Would you eat vat meat?

[Letters]

Whatever. Hands up if you know where your meat comes from anyway. If it tastes the part, it's going in my mouth.

Couldn't have said it better myself! I guess that would make this type more preferable for the aminals!

 

[Krynn72]

I would not only eat it, I would go give all the scientists who made it possible a huge hug. It sounds like an awesome idea.

 

[Cheomesh]

This is the kind of thing that will allow us to take steps to prevent the massive food shortage. It may be weird to you, but it may also be completely necessary in order to sustain our population.

Global population trends show them going DOWN much faster in the near future...

 

[MJ12]

and one can simply cut off a piece of it when you need meat

huh, sounds a lot like the man I keep alive in my basement, Joeby. Big fat man I just keep hog tied to a hook on the wall, cut a slice off when I am hungry. He's been around for about 6 years now.

Yeah I'd say it's a pretty good idea.


:|

 

[taviow]

...can I have some?

 

[Llama]

Vat meat sounds ****ing uber.

 

[Naudian]

I'm on the "Yes" side but the idea is still really weird. I guess I would have to try it first.

 

[jondy]

'Vat meat' is a pretty unfortunate phrase. Anyway, f*ck yeah, all of the cow, none of the... cow.

 

[99.vikram]

Yes. I've had it with the GM paranoia and anti-meat BS.

 

[jverne]

Science has completely raped the food industry unfortunately. So much stuff that comes from technological advances in the food part of the world.

I mean sure, we can boost crop yields, increase nutrition and stuff potentially... but from what I've seen most of the advances when it comes to food has been almost completely for the negative. Our food is moving away from the natural, into the unnatural and processed and this actually has profound negative effects on the human body.

I would only support this if it is gone about in a way that is completely different than everything else the industry has done.

But chances are you're going to find this meat that is far away from the natural thing as you can possibly get. Injected with things, chemicals used in the process. All the sorts of retarded shit that is done to our food to not only preserve color appearance and smell, but also to improve taste.

Science is like... a huge letdown for me when it comes to food. We've used our advances so carelessly and thoughtlessly and it's become a monster of a beast that we'd be lucky if we can kill.

you are referring to commercialization of food, where the producers fill every kind of shit in so that it looks pretty.

science has not that much to do with this.

i support vats IF the meat retains most of it's natural nutrients and minerals.

 

[Jintor]

I have no idea where the hell my meat actually comes from, so it probably wouldn't make any difference to me.

 

[15357]

I have no idea where the hell my meat actually comes from, so it probably wouldn't make any difference to me.

Agreed.

 

[Cheomesh]

Science has completely raped the food industry unfortunately. So much stuff that comes from technological advances in the food part of the world.

I mean sure, we can boost crop yields, increase nutrition and stuff potentially... but from what I've seen most of the advances when it comes to food has been almost completely for the negative. Our food is moving away from the natural, into the unnatural and processed and this actually has profound negative effects on the human body.

I would only support this if it is gone about in a way that is completely different than everything else the industry has done.

But chances are you're going to find this meat that is far away from the natural thing as you can possibly get. Injected with things, chemicals used in the process. All the sorts of retarded shit that is done to our food to not only preserve color appearance and smell, but also to improve taste.

Science is like... a huge letdown for me when it comes to food. We've used our advances so carelessly and thoughtlessly and it's become a monster of a beast that we'd be lucky if we can kill.

Sadly, those of us who want to be conservative with scientific advances are often mocked, or outright attacked, for standing in the way of progress.

 

[99.vikram]

Sadly, those of us who want to be conservative with scientific advances are often mocked, or outright attacked, for standing in the way of progress.

I wouldn't mind vegetarians, organic food consumers or anti-GM people if they didn't insist on "educating" me about their causes.

 

[Eejit]

Sadly, those of us who want to be conservative with scientific advances are often mocked, or outright attacked, for standing in the way of progress.

Meh, chemical preservative are a bit shit, but people objecting to GM actually don't know what they're talking about.

 

[phantomdesign]

'Vat meat' is a pretty unfortunate phrase. Anyway, f*ck yeah, all of the cow, none of the... cow.

I prefer "synthetic meat"

 

[Raziaar]

you are referring to commercialization of food, where the producers fill every kind of shit in so that it looks pretty.

science has not that much to do with this.

i support vats IF the meat retains most of it's natural nutrients and minerals.

It has everything to do with scientific advancements when it comes to food preparation and food preservation. The scientific understanding of food has progressed, when it comes to composition, being able to modify it and other things.

