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The first and most significant change is that in the near future, anyone posting or replying to a post on official Blizzard forums will be doing so using their Real ID -- that is, their real-life first and last name -- with the option to also display the name of their primary in-game character alongside it. These changes will go into effect on all StarCraft II forums with the launch of the new community site prior to the July 27 release of the game, with the World of Warcraft site and forums following suit near the launch of Cataclysm. Certain classic forums, including the classic Battle.net forums, will remain unchange

hahaha. only blizzard would have the stones to do this ..also the ability to pull it off due to their unprecedented number of fanboys/yesmen that follow their every move

http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1
 
The amount of rage in that thread is amusing, especially from the obvious trolls of the forum. I don't understand what the big deal is, I for one wouldn't have a problem using my first/last name and I'm sure it'll clean up the forum a lot, when certain dickish members refuse to post.

I noticed someone said that some countries won't allow it and it would practically be making their forums an 18+ only board, is that true? Would it really stop people in certain parts of the world from accessing it?
 
There is always a work around though. People with the name Johnny McDickDick will always sneak their way in
 
I don't understand what the big deal is, I for one wouldn't have a problem using my first/last name


that might be ok if your name is John Smith but if it's unique like say Baron Von Alchemy Beirenbaumhasslehoff that might pose a problem
 
that might be ok if your name is John Smith but if it's unique like say Baron Von Alchemy Beirenbaumhasslehoff that might pose a problem

If I had a name like that, I'd WANT people to see how awesome it is!
 
That shit is really out of bounds. I shouldn't have to divulge my full, real name to anybody except their billing services. That is my information to give out and not something I'm all too eager to do after just having my account hacked and taken from me.

The upside is that it may make conduct on their boards a little more civil than it usually is now and cut back on troll alts and that crap. All in all it's a dumb move though. Blizzard is fortunate they can brute force these kinds of changes with WoW's weight.

ADDED: This is a quote that's getting thrown around a lot on the US forums. Just three hours from the announcement and 120+ pages. :O

I'm sure this will get lost in the shuffle of an insane number of replies, but in case the moderators actually get this far, here goes.

I am an executive in my company (CIO), and I work hard to maintain a professional online persona. I am very visible on Twitter, in blogs, on Facebook, LinkedIn, and Google Buzz.

Just imagine how it would impact my persona for my peers (who may meet me at conferences or professional gatherings) to search for my name on the internet and find a few dozen World of Warcraft posts.

Here are your arguments:

"You don't have to post in the forums." Sure, but don't you WANT people like me (well-spoken and mature) to provide feedback and participate in the community? Do you really only want to hear from the young people and others without concerns about their online reputation?

"Google won't index the forums." While a robots.txt file and login may prevent Google from indexing the site, it absolutely does not prevent others from indexing this data and it getting out on the internet. If Ashton Kutcher posted with his Real ID, you think TMZ couldn't find it? I am exaggerating, but don't insult my intelligence by suggesting security by obfuscation is real security.

Security of personal data is your responsibility Blizzard. It is your conscientious duty to protect your customer in a situation where they may not understand the impact of their actions.

If your intentions are deeper than decreasing the costs of maintaining your forums (and they probably are), you also owe us the courtesy of explaining your long term plans for using our personal information.

From your customers' perspective, this is foolhardy and insulting. We are extremely worried about your carefree attitude toward our privacy. You still have time to make this right. We are at your mercy; please don't let us down.

Sincerely,

A CIO with 5 Level 80s.
 
I wonder if Gabe is on WoW forums.
 
If Blizzard is really going to implement this, I would much prefer if they just allowed you to click on someone's character in a post and see all the other characters associated with the account. Exposing people's real names is a pretty harsh privacy breach.
 
Shit I can't post on those forums anymore because I'm on the witness protection programme. THANKS BLIZZARD.
 
People not posting because of this is better than mobs of trolls in the WoW forums IMO.
 
