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to cite a popular example, i wonder how many people on thses forums actually *own* photoshop, as opposed to those who said "**** that" to the $100-$600 pricetag?

sarcasm! sarcasm! i said that you spoke with the conviction of someone whose reviewed the leaked material, not that i thought you had! "Again.. they worked on that stuff because it wasn't finished, not because of the leak. " thts what i was working with

ill concede, im a criminal of a certain degree. Not as guilty as those who initially stole the content from the valve networks (which i would have rather not happened), but if two wrongs can make a right, this is it. I and others are using this tragedy (the leak, which noone wanted to happen)...

you speak with the assertiveness that would imply you've reviewed the leaked material, and have drawn conclusons from it. But from what you have said I know that you have not. Valve hadnt even finished the storyline yet, what they had finished was clearly finished, and everything else was in the...

let me restate: "information obtained without warrent cannot be used in a court of law" and the only way they could do it without sanction would be to go though, say, the department of homeland security and bypass these laws via the PATIOT act --- which they'd never do since its a gross...

i agree with everything this delicious yogurty man has just said.

its also damned hard work, particularly for making blades, they have to be QUALITY, or they'll shatter.

information obtained illegally cannot be used as evidence in any court of law.

you'll just have to trust us when we say that the game is better off for the leak, valve forcing itself to work on it another year gives is a 98% in PC Gamer instead of an 89 or 90%, by my estimate. They improved alot and cut the fat where necessary. (lest we forget that hl1 was also delayed a...

good for you, since hl2world itself doesnt contain anything illegal, and all of us who had website have been kindly asked to cease and desist already (to which we tacitly complied, we understand their position), i suppose you'll find their reply unsatisfactory.

smoking a euphemism for buttsechs? jk, good show.

he who so brashly initiates the polls, shall not receive my vote.

nor do they seem to complain about the spray/material converters, shader parameters, custom maps, models, skins, scripts, and even menus that we've only been able to create through our knowledge gained from the leaked content. To say that we're immature theives in light of all this is sheer...

Madhatter, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that ive acquired valve's "recipie" for half life 2. That would be the source code, yes? I wouldnt touch that with a ten foot pole, the leak of the code is 10x more dangerous than the editing tools, material compiler, and some developer...

Aye, the roman shortsword that forged the greatest empire the ancient world ever saw: the Gladius. A well-balanced thrusting weapon, perfect for slipping between the ribs of an opposing army. You'd have to talk to smiths who specialize in sword making. I doubt its that hard to get one...

Except we arent compensated for the work we do with the beta. While you guys sit over here with your thumbs up your asses waxing moral superority and dreaming up new paternal connections between gordon/alyx/gman, we're actually producing something. Sure we do it with software obtained illegally...

Half Life 3 ;)

we havent censored www.halflife2.net for a long time, we took the first step toward mending this little rift.....but no response on hl2net's end. We continue to express our displeasure with how this is being handled and i believe most of us would rather have a friendly rivalry than a blood feud...

everything mentioned above that you would have downloaded to improve css was acquired from either hl2 world or the empiro forums..........mind you we hate empiro's guts because its a scary little warez cult who steal everyone else's work and refuse to give credit--but im sure you heard about...

Every custom skin, material, animated spray, or new map you guys so gleefully download was produced with the aid of either knowledge or tools we acquired or developed from the leak last year.....its a dirty job and you guys are glad you have someone else to pin moral responsibility on while...