It's not just about commercialization. We had to make quite spectacular advances in our understanding of food at a more base level to perform any of the things we see today in our modern food.

Science isn't to blame... since it's just a tool. But the way people have used it for our commercialization has really ****ed our food over. I don't feel there have been very many truly, truly beneficial results from the tampering of our food. It's all been gone about in the wrong way.

 

[[Matt]]

I prefer "synthetic meat"

makes it sound too much like Tofu or quorn

 

[Tyguy]

id rather their process kept the animals in an unconscious state, which Im not sure is possible for orper meat....basically id be in favor of any method that retains the same meat quality yet drastically reduces the amount of suffering.

 

[CptStern]

I would rather eat meat from an animal that's had a decent life beforehand such as free range or organic meat as it tends to taste better that intensely farmed animal produce (which i advise everyone to star clear of due to cruelty issues). I guarantee vat produced meat will taste dire in comparison to free range organic meat and the very idea seems perverse when compared to the idea of a farm animal that's been free to roam outdoors.

I just dont think that's sustainable for masses ..not enough farm land, practically no incentive for big business etc ..I think we have to fundamentally change the way we eat meat ..for north americans meat is often the main componet of the meal whereas in other parts of the world, meat is a small part of the meal

I also believe you should only eat meat if you're prepared to kill the type of animal you wish to consume. I Eat plenty of chicken and fish and have killed both myself before preparing and consuming them. Anyone who eats meat but is disgusted at the idea of killing an animal is in my eyes a ****ing hypocrite.

couldnt agree more


tyguy: suffering is not even remotely a concern; maximising profit is ..I mean you dont think of pain management strategies when this is the living conditions of an animal under your care:

that's their reality day in and day out

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Science has completely raped the food industry unfortunately. So much stuff that comes from technological advances in the food part of the world.

I mean sure, we can boost crop yields, increase nutrition and stuff potentially... but from what I've seen most of the advances when it comes to food has been almost completely for the negative. Our food is moving away from the natural, into the unnatural and processed and this actually has profound negative effects on the human body.

I would only support this if it is gone about in a way that is completely different than everything else the industry has done.

But chances are you're going to find this meat that is far away from the natural thing as you can possibly get. Injected with things, chemicals used in the process. All the sorts of retarded shit that is done to our food to not only preserve color appearance and smell, but also to improve taste.

Science is like... a huge letdown for me when it comes to food. We've used our advances so carelessly and thoughtlessly and it's become a monster of a beast that we'd be lucky if we can kill.

...Science has had huge benefits in the food industry. We can have food not go off after storing it for a day. We no longer have to roll stuff in salt to stop it going off. We can grow huge amounts of food on areas that would produce little a few hundred years ago. We know that putting folic acid in bread helps a lot of people who are deficient in it. Without science in the food industry, poor countries would starve a hell of a lot more, and with the way GM foods are going, things like drought shouldn't be such a huge problem.

The huge population of the world is a testament to science in agriculture.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Gray Fox]

I mean it seriously who are the other 5 non meat eating fags here.
Look I get it if you don't want to be associated with me in public,
I know all the cool kids are going to mess with you.
But just Pm me or something.

 

[CptStern]

I'm a non meat eating fag, and proud of it

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I'm a meat eater, but if I could get my fix in such a convenient way, I'd pick it over actual meat.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Raziaar]

...Science has had huge benefits in the food industry. We can have food not go off after storing it for a day. We no longer have to roll stuff in salt to stop it going off. We can grow huge amounts of food on areas that would produce little a few hundred years ago. We know that putting folic acid in bread helps a lot of people who are deficient in it. Without science in the food industry, poor countries would starve a hell of a lot more, and with the way GM foods are going, things like drought shouldn't be such a huge problem.

The huge population of the world is a testament to science in agriculture.

-Angry Lawyer

I already mentioned things like greater crop yields and such that are beneficial. But there's an overwhelming majority of things that we're doing to completely rape the nutrition and quality of our food, often so much so that most things off the shelves today are greatly artificial in makeup... and things our bodies tolerate as if they were toxins.

We no longer have to roll stuff in salt to stop it going off.

The funny thing is... we're still using arguably just as much salt. Instead of using it to prolong shelf life, we're using it to enhance flavor and it's a great contributor to heart disease and elevated blood pressure when you get your daily requirement of salt in a single serving of a meal. That's one of the things I'm talking about...

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Most stuff about what we eat these days being artificial and toxic are scare stories spread by media "nutritionists", who want to peddle vitamin pills.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[DreamThrall]

I thought the title was a typo and was asking if we would eat cat meat... but yes. To both questions!