Oof. There goes another of the internet's great attributes: (relative) anonymity. That's ridiculous and I hope the forum dies and so does support for Activision/Blizzard because this shit just cannot be tolerated.
 
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Anyway, nothing negative will come of this for Blizzard, those who complain now will simply either leave the forums or adapt to the changes. I'd wager that the vast majority either don't care or agree that a persons name should be attached to what they post.
 
I for one wouldn't have a problem using my first/last name

I for one would, because when you Google my last name, only things about my direct family pops up, if Google is to believed my family has a world-unique last name.
 
Wow, what is wrong with you lately, Blizzard? Your success never got to your head this much in the past. Did making a million dollars by selling a dumb sparkle horse to idiots for $25 really entitle you to such an extent as to demand your paying customers (and you do have to be subscribed to post there) divulge their identity on what should be an anonymous forum? Be honest, did your mods just get tired of rooting out all the dregs? Are you not paying them enough to sit there and sift through thousands of rogues (or warlocks, or shamans) whining about how nerfed they are? Granted, the WoW forums are a joke most of the time, but doing something like this just to respond to the worst of your users is like... well, like taking chat out of your game because of spammers.

Please stop being dumb, Blizzard. Signed: some jerk with like 5 80s.
 
This is all just 2 steps away from ''does this washcloth smell like chloroform to you?'', as they raid your house now that they know exactly who you are and are more easily able to discover where you live, how many accounts you have and your mother's cat's maiden name.

Even with free services that you have to pay for later, its seriously scary what you find out about someone with just their name and the internet. Hell, you can even find the names of the person's parents and last known address.

This is getting out of hand. No matter what they do, we will find a way around it. So dont try.
 
I for one would, because when you Google my last name, only things about my direct family pops up, if Google is to believed my family has a world-unique last name.

That's understandable. I suppose I'm fine with it because if you Google my last name, it comes up with Andy Murray.
 
People made new characters to stop their own in-game name from being tainted by their trolling. Now that they bring in real names? Awesome.
 
People made new characters to stop their own in-game name from being tainted by their trolling. Now that they bring in real names? Awesome.
I agree, but what about the rest of us? My real name is pretty distinctive, I sure as **** don't want some mouthbreather finding my facebook page or something and harassing me, my friends and my relatives because I won a roll over him, or called him out for being a ninja on my realm forum, or whatever (if this sounds like an extreme example then you are obviously not aware of the exploits of some of 4chan or SA's less upstanding members). Is this small victory over the minority really worth disadvantaging the whole? These kind of tactics remind me of primary school teachers who would keep everyone after class because one slimy little **** wouldn't own up to drawing a dick on the chalkboard. It's juvenile, and everyone loses out in the end.

Like I said, the WoW boards are a den of filth much of the time, but does that make this a worthwhile move? Hell no.
 
Erotic Roleplayers are going to get owned LOL
 
The thread at their forums got over 17000 post of complaints within 24 hours, how can they not listen to their own userbase? This is the most retarded thing Blizzard has ever done. No one wants this, so why implement it??

Also, the mods are total douchefags, banning people for simply saying whats on their mind:

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Lol, nice credit score.

Sums it up pretty much.

This is the problem. The vast majority have to suffer for what the few have done, but you cant apply these new rules to individuals, so you apply it to everyone.

Its like car insurance. ''You're under 25? Right, you're GOING TO have a crash before you turn 25 according to statistics collected from Britain's criminals and chavs in the north who don't buy insurance so...I'll just uh, ignore that 5 years no-claims you have and your pass plus certificate...so your premium will be £1 billion''.
 
I agree, but what about the rest of us? My real name is pretty distinctive, I sure as **** don't want some mouthbreather finding my facebook page or something and harassing me, my friends and my relatives because I won a roll over him, or called him out for being a ninja on my realm forum, or whatever (if this sounds like an extreme example then you are obviously not aware of the exploits of some of 4chan or SA's less upstanding members). Is this small victory over the minority really worth disadvantaging the whole? These kind of tactics remind me of primary school teachers who would keep everyone after class because one slimy little **** wouldn't own up to drawing a dick on the chalkboard. It's juvenile, and everyone loses out in the end.

