Murder, Suffering, Evil--all bound to men by the morales we assign ourselves. How would I also be smarter than God, if im dead and cannot remark a speck of intelligence?

I just call that "spec-ial betrayal".

In Nature, they're exists many kinds of evil, murder, and suffering. Evident or not, the Human race is not the first to cause such.

because heres the thing, if god exists, he is not benevolent, but cruel. look at all the suffering, torture, evil that has happened in the last 10000 years. god could have prevented all that if he simply didn't create humans.

Did you ever stop once to think he's trying to get us ready for what we might not understand? Death? ...the Afterlife?

0 suffering. is 1 unit of pleasure worth it to counteract 1 unit of suffering? regardless, the amount of suffering that has gone on far outweighs the amount of pleasure. if god was omniscient he would know that in the beginning, so why would he go through with it? this proves that even if god does exist, he isn't someone you want to be friends with. I am smarter than god, because i would have chosen not to let all of you suffer, and let you have eternal sleep.

...Ooo, <soft-mormon voice spelt over with sarcasm sounding like Strongsad> ...and let you have eternal sleep...

You mean, you'd kill us--so you could be alone?

Great cognitive ability! How about instead of killing us, you help us find out what even made us, "us". :D
 
poseyjmac said:
if you were given the choice to make world peace would you?

what if it meant that the entire human race had to be wiped out including yourself? no more suffering, no more murder, no more evil. would you do it? if you did, you would be smarter than god.

How can you have world peace without a world?

because heres the thing, if god exists, he is not benevolent, but cruel. look at all the suffering, torture, evil that has happened in the last 10000 years. god could have prevented all that if he simply didn't create humans.

God is innocent. Every miserable event on this planet has been caused by humans. It's our collective fault.
 
Of course you guys wont agree you dont want to die do you? Its simple, the world would be a much better place if we were not here hindering it, if more then 10% of the world either helped or refused to hinder the world then fine but that is not the case since most people dont give a damn about the world so therefore why should they be allowed to ruin it. Of course this only works on a certain level, I suppose the only way is to start convincing people to help out: socially and enviromentally. But you just know people wont listen or wont bother people want comfort and luxery for themselves rather then help out others. Selfish human beings, they have no right. Which is why people like me and poseyjmac come to the conclusion of wiping the earth of all human beings. If you feel that we have a right to live on the earth, PROVE IT show us what you can do
 
There is no reason to wipe out the human race. The changing conditions of the universe will do it for us not too long from now... well, in the scheme of the universe, it won't be too long at all.

My advice: don't think too much about all this stuff. Pain means nothing, pleasure means nothing... we mean nothing. This planet is totally worthless in the blind eyes of the universe. We are just animated blobs of matter, colliding and reacting with each other, many fighting and disagreeing, some bonding and loving... When we are gone, there will be nothing left to mourn our passing. It will never matter that we were here. There will be no trace of us left. Everything that happens in your life is insignificant, regardless of how monumental it feels to you. All of those special or tragic moments that have made up who you are will be lost in time... Enjoy the pleasures our humanity grants us while you can... because in reality, the only thing that awaits us all is an eternity of dreamless slumber...
 
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