 

[Raziaar]

Most stuff about what we eat these days being artificial and toxic are scare stories spread by media "nutritionists", who want to peddle vitamin pills.

-Angry Lawyer

No... dude, it has nothing to do with that. Maybe your processed foods in Britain aren't as bad as here in the states... but take one look at a canned food object. Any item that doesn't inexplicably say salt free(which often cost more by the way). They have loads and loads of salt per serving... Many items can reach 1000mg of sodium or more easily in a small quanity. Even something as mundane as canned vegetables.

There's also the problem of all the other chemicals that are known to inhibit good health, such as monosodium glutamate and apartame... high fructose corn syrup and more.

This stuff isn't coming from anybody trying to sell pills. Geez. It's coming from scientific research that shows excessive consumption, or even just consumption can lead to adverse health effects.

 

[Baserape>]

If it's hairy, crispy, juicy and still breathing i'll eat it. That's right I'll eat it. just eat it.

:farmer:

 

[Angry Lawyer]

...then don't buy canned food? Generally, you get what you pay for - it's not science's fault that certain companies are happy to stick crap in their products.

Monosodium Glutamate is recognised as a safe additive, although some people are sensitive to it. It also occurs naturally in food, just like sodium chloride. Both are bad in large quantities.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Raziaar]

...then don't buy canned food? Generally, you get what you pay for - it's not science's fault that certain companies are happy to stick crap in their products.

Monosodium Glutamate is recognised as a safe additive, although some people are sensitive to it. It also occurs naturally in food, just like sodium chloride. Both are bad in large quantities.

-Angry Lawyer

Did I not say that it's the companies that are using technological advancements irresponsibly? Science obviously can't be blamed... just the careless use of it.

And it's kind of hard to always buy healthy when we're living in a society with the plague of stores like walmart and others slowly creeping across the landscape, and carrying predominantly foods that are heavily processed and full of shit. When the numbers of farmers markets and stuff dwindle down and the distances become greater and greater to travel to actually buy that healthier food.

It's not just a matter of "don't walk down the snack aisle". It's creeping into all of our food.

Anyways, back to vat meat.

 

[CptStern]

I thought the title was a typo and was asking if we would eat cat meat... but yes. To both questions!

good for you:

oh wait, pig is off the menu, if I remember correctly

 

[Raziaar]

Cats and pigs both make great pets and food.

I'm fattening my cat up(if only... she won't hardly eat anything! Maybe she's on to me) so I can enjoy her tasty roasted flesh.

 

[Ravioli]

yes...why not? Its meat...simple as that. I want my damn hamburger...bitch

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Did I not say that it's the companies that are using technological advancements irresponsibly? Science obviously can't be blamed... just the careless use of it.

And it's kind of hard to always buy healthy when we're living in a society with the plague of stores like walmart and others slowly creeping across the landscape, and carrying predominantly foods that are heavily processed and full of shit. When the numbers of farmers markets and stuff dwindle down and the distances become greater and greater to travel to actually buy that healthier food.

It's not just a matter of "don't walk down the snack aisle". It's creeping into all of our food.

Anyways, back to vat meat.

Which is why, at least in the UK, you get the nutritional information labels. And you can buy fresh(ish) produce from supermarkets here.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Seppo]

i don't eat

 

[Llama]

I'd eat your meat, Tony :naughty:

TBH the idea that I could have my own factory and just GROW Stake fresh is stupidly awesome.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Bow-chicka-bow-wow.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Raziaar]

Which is why, at least in the UK, you get the nutritional information labels. And you can buy fresh(ish) produce from supermarkets here.

-Angry Lawyer

Yeah... we have nutritional information labels too. The only problem is most of the food nutrition is the same. Shit.

And yeah, we can get fresh produce here. It's just a matter of finding the diamond in the rough amongst the rest of the refuse.

To get really fresh and healthy looking produce, I have to drive quite a ways to a health food store called Whole Foods Market. Their produce looks absolutely spectacular.

It's like looking at and comparing a vivid, spectacular watercolor painting to a low quality black & white photo copy. The colors are more vibrant, the produce looks a lot more healthy and lively. There isn't generally a 6 inch thick shell of pesticides on the surface and beneath the surface.

TBH the idea that I could have my own factory and just GROW Stake fresh is stupidly awesome.

Stake. When you want the tough stuff.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

True. In the UK, everyone went mad and got GM foods marginalized here, because of our shitty tabloids making them out to be poisonous. We'd have the ability to use less pesticides if we GMed our food to be more pest-resistant.

-Angry Lawyer