Like I said, the WoW boards are a den of filth much of the time, but does that make this a worthwhile move? Hell no.

You know their name, so I don't see a problem.
Also, if someone chases you outside the WoW forums about something petty like a roll or some opinion you hold, I don't think they have any association with account breaking tools, or testicles for that matter.. :/
 
It breaks my heart to see such suffering by people I consider family. I really do wish there were some other way.

-Mom, President of Blizzard.
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Meh. I don't care. Blizzard forums have been consistently worthless since the release of WoW. It's like walking in to a giant concert hall full of screaming children and trying to make a simple statement. Maybe this will stop that. Or maybe in a case like that of the CIO, it will keep the intelligent articulate people out of the fourms all together and relegate them to named screaming children.
 
Hey Danimal have you played WoW? You'd be interested in all the 'eye' symbolism.
 
This is actually kind of enlightening. If this is what they consider "spam" or "trolling," it's little wonder they'd go this far to prevent people from having ****ing opinions.

You know their name, so I don't see a problem.
Also, if someone chases you outside the WoW forums about something petty like a roll or some opinion you hold, I don't think they have any association with account breaking tools, or testicles for that matter.. :/
What?

Okay, first of all, no I don't know their name unless they post a reply to my accusations (taking the example of calling someone out for ninja looting or other such things, which happens a lot), which - if this system has it's desired result - they won't. Secondly, how does my knowing their name make this any less of a problem? What, now I can go harass them, too? When has that ever been a proper solution for anyone above the age of twelve? That's like telling me, "well it's not a problem if someone's coming to shoot you if you have a gun, too!"

No association? The fact that these people are already immature, dense, or just downright unstable doesn't change the fact that this system is basically arming those people by making others afraid to speak out against them. Yes, the stalking/killing thing is an extreme example, but I will remind you that it has happened before. I remember two such stories from off-topic threads alone.

Anyway, case in point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUOI7BTmmk0
 
What?

Okay, first of all, no I don't know their name unless they post a reply to my accusations (taking the example of calling someone out for ninja looting or other such things, which happens a lot), which - if this system has it's desired result - they won't. Secondly, how does my knowing their name make this any less of a problem? What, now I can go harass them, too? When has that ever been a proper solution for anyone above the age of twelve? That's like telling me, "well it's not a problem if someone's coming to shoot you if you have a gun, too!"

No association? The fact that these people are already immature, dense, or just downright unstable doesn't change the fact that this system is basically arming those people by making others afraid to speak out against them. Yes, the stalking/killing thing is an extreme example, but I will remind you that it has happened before. I remember two such stories from off-topic threads alone.

What are you worried about. If they harass you within the internet then you will be able to see their name (considering you mentioned facebook before). I can't think of any other way they can grab a hold of you without having to use some sort of identification, even an alias. And If you know this name/tag, then just report them to Blizzard or the other internet service they used to harass you with. There isn't much else in this, unless they take the harassment where they're anonymous, but you if can keep a lid on your other vitalpersonal details within the internet, this would never happen. Considering, it would have to be almost impossible for an average player to find your details only equip with a name.

For anything dire to happen would have to be an extreme, yes. But if you don't agree that Blizzard aren't liable for your safety in regards to publicly showing your name, then what makes you agree to their Terms and Agreements when signing into your Blizzard accounts.
 
True, but you do realise that it only takes one case. Just one case of someone getting screwed over as a result.

Blizzard would get sued so hard that even Activision's profit from MW2 would disappear.

Why put themselves in the firing line? ''Ahh it'll be fine.'' Im sure thats what the US troops thought on Omaha.
 
Something will happen before it's implemented I'm sure.
 
I'm always entertained by people who think that it is their right to have a game the way they want it. Like if Blizzard decides "hey we don't want you to be anonymous while posting on our forums," that their civil rights and liberties have been violated. They get all up in arms and say "how dare you not allow me to do entirely as I please... I pay you FIFTEEN DOLLARS A MONTH." As though their contribution is significant in some way. If every person who was really so pissed about this quit tomorrow, Blizzard would still have 11 million people playing. Most people who play don't even look at the forums unless something is broken. A fraction of them actually post anything at all.

I mean even if someone knows John Smith is posting this on WoW... what can they do with this information? Find the millions of John Smiths in the world and send them all angry letters? People just like to whine.
 
John Smith + WowCharacterName + RealmThePlayOn into Google can unearth a lot more than you'd expect.
 
Hahaha that's just terrible.

In before pissed-off WoW nerd hunts down and kills griefer/forum troll in real life.
 
Now that sociopathic player that you continuously ganked will have an easier time finding out where you live. I mean, really. How stupid is Blizzard? That stupidity must have seeped over from Activision, i guess.
This a lawsuit waiting to happen. I really have no interest in any of Blizzard's games but this is down right dangerous to the people that do.
 
Starcraft's boring anyway.

Yes, I would type that even if my real name was attached.

I think they'll go back on the change (just like they changed the D3 inventory back) because employers spying at what you're typing about Starcraft and at exactly what time isn't going to be great.
 
What are you worried about. If they harass you within the internet then you will be able to see their name (considering you mentioned facebook before). I can't think of any other way they can grab a hold of you without having to use some sort of identification, even an alias. And If you know this name/tag, then just report them to Blizzard or the other internet service they used to harass you with. There isn't much else in this, unless they take the harassment where they're anonymous, but you if can keep a lid on your other vitalpersonal details within the internet, this would never happen. Considering, it would have to be almost impossible for an average player to find your details only equip with a name.

For anything dire to happen would have to be an extreme, yes. But if you don't agree that Blizzard aren't liable for your safety in regards to publicly showing your name, then what makes you agree to their Terms and Agreements when signing into your Blizzard accounts.
Because no one has a name any more distinctive than "John Smith." Can you imagine if Moon Unit Zappa was trying to post there? Again, extreme example, but as people have already stated in this very thread, there most certainly exist names unique enough for them to be located with a simple Google search. Not to mention you're taking context completely out of the equation. What if someone is playing in a guild composed of members only from a certain area? What if they let trivial details about themselves slip on the forums that otherwise they wouldn't think twice about mentioning? There are so many other factors that could narrow down the search if someone wanted to discover your real identity enough, and if you think I'm grasping at straws here, you obviously aren't familiar with the level of internet detectivery sites like Something Awful employ on a regular basis (granted, usually to hilarious effect, but my point stands).

Beyond all this though, what are you even trying to prove by saying "well no one will find you anyway"? THEN WHY EVEN MAKE US USE OUR REAL NAMES?! If it's such an insignificant thing, then why is it necessary? What will it accomplish? Let me enlighten you: nothing.

Let's examine the facts here:

Your realid is your real first and last name.

Any post you submit to the boards (after the change, thankfully it's not retroactive) will contain your real name, like it or not.

You can, if you desire, choose to include the name of one of your characters under your real name.

See that last point there? Your character name is still optional. So, not only is this change completely over-the-top, it's also completely ****ing useless in that people can still retain some sense of anonymity if they want to. Who gives a shit if John Smith is griefing you if you can't even connect him to an in-game entity? This is such an immense oversight as to completely neuter the point of this change, and it only serves to highlight the route they should have taken, were they actually concerned about trolling or flame wars: make all of a poster's characters visible so he can't hide behind alts. Did they really need to bring real-world consequences into something so trivial and easily dealt with? No matter your opinion, the answer is an unequivocal no.
